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mrcoolguy818
08-03-2012, 2:32 PM
Hi I am new to this website so bear with with me. I wanted your opinion to which 22 lr bolt action rifle under $600 should I get. Like I said I am pretty new to the website as well as firearms so dont feel bad if you need to educate me. As of now I am looking at the Savage Mark II F.

donw
08-03-2012, 2:42 PM
CZ 452 (if you can find a good used one) or the newer 455 series

44fred
08-03-2012, 2:45 PM
Hey Cool, WELCOME!

List your city and someone will step up to the plate and help you out in person.
If you live in Bakersfield I'd help you.

You are going to get a boat load of opinions here (or any other forum) and will soon be overwhelmed with information.

What is your plan for the .22's use? Plinking fun, precision target, hunting etc.
I happen to have a 22 for sale well under your budget. Not a bolt action but a good gun. PM me if you like.

God bless, Fred

kakinuma-kun
08-03-2012, 2:46 PM
I have a CZ 452 and I'm very pleased with its quality, fit, and accuracy. It's also a fair deal in terms of price.

mrcoolguy818
08-03-2012, 2:57 PM
Hey Cool, WELCOME!

List your city and someone will step up to the plate and help you out in person.
If you live in Bakersfield I'd help you.

You are going to get a boat load of opinions here (or any other forum) and will soon be overwhelmed with information.

What is your plan for the .22's use? Plinking fun, precision target, hunting etc.
I happen to have a 22 for sale well under your budget. Not a bolt action but a good gun. PM me if you like.

God bless, Fred

Hey Fred, I am in Los Angeles but more specifically the San Fernando Valley.

I want the rifle for shooting at the range. Since I am new to firearms I want a small .22 before I step up to something bigger. My goal is to become skilled at target shooting. Thanks for the help!

AK all day
08-03-2012, 3:00 PM
You cannot go wrong with savage. If i was you, I would go for the FV in stainless, only because after owning my FV for a while, I wish I had gone with stainless...

Savage is great all around, you cant go wrong.

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t501/DillonJury/035.jpg

Chaos47
08-03-2012, 3:14 PM
CZ
Marlin XT line
Savage

defcon
08-03-2012, 3:26 PM
hey i work in woodland hills. i got my Marlin XT-22 .22LR bolt M200 Cheytac at Turners in Reseda for $220. they dont sell it anymore. i got the only one

the other one is a Ruger 10/22 M82A1

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7235/7147279497_1708b263eb_o.jpg

mkane
08-03-2012, 5:18 PM
Buy a CZ. Best bang for the buck out there.

brassburnz
08-03-2012, 7:02 PM
If you can find one, a Romanian 1969 .22 trainer is inexpensive and extremely accurate.


http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=UF101075904&uf=true&pdesc=Romanian_Model_1969_Rimfire_Rifle


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=291218949

capitol
08-03-2012, 7:27 PM
Its all about the CZ Rifles in your price range. The 452's are legendary and have been discontinued, but are still on the market.

To replace the the 452 CZ came out with the 455 and there a a few big differences. The 452 barrel is threaded in to the action while the 455 uses set screws. The 455 will allow barrel changes like 17hmr2 etc.

One other note. The American named rifles have the tapered barrel and weigh about 1 pound less the the Varmint version.

Oh and to confuse you even more there is a CZ453. Its the same as the 452 but has a set trigger.

If it were me I'd buy the 452. With that said, Lilja is now making barrels for the 455. That says something.

Clear as mud I know :D

Excaliburr
08-03-2012, 7:28 PM
cz then savage.

glockman19
08-03-2012, 7:49 PM
They are discontinued but if you can find a Marlin 981t it is a great tube fed bolt action rifle with decent adjustable iron sights. Best it shoots .22LR, .22 short, .22long, .22CB's.

I paid $150 at Turners a few years ago.

There are 2 available on gunbroker.com for $200 and less.

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=marlin+981t

Fjold
08-03-2012, 8:31 PM
I have the left handed CZ 452 and am very happy with it, accurate and one of the best looking 22 lr bolt guns made. The Ruger 77/22 is also a great looking rifle.

Jeepers
08-03-2012, 8:38 PM
does it have to be "new" ?

you can get some fine shooting old bolt actions for much less then your price range, unless you plan on compitition shooting most any bolt gun will out shoot you as a new shooter anyways .... just my 2 pennies ...

chingdaotze
08-03-2012, 8:48 PM
In that price range CZ 455 or 452. I've owned a Savage MkII BTVS, and currently own a 455 FS. Get a CZ. Then you won't have to lose money when you decide to sell your Savage and buy a CZ later :P

Jeepergeo
08-03-2012, 9:12 PM
Ditto on the CZ USA 452 or 455. Amazing guns for the money. Lots of discussion of these at rimfirecentral dot com.

covingtonhouse
08-03-2012, 9:32 PM
You didnt mention if you plan on shooting iron sigh ts or a scope.
I have a Savage mkII BV thats pretty accurate, and I havent had any problems with it. I havent had the opportunity to shoot the CZ line but I have handled them and they are very well made.
One thing to note is to try as many different ammo brands/types as each rifle has its own preference even among the same make/model of rifle. .22's are notorious for this. Typically standard velocity (1050-1120 fps) will be more accurate than high velocity (>1160 FPS) but not always. Have fun!!

capitol
08-03-2012, 9:37 PM
CZ :beatdeadhorse5:

mrcoolguy818
08-03-2012, 10:02 PM
Oh, sorry. I want it with a scope and preferably new.

I think I need to checkout turners! I might find a good deal there!

gunprofit
08-03-2012, 10:23 PM
I agree that the CZ is a good rifle. However, for a couple more bucks you can get a Anschutz. I own both and find myself shooting the Anschutz more than the CZ.

Fadedline
08-03-2012, 10:51 PM
CZ 452/455 American or Varmint. Good to go!

JNunez23
08-03-2012, 11:19 PM
Savage on the cheap end, CZ if you want to top out your budget. NO other options! lol

mrcoolguy818
08-03-2012, 11:26 PM
I am leaning toward getting a Savage Mark II and then later get an Anshutz.
Noob question. Do you need to register a .22 rifle? and do I also need to take a class? Sorry, Im new to firearms!

Chaos47
08-03-2012, 11:36 PM
I am leaning toward getting a Savage Mark II and then later get an Anshutz.
Noob question. Do you need to register a .22 rifle? and do I also need to take a class? Sorry, Im new to firearms!

In California all firearms purchased from an FFL01 (any retail store) the firearm will go thru the DROS processes. Private party transfers must be done at an FFL aswell. You will have to pay a fee for this and then wait 10 days to pick up your firearm. Durring the DROS you will have a background check done. Currently Rifles are not registered but there is a law that is not in effect yet that will change that.

No you do not need to take a class to purchase a rifle. But if you have no firearms experience that might not be a bad idea

Pistols on the other hand you will need a HSC Handgun Safety Card, pay the fee take the test and you get the card. Pistols are registered in CA

Coyotegunner
08-04-2012, 6:34 AM
I own several of the Ruger 77 rimfires in different calibers and will have them the rest of my life.I have a older Remington 581 that shoots shorts,CBs or LR that is great.I am also fond of my older Marlin.The Savage with the Accutrigger is also one of my favorites,although it is not as pretty.I would buy a Browning or CZ,if cash was available.Really all these have been good for me.

rkt88edmo
08-04-2012, 6:45 AM
I am leaning toward getting a Savage Mark II and then later get an Anshutz.
Noob question. Do you need to register a .22 rifle? and do I also need to take a class? Sorry, Im new to firearms!

The Savage is a fine gun. No registration needed. If you're new it will give you plenty of learning, nice setting your sights high on the anschutz, don't know that I'll ever shoot well enough to appreciate one of those in my own collection.

Taking a class is up to you, nothing required, but TRAINING and or competing will help you raise your skill level quickly.

mrcoolguy818
08-05-2012, 11:15 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I will go with the Savage Mark II for now and then step up to Anschutz once I improve. Also, are the scopes that come with the Savage rifle packages any good?

Do you recommend a certain store? Like Dicks Sporting Goods, etc.

Excaliburr
08-05-2012, 12:26 PM
scopes that come with guns are generally poor at best if you want my opinion. They are usually not worth it and I suggest buying the rifle you want and putting good optics on it. Optics are an essential item and many pay more for them than for the rifle itself. For a .22LR, I would say a nice 2-7 power like a Leupold VX-1 or a Redfield Revolution would be sufficient. Of course everyone has their preferences, but I do think you will need to spend between $100 and $200 for decent optics for that Mark II. It might be best to go to a store that has many you can view in person and take a look through the glass and have a feel for it before you buy. I have had plenty of those less expensive scopes to tell you that while they are OK for some jobs, target acquisition can be tougher, clarity of optics, eye relief can be issues and at certain distances targets get obscure. Better optics have parallax adjustments, focus adjustments, different reticles etc. An optic can make all the difference between an accurate shooter and one that isn't. Buy a good rifle and a good optic and it can last a lifetime and can be passed down the family tree. Well worth the investment if you ask me.

covingtonhouse
08-07-2012, 6:10 PM
As for scopes, another consideration is what yardage the scope is focused at. Most high power scopes are set to 100 yards. There are rimfire scopes that are set 50 yards. These are known as fixed parallax scopes. There are also adjustable objective or side focus scopes also. Just make sure you get one that goes down to at least 50 yards if you purchase either style. Rimfires generally have the best accuracy from 25-125 yards depending on rifle,shooter, ammo, etc

wc12
08-07-2012, 6:39 PM
:oji: Please be forewarned that this hobby is very addicting. There you go. Don't say no one told you so.

defcon
08-07-2012, 11:04 PM
Here's my Savage MKII F from Turners Reseda. Took 7 weeks to finally get this from a special order.

Added CASV rail from an AR15, bipod and flash hider

Going to the range this friday at Angeles to finally shoot this thing.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8286/7738046402_b845a60bbd_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/defcon008/7738046402/)
_MG_3485 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/defcon008/7738046402/) by defconskylude (http://www.flickr.com/people/defcon008/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7275/7738044526_4ed61015b4_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/defcon008/7738044526/)
_MG_3486 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/defcon008/7738044526/) by defconskylude (http://www.flickr.com/people/defcon008/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8428/7738044738_42bc90fd2b_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/defcon008/7738044738/)
_MG_3491 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/defcon008/7738044738/) by defconskylude (http://www.flickr.com/people/defcon008/), on Flickr

khw9mm
08-07-2012, 11:35 PM
As a starter scope, may want to consider the Bushnell 10x fixed. They're on sale at Midway for $199 for the mil/mil version.

But it all depends what you want to do with this rifle...

mrcoolguy818
08-09-2012, 11:31 PM
@ Defcon I went to Turners in Reseda and it so busy. I called later and was put on hold for 15 minutes before I hung up.

Thanks guys. I will buy the rifle and then get scope after. Should I stick with dovetail or go with a weaver rail? Also, where would I find accessories that fit a Savage Mark II FV? Im having a hard time finding them online.

defcon
08-09-2012, 11:39 PM
what time did you go? i usually go around 400-430 when its not that busy.

mrcoolguy818
08-09-2012, 11:59 PM
I went around 5. Would recommend going to the Turners in Pasadena?

defcon
08-10-2012, 12:02 AM
ive never been to that one. its too far for me.

when you buy a rifle, they give you a free coupon at angeles range.

Ifticar
08-10-2012, 12:11 AM
CZ.

aristeia
08-12-2012, 12:55 AM
If you're in the valley, drive north a bit to Oak Tree and check out what they have, shoot some of them too before you decide.

The CZs are nice but Savages are great guns for a significantly lower price.

Once you have decided on a specific model, contact Turner's, Big 5, The Target Range (Van Nuys), Guns Direct (Burbank), Aegis (Burbank), or Oak Tree for pricing and availability.

Good luck! :)

mrcoolguy818
08-12-2012, 3:19 AM
I think I will call around!

I have been going crazy and looking at the next rifle. LOL addictive. Can someone buy a new Remington 700P? Does it compare to the 700 SPS?

mrcoolguy818
08-12-2012, 7:20 PM
are there any fees when buying a rifle?

defcon
08-12-2012, 7:34 PM
are there any fees when buying a rifle?

DROS is $25 fee for background
Turners charge a $5 fee
State tax

mrcoolguy818
08-12-2012, 7:35 PM
Thanks Defcon!