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RaymondMillbrae
07-30-2012, 1:36 AM
Hey folks,

I have a question. Lets say I am hunting an CA BLM land, and we head out deep into the bush or mountains. What are the rules for pitching a tent? (Base camp).

Lets say we are near Cache Creek, Mendocino, Santa Clara, or someplace. Can we pitch a tent there for a night or two?

Just curious.

In Christ: Raymond

tony270
07-30-2012, 6:59 AM
Yeah, leave no trace.

tony270
07-30-2012, 7:01 AM
Some areas you need to be so far from a water source, road, trail, see the rules for BLM specific area.

vega
07-30-2012, 7:53 AM
How far is far?

44fred
07-30-2012, 8:10 AM
Raymond
BLM land is "our" land and most of it can be used for camping. That being said, be smart and leave no trace and don't have any open fires. Nobody will question you unless you're doing something stupid.

God bless, Fred

tony270
07-30-2012, 8:13 AM
If you have ever been out in the wilderness you should have seen this regulation. 730. Camping Near or Occupying Wildlife Watering Places.

As for far, I used that as a relative term, and what part of the bold in my quoted post below don't you understand?

Some areas you need to be so far from a water source, road, trail, see the rules for BLM specific area.

How far is far?

730. Camping Near or Occupying Wildlife Watering Places.
(a) Camping/Occupying Defined. For purposes of this Section, camping/occupying is defined as establishing or inhabiting a camp; resting; picnicking; sleeping; parking or inhabiting any motor vehicle or trailer; hunting; or engaging in any other recreational activity for a period of more than thirty (30) minutes at a given location.
(b) Wildlife Watering Places Defined. For purposes of this Section, wildlife watering places are defined as waterholes, springs, seeps and man-made watering devices for wildlife such as guzzlers (self-filling, in-the-ground water storage tanks), horizontal wells and small impoundments of less than one surface acre in size.
(c) Prohibitions.
(1) Camping/Occupying is prohibited within 200 yards of the following:
(A) Any guzzler or horizontal well for wildlife on public land within the State of California.
(B) Any of the wildlife watering places on public land within the boundary of the California Desert Conservation Area as depicted on the Bureau of Land Management maps of "Calif. Federal Public Lands Responsibility," "Calif. Desert Conservation Area” and the new “Desert District, B.L.M."
(2) Camping/Occupying is prohibited within one-quarter mile of the following wildlife watering places:
(A) Butte Well--T31N, R14E, Section 28, NE1/4, M.D.B.M., Lassen County.
(B) Schaffer Well--T31N R14E, Section 25, Center, M.D.B.M., Lassen County.
(C) Tableland Well--T31N, R14E, Section 17, SE1/4, M.D.B.M., Lassen County.
(D) Table Mountain Well--T31N, R14E, Section 32, SE1/4, M.D.B.M., Lassen County.
(E) Timber Mountain Well--T44N, R6E, Section 33, M.D.B.M., Modoc National Forest, Modoc County.
(F) Belfast Well--T31N, R14E, Section 31, NE1/4, M.D.B.M., Lassen County.

44fred
07-30-2012, 8:26 AM
Good point.

Those guzzlers can be hidden and very out of the way with a vehicle trail leading up to them. Just check before pitching.

tony270
07-30-2012, 8:28 AM
If you look up the regulations for camping on public land you will find that different public agencies have different regulations for camping. The standard BLM regulation as far as time goes is that camping in one location for longer than 14 days is not legal, you have to move, but how far?

Well some say that if you camp in a wilderness area for 14 days you have to leave, but how long before you can come back, some say a year, some say 30 days, who knows, only the rangers know. From what Ive seen different areas have different standards, and different rangers may have different standard too.

Raymond
BLM land is "our" land and most of it can be used for camping. That being said, be smart and leave no trace and don't have any open fires. Nobody will question you unless you're doing something stupid.

God bless, Fred

jmonte35
07-30-2012, 9:38 AM
Did anyone else think viagra right off the bat...just curious how rotten my mind is...

zerohour714
07-30-2012, 10:41 AM
Jmonte, I am with ya! How far into the bush do you need to be in order to pitch a tent? LMAO!!!

Hopefully the tent is already pitched if you are going that deep into the bush! :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

180ls1
07-30-2012, 11:11 AM
If your tent is pitched for more then 4 hours you need to consult a doctor.

DirtyDave
07-30-2012, 11:49 AM
I'm pitching a tent right now

AfghanVetOrcutt
07-30-2012, 12:15 PM
I'm pitching a tent right now

That + your avatar = me -> :smilielol5:

tony270
07-30-2012, 12:15 PM
Dang missed that one; I figured it out from 1801ls1 post, lol...

taperxz
07-30-2012, 12:51 PM
Did anyone else think viagra right off the bat...just curious how rotten my mind is...

Every time my wife helps me pitch a tent, it falls down within minutes. You'd think after 25 years of marriage she would to go away and let me pitch it on my own. I guess some woman are just real troopers.

AfghanVetOrcutt
07-30-2012, 1:03 PM
Best. Thread. De-railment. EVER!

RaymondMillbrae
07-30-2012, 2:04 PM
Thanks, guys.

I guess I need to get a topo map of the area we wish to hunt in...and mark any possible wildlife watering places or guzzlers.

This can also be tricky, as some of these watering holes may not be there during certain times of the year.

By the way, where did you locate this information? A link maybe.

Good info, thanks.

In Christ: Raymond

tony270
07-30-2012, 2:25 PM
http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/current/waterfowlregs.aspx

tony270
07-30-2012, 2:47 PM
Information on camping duration;
http://usbackroads.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-long-can-i-camp.html?m=1

taperxz
07-30-2012, 2:49 PM
Thanks, guys.

I guess I need to get a topo map of the area we wish to hunt in...and mark any possible wildlife watering places or guzzlers.

This can also be tricky, as some of these watering holes may not be there during certain times of the year.

By the way, where did you locate this information? A link maybe.

Good info, thanks.

In Christ: Raymond

Raymond, for the most part you don't need to worry about to many guzzlers up here. Most of that stuff is in the desert. Up here you can pretty much camp where you want. If going to the mendo NF just check in at a ranger station and they can tell you some good spots. FWIW deer season around here starts in two weeks. The forest could be crawling with people.

RaymondMillbrae
07-30-2012, 4:42 PM
Raymond, for the most part you don't need to worry about to many guzzlers up here. Most of that stuff is in the desert. Up here you can pretty much camp where you want. If going to the mendo NF just check in at a ranger station and they can tell you some good spots. FWIW deer season around here starts in two weeks. The forest could be crawling with people.

Thanks for all the applicable responses, folks!

Starting August 18th, we are predominantly bear hunting with stick & string. (Before the loudness of the general season starts). Hope to be out there on the 16th or 17th, with a pitched tent, waiting for daylight of the 18th to arrive.

I am not too worried about other folks, as most are lazy and overweight, and will not go in deeper than we will. I am looking at a good 4 to 6 mile hump into the bushes or highlands...each way.

My pardner tells me it may be a good area for deer...so I may stop by my neighborhood "Big 5" sporting goods store and pick-up a deer tag as well. (What the heck).

Already have the coordinates plugged into the GPS, just got some good topo maps of the area (to use with my compass), and all my gear is just about packed. (Finishing-up a new leather sheath for my skinning knife as we speak).

I am not thinking much about anything right now...other than the bear skull that I would like to turn in, and (hopefully) get back, and that the bear is not sick and full of tapeworms or something.

Thanks again, folks.

In Christ: Raymond

taperxz
07-30-2012, 5:22 PM
Thanks for all the applicable responses, folks!

Starting August 18th, we are predominantly bear hunting with stick & string. (Before the loudness of the general season starts). Hope to be out there on the 16th or 17th, with a pitched tent, waiting for daylight of the 18th to arrive.

I am not too worried about other folks, as most are lazy and overweight, and will not go in deeper than we will. I am looking at a good 4 to 6 mile hump into the bushes or highlands...each way.

My pardner tells me it may be a good area for deer...so I may stop by my neighborhood "Big 5" sporting goods store and pick-up a deer tag as well. (What the heck).

Already have the coordinates plugged into the GPS, just got some good topo maps of the area (to use with my compass), and all my gear is just about packed. (Finishing-up a new leather sheath for my skinning knife as we speak).

I am not thinking much about anything right now...other than the bear skull that I would like to turn in, and (hopefully) get back, and that the bear is not sick and full of tapeworms or something.

Thanks again, folks.

In Christ: Raymond

Uhh the general season for A zone starts Aug. 11th. Which you have to go to that time of year because bear in b zone doesn't start till general B season starts.

spectr17
07-30-2012, 5:23 PM
I can pitch a glorious tent. :eek:

DirtyDave
07-31-2012, 12:09 AM
Uhh the general season for A zone starts Aug. 11th. Which you have to go to that time of year because bear in b zone doesn't start till general B season starts.

He said he will be Archery hunting for Bears.
Archery season for bears starts Aug 18th in the entire "bear zone". (3rd saturday and extends for 23 days). Bear Archery has nothing to do with the deer zones and General season start dates. (A-zone is the exception because General Deer/Bear opens a week before Bear Archery, so you can shoot a bear with a rifle a week before Bear Archery opens)

taperxz
07-31-2012, 6:29 AM
Hey folks,

I have a question. Lets say I am hunting an CA BLM land, and we head out deep into the bush or mountains. What are the rules for pitching a tent? (Base camp).

Lets say we are near Cache Creek, Mendocino, Santa Clara, or someplace. Can we pitch a tent there for a night or two?

Just curious.

In Christ: Raymond

For Dave, ^^^. These areas are all A zone. Except for some of mendo, and, oh ya, (or someplace). :)

DirtyDave
07-31-2012, 8:45 AM
For Dave, ^^^. These areas are all A zone. Except for some of mendo, and, oh ya, (or someplace). :)

Cool, I'm not an A-zone guy. I like it cold when I'm hunting haha. Cool thing about hunting bears in A-zone General season is if you are a bow hunter you can carry a sidearm cuz its general season.

taperxz
07-31-2012, 8:47 AM
LOL! There is nothing COOL about hunting A zone! It's down right hot. Lol

DirtyDave
07-31-2012, 12:38 PM
LOL! There is nothing COOL about hunting A zone! It's down right hot. Lol

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