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aschooley
07-26-2012, 8:47 PM
I just got a box of Hornady 200 ftx to load up for my new 460. When I opened up my hornady 7th edition I was a bit bummed to find load data for it absent. Apparently they included it in the 8th edition that I don't have. If some kind calgunner out there could help me out in the short term with some load numbers for that bullet with N110 it would be much appreciated. I know I'll get off my butt and go get the new book before too long, but I wanna make this thing go bang ASAP!

Thanks in advance.

Na-vah-duh
07-26-2012, 9:18 PM
See below :)

Whiterabbit
07-26-2012, 9:50 PM
its on their website, actually

huh, I can't find it anymore. Good thing I downloaded it. This is straight from the Horse's Mouth at Hornady:

N-110
38.1 grains, 1900 fps
41.1 grains, 2000 fps
44.2 grains, 2100 fps This one is in black, implying a max load.

If you want to go faster than that and still use book loads, you need to go to w296 to get to 2200 or H110 to get to 2250 fps.
51.5 grains H110, 2200 fps
52.7 grains for 2250, listed in black again.


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friendly advice. light fast bullets are not fun to shoot. They are loud and unpleasant. IMO the 460 shines as a pumpkin chucker. 425 grain hardcasts using SR4759 or IMR4198 moving 1000-1400 fps are easier on the wrists, make less noise, and I'll bet (but have never tested) will penetrate more. If your 460 has a muzzle brake and you can tolerate some lead in the face you can soften the bullets up and get awesome expansion too.

aschooley
07-27-2012, 10:22 AM
thanks!

I loaded some with 11 grains of trail boss to plink with. I know the point of aim will shift but as you said, will be a bit less obnoxious to shoot. I don't plan on shooting a lot of these full up fast loads its sort of a novelty for now. Thanks again.

Whiterabbit
07-27-2012, 11:08 AM
Also IMO, if you are loading trailboss, use cheap cast bullets. no need to waste expensive jacketed bullets on cast velocities. Those 200 grain FTX bullets aren't cheap!

I've never chronoed 12g TB which is what I used to load for cast, usually 200 or 250 grains. Maybe I'll try that someday. I know what you mean though, nice and anemic.

CGT80
07-27-2012, 4:07 PM
A 250 rainier plated bullet and 11.0 trail boss gave me 971 fps average from a Smith 460 xvr.

A 270 SAA hollow point cast lead (my own cast boolits) and 11.0 of TB gave me 963 fps average.

A 200 moly coated lead RN bullet and 11.0 of TB gave 1064 average.

200 moly and 13.0 of TB gave around 1150 fps.

All of these loads are very soft and fun.

Accurate Powder 5744 is a great mid velocity powder.
I use win 296 for the hot ones.

Munk
07-28-2012, 3:46 AM
its on their website, actually

huh, I can't find it anymore. Good thing I downloaded it. This is straight from the Horse's Mouth at Hornady:



They pulled all their loads from their website. It's a poor attempt to force people into buying their load manuals. This move alone is enough to ensure that I won't be buying one of their manuals.

As far as trailboss goes... I love it with my .460 on a 15" T/C Encore. It's so soft shooting with 240 and 300 grn bullets, you can hardly tell you've fired the gun.

H110 brings the heat. At the lowest loadings in the manual, you'll still be getting kicked like a mule unless you have an impressive brake. I'm now hunting around for a good price on getting my barrel threaded, and figuring out the design of brake i'd like to go with.

Whiterabbit
07-30-2012, 8:47 PM
I don't recommend braking it. Makes it more obnoxious and fatiguing at the range.

sksman777
07-30-2012, 9:03 PM
52gr H110 WLRM, works great great

NotEnufGarage
07-31-2012, 5:44 AM
Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/ftx_load_data/460_sw_magnum_ftx.pdf

Search is your friend.

aschooley
07-31-2012, 11:24 PM
Thank you all! The 40gn of N110 (which is all I had of the powders listed and why I asked for it specifically) shot surprisingly mildly with the brake. I did however have to double up the plugs and muffs even before lighting off the big stuff. The trail boss loads in the concrete lane booth threw one hell of a concussion wave that I decided to double up before the big stuff. It was awesome chucking 200gn stones at laser like rifle velocities at 100 yard steel from a hand cannon. like I said, recoil was surprisingly mild, my 44mag Ruger super blackhawk (much ligher) has considerably more recoil.

Thanks calgunners for the help!

Munk
08-01-2012, 2:05 AM
Trailboss... Concussion? What? This doesn't seem right. Trailboss sounds like a squirrel fart, even with a case full of the stuff.

aschooley
08-01-2012, 6:43 AM
well, next to a concrete wall with that muzzle brake it was louder than I expected. Maybe I'm just a wus

Whiterabbit
08-01-2012, 8:33 AM
One more reason the muzzle brakes are no good.

Munk
08-02-2012, 7:22 AM
well, next to a concrete wall with that muzzle brake it was louder than I expected. Maybe I'm just a wus

if you're using the brake with trailboss.... don't bother. I don't think it even has the pressure needed to function right. You're just adding bark to something without the bite.

44fred
08-03-2012, 10:52 AM
Take a look.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=479951

Whiterabbit
08-03-2012, 11:08 AM
impressive, if the primers were locking the cylinder. I've only seen that with "blanks".

Also cool that they took care of you.