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Hippies_Have_Guns_Too
07-21-2012, 3:51 PM
Below I am posting a quote from a forum I used to post at for many years. Its one of the things I wish many fellow liberals would get a freak'n clue about. But not all of us liberals prescribe to this nonsense of gun control. In fact many other liberals on the forum I'm posting this quote from are just as much pro-gun rights as anyone on Calguns. Its just unfortunately I can't say that about all fellow liberals.

*Sigh* at the level of ignorance. :rolleyes:

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The .223 was designed to have only just enough rotation that when it strikes an object it acts like a dud and has the stopping action of a 50 caliber weapon. What makes it so bad is that the bullet is meant to travel throughout the target it hits and then fragment. The lethality of this kind of weapon is so severe that it should not be on the streets of this country.

There is no earthly reason to have such an assault weapon available to the general public. It is a murder and killing weapon.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002987715



Believe me when I see such ignorance about this subject from a fellow liberal. Its embarrassing. But like I said not all liberals are anti-gun. You can just scroll down the page I linked to and read posts from both gun ignorant liberals and gun knowledgeable liberals. This forum also has a section dedicated for guns. Reading it you can see what I mean. Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172)

nick
07-21-2012, 4:08 PM
He probably heard something about the "terrible tumble" of the original 5.56 round when used with the first 1/14" twist rifles, and then it mixed with whatever else he had in his head.

rojocorsa
07-21-2012, 4:36 PM
All weapons can be used to maim and kill. That's the point. Never forget that.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558301_416933111691089_1947418181_n.jpg

nick
07-21-2012, 4:44 PM
All weapons can be used to maim and kill. That's the point. Never forget that.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558301_416933111691089_1947418181_n.jpg

OT, but why does it look like the AK is humping a 91/30 in your sig? :p

cdtx2001
07-21-2012, 8:56 PM
OT, but why does it look like the AK is humping a 91/30 in your sig? :p

Well where the heck do you think PSLs come from anyways?

Vlad 11
07-21-2012, 8:59 PM
Lol, is that what they mean by Gun Pron?

mosinnagantm9130
07-21-2012, 11:05 PM
I heard that the .223 doesn't even fragment after 80 yards or so. I don't know if that's true or not, not being a .223 shooter myself

SocomM4
07-22-2012, 12:11 AM
It's funny how the majority of ppl I talked to , in person and online love to talk about how under powered .223 is ,and then something like this happens and suddenly it's the most killingest bullet ever made , capable of turning 5 ppl to dust with one shot.

m03
07-22-2012, 12:59 AM
It's funny how the majority of ppl I talked to , in person and online love to talk about how under powered .223 is ,and then something like this happens and suddenly it's the most killingest bullet ever made , capable of turning 5 ppl to dust with one shot.

Yeah, something happens and suddenly people forget that the laws of physics still apply.

Travis590A1
07-22-2012, 2:32 AM
Yup and a .45 ACP to your pinky toe is an instant kill shot!

glock21fan
07-22-2012, 2:48 AM
D'oh. To quote the movie Ted "America is imploding"

negolien
07-22-2012, 4:19 AM
The Intraweb is full of maroons...if any of these dolts actually knew anything about ballistics they would know a round like the M33 will rip a man in half. I haven't seen that effect from a 5.56/.223 to this day.

Flyin Brian
07-22-2012, 6:49 AM
Believe me when I see such ignorance about this subject from a fellow liberal. Its embarrassing. But like I said not all liberals are anti-gun. You can just scroll down the page I linked to and read posts from both gun ignorant liberals and gun knowledgeable liberals. This forum also has a section dedicated for guns. Reading it you can see what I mean. Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172)

Gee thanks, but it doesn't sound like something I'd be interested in reading.

Bobby Hated
07-22-2012, 7:07 AM
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o44/bobbyhated/RachelMaddowCivicsLesson.jpg

F***ing hypocrite

Manolito
07-22-2012, 7:33 AM
http://wstiac.alionscience.com/pdf/WQV8N1_ART01.pdf

This is probably the best primer to read if you want to know about the 5.56 round in the military and its abilities and short comings.

fighterpilot562
07-22-2012, 7:43 AM
Wow I must be one big idiot, I never knew a .223 could do that!

MrOrange
07-22-2012, 9:05 PM
You had me at "acts like a dud".

DarkSoul
07-22-2012, 9:11 PM
Funny, I always thought that a .223/5.56 had the ballistics and impact energy of a .......... .223/5.56, and a .50cal would have the balistics and impact energy of a .50cal, I guess they are using that "new" math :confused:

Divernhunter
07-22-2012, 11:13 PM
One will not kill any "deader" than the other. The big difference is a 50BMG round will still kill anything behind the tree/concrete wall/steel plate of a good thickness/etc whereas the 223/5.56 will not make it thru. Especially at longer ranges such as 400 yards.

PS ---The 50BMG also make a much bigger hole.

morfeeis
07-22-2012, 11:25 PM
And how many of those incidents happen in comparison to the loon with a gun scenario? The numbers aren't even close. Also you are comparing criminal conspiracies with multiple actors to the acts of lone gunmen. Apples to Oranges.

And it is a hell og a lot more challenging to pull off teh criminal conspiracy. That is why there are less of them.

I don't think anyone is saying ban guns -- that toothpaste is out of the tube, so to speak. But there is little reson to have high capacity magazines, hollow point bullets or plastic jacketed bullets, speed loaders, kevlar body armour,and all the rest. The founders never envisoned that. When they wrote about guns weren't they talking about muskets?

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?p=13745940#post13745940

that's another good one from a guy i've been going post for post with for a while on another forum. i ripped him a new one after the speed loader thing