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mmayer707
07-15-2012, 9:55 AM
I bought a Ciener AR-15 22LR conversion kit and the magazine that came with the kit will allow me to cram 11 rounds into it. :confused: Does this make the mag illegal to use? Should i return the mag for a new one? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

P.S. When I say "cram" the 11th round in I mean it. I really have to press the thing in there. However all the other 10 round mags I have I cannot get an 11th in. Heck, on my Glock 21 I can barely get the 10th in the mags.

bohoki
07-15-2012, 10:00 AM
it would be a concern if you were using it in a pistol

mmayer707
07-15-2012, 10:05 AM
Nah, its a rifle. Isn't the 10 round max mag capacity for all guns though, even rimfire?

Dantedamean
07-15-2012, 10:24 AM
Nah, its a rifle. Isn't the 10 round max mag capacity for all guns though, even rimfire?

I think rimfire tube mags are ok to have more then 10. Anything else caps out at 10.

mmayer707
07-15-2012, 10:27 AM
I am thinking I am just going to send the mag back. It isn't worth me worrying over. I have 4 other 10 round mags for the conversion that will barely take 10 and i will just use those in the meantime.

phrogg111
07-15-2012, 10:35 AM
It was illegal for it to be imported, sold, or manufactured. Now that you have it, it is not illegal to use in your rifle. Posession of hi capacity magazines, and use of them, is NOT illegal. I doubt cops will force an 11th round into your mag anyway.

If you have a pistol AR, then the mag is outside the pistol grip, so you probably need to have the magazine fixed, and an 11 rd fixed mag is illegal, although there may be a rimfire exception.

theicecreamdan
07-15-2012, 10:39 AM
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

I would be comfortable keeping and using it (in a rifle).

"(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. "

Nitro Express!
07-15-2012, 10:59 AM
I think rimfire tube mags are ok to have more then 10. Anything else caps out at 10.

That's also capped at ten rounds.

mmayer707
07-15-2012, 11:12 AM
That's also capped at ten rounds.

Actually I was just reading up and the 22 tube fed magazines are the exception:

Penal Code 12020 states:

12020 (a)(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes
to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or
offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-
capacity magazine.

12020 (c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity
magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity
to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to
include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so
that itcannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.

mmayer707
07-15-2012, 11:13 AM
It was illegal for it to be imported, sold, or manufactured. Now that you have it, it is not illegal to use in your rifle. Posession of hi capacity magazines, and use of them, is NOT illegal. I doubt cops will force an 11th round into your mag anyway.

If you have a pistol AR, then the mag is outside the pistol grip, so you probably need to have the magazine fixed, and an 11 rd fixed mag is illegal, although there may be a rimfire exception.

This makes me feel much better. I read up a bit and it seems to be a fact. I guess I will keep it.

Lugiahua
07-15-2012, 11:28 PM
If cops forced 11th rd into the mag, you can then claimed that they manufacture the hi cap,not you.:43:

stix213
07-16-2012, 2:27 AM
If you're looking for zero risk, I would contact the seller of the magazine and get a replacement. Technically the seller could be in violation of penal code 32310 for illegal importation/sale of a large-capacity magazine, and you as a party to that crime who now knows about it could be guilty of conspiracy, though that would be harder to prove, or could be guilty of 32310 illegal importation. Violation of 32310 can be up to 1 year in county jail, or up to 3 years in state prison.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=32001-33000&file=32310-32390

If you are stopped by police for any reason, somehow mention you recently bought those magazines for any reason, and the police then discover you've got 11 round mags, you can certainly talk yourself into arrest that way. If you know enough not to talk yourself into arrest, then meh... Best thing still though is to get replacement mags to stay on the up and up (even if I might not bother).

Other than that though, it is in no way illegal to use any size magazine you have in a rimfire longgun.

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