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GettoPhilosopher
06-20-2012, 7:36 PM
I may never buy another rail again.


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GettoPhilosopher
06-20-2012, 7:36 PM
Ok, so let's start this review with the obvious #1 pro of this piece of kit: Weight.

Going from the amazingly helpful Rail Systems chart (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsFnUZMkZNF2DQ&output=html), here's the weight comparison:

*A normal A2 handguard weighs 14.30 oz, including 2.8 oz for the barrel nut, delta ring, and handguard cap.
*A rifle length Magpul MOE handguard weighs 14.93 oz, including 2.8 oz for the barrel nut, delta ring, and handguard cap.
*A Yankee Hill Machine 12" Diamond free float rail weighs 19.8 oz, including the barrel nut and all hardware.
*A 12" Seekins Precision SAR rail (also branded under Spikes Tactical) is 12.26 oz, including the barrel nut and all hardware.

You heard me right. This is a 12" quad rail, full metal, that weighs 18% lighter (2.67 oz) than plastic Magpul handguards, and 38% (7.54 oz) lighter than a fairly standard quad rail.

Now I know, we're chasing ounces here. I wrestled back and forth about it before I bought, because I knew I could get another YHM Diamond for about $125 instead of the $230 for the SAR, and kept asking myself if 7.54 ounces was really noticeable.

....it is. Holy god it is. And not just for the weight itself....it moves the center of balance back, making the rifle MUCH more enjoyable to carry, point, and hold. Based on my 100% unscientific "try to balance a rifle in my hand" test, the center of gravity is squarely in the back of the magazine well (with a loaded preban magazine in the well).

Now for the rest. It's a thinner rail than my YHM Diamond, but still very comfortable. I'm one of those weirdos who prefers the feel of a bare quad rail (Giggety?) under my hands than plastic handguards or rail covers. Overall the entire thing feels sturdy as heck, though I'll be the first to admit nothing can replace actual hard use.

The installation was slightly annoying; for reasons I cannot fathom, I have an armorer's wrench but NOT a sufficiently large crescent wrench. The nut seems to be 1 1/16 or 1 1/8"; my 1" wrench was just slightly too small. I had to use a pair of channel locks, which totally scratched up my barrel nut. Oh well. It's kind of annoying.....you screw the mounting nut onto the receiver as far back as you can while still indexing the gas tube. Then you screw the barrel nut into the mounting nut (and on top of the barrel extension). This means you have to guestimate how to index it properly; as you torque down the titanium barrel nut, it *will* rotate the mounting nut as well. So you have to keep the mounting nut at around 11:30, then torque down the barrel nut and hope it all lines up. It took a couple tries, but wasn't that bad.

The fit of the rail itself sliding onto the mounting nut was perfect....like a glove. It also has 5 QD non-rotating sling swivel mounts (2 on each side, front and back, and one on the bottom end).

All in all, I'm sold. I get to finally take out my 2nd generation Dissy this weekend with my wife (her first shooting trip since she got pregnant....baby's finally born, so time to go shooting!). I'll post a range report then.

Pictures to follow as I pull them from my phone.

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Intimid8tor
06-20-2012, 7:40 PM
I can't wait. I have been slobbering over their uppers and have considered getting those.

deviljon
06-21-2012, 7:41 AM
I have the 9" version from Spikes Tactical and it feels completely different than any other rail I've ever come across. Haven't installed it yet but it will be mated to a Seekins Precision billet upper for a pistol build.

I've heard the installation on the rail is a bit difficult, but thanks for the pointers!

GettoPhilosopher
06-21-2012, 9:00 AM
I have the 9" version from Spikes Tactical and it feels completely different than any other rail I've ever come across. Haven't installed it yet but it will be mated to a Seekins Precision billet upper for a pistol build.

I've heard the installation on the rail is a bit difficult, but thanks for the pointers!

It's actually really not *THAT* hard. If I'd had the proper crescent wrench, it would have been even easier. Just line the mounting nut up around 11:30, snug the barrel nut down. See if the mounting nut is indexed properly (can you get the gas tube to slide through the mounting nut into the receiver?). If not, back off, try again. Only took me 5 tries? Not bad, just slightly annoying.

As for actually putting the rail on the mounting nut, couldn't be simpler. Slide the rail over the barrel and onto the mounting nut. Screw in the 4 screws. Done.

If you want the anti-rotation pins, screw those in with an allen wrench too.

john.t.singh
06-21-2012, 9:06 AM
I've been trying to buy the 13" SAR rail forever but i finally gave up and just got the 12" at JoeBob's for a killer deal.... now waiting for my barrel to come in.

Intimid8tor
06-21-2012, 9:35 AM
I was hoping you had the seekins monolithic design that incorporates their upper, and it is machined for the rail to attach to.

Short Action Precision
06-21-2012, 10:54 AM
Looks good Ghetto!!