View Full Version : $75 Oil Filter Suppressor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haiqFcIXTqs
Huh ... yeah not sure what to say about it but I figured I should share for the entertainment value.
jebuwh
06-16-2012, 9:37 PM
that is awesome! i might have to pick one of those up when i move to idaho. just for fun.
Ubermcoupe
06-16-2012, 10:18 PM
LOL - That looks so awesome... dumb CA laws. :(
CessnaDriver
06-16-2012, 10:27 PM
LOL - That looks so awesome... dumb CA laws. :(
Don't you know that ownership of a suppressor instantly turns you into an assassin and hitman!!!
far from tactical
06-16-2012, 10:37 PM
Wow that's very very nice
Alan Block
06-17-2012, 1:10 AM
Would that work on a 1911? I realize I might have to get a 5.5 or 6 in barrel.
lazyworm
06-17-2012, 1:57 AM
Don't you mean $275? It still needs the tax stamp.
Don't you know that ownership of a suppressor instantly turns you into an assassin and hitman!!!
And silencers are only used to kill people just like all the 'azzualt weapon' ak47's are only used to kill people. Citizens dont need that kind of firepower with bananna clips and bayonets
Does this now mean that possession of an oil filter is constructive possession of a silencer?;)
Nicki
ldivinag
06-17-2012, 4:49 AM
nifty idea.
i see:
1. by itself, it's not a suppressor. you need to attach something to it to do the actual suppressing. i wonder if you use the washable K&N filter would it be usable for a million rounds??? ;)
2. bad aiming... since you really cant aim at the target.
MrExel17
06-17-2012, 6:44 AM
Don't you mean $275? It still needs the tax stamp.
+1, Bingo
G-forceJunkie
06-17-2012, 7:15 AM
1. by itself, it's not a suppressor. you need to attach something to it to do the actual suppressing. i wonder if you use the washable K&N filter would it be usable for a million rounds??? ;)
The adaptor, by itself, IS considered a suppressor and IS taxed the $200. Sound crazy? Well, the ATF in the past has classified a shoe string as a machine gun.
Intimid8tor
06-17-2012, 7:43 AM
I actually just sent the ATF a letter on this very item. There is a lot of discussion about it on the silencer boards and how it impacts constructive posession. The ATF considers a silencer part a silencer. Now, the ATF also allows "wipes" to be changed in those silencers that need wipes.
I asked the ATF a couple questions. First, is it really approved by them. Second, is it lawful as the owner of this suppressor to change the filter and does the ATF view the filter as a "wipe". Does the ATF still approve of owners changing their own wipes? Does having 10 oil filters and this item, legally owned on a Form 4, constitute any kind of constructive posession issues?
I would like to get one just because of the fun factor and the fact it could be used on just about any rifle. I don't think it will work on most pistol due to the weight. It all depends on the action. Regular suppressors often need inertia adapters to work on pistols to take the weigh of the barrel to get it to cycle.
Guns R Tools
06-17-2012, 7:49 AM
Does better filter, like Wix, makes better suppressor than say Fram?
PRODRIVE
06-17-2012, 9:18 AM
OMG.
i have non registered NFA oil filters in my garage!!!!
Intimid8tor
06-17-2012, 9:22 AM
OMG.
i have non registered NFA oil filters in my garage!!!!
Don't give the ATF any ideas. After all, they did call a shoe string an NFA item and chore boy pads NFA items.
That is a huge can. Who cares though, sights are overrated. Though I'd love to see suppressor profile sights for that.
DaveInOroValley
06-17-2012, 9:59 AM
Here you go:
haiqFcIXTqs
compulsivegunbuyer
06-17-2012, 10:39 AM
This person is selling AN fittings that are threaded to fit the barrel. A NFA AN fitting, what will they think of next. So, one tap- $5, one AN fitting- $2, one oil filter- $5, and you have the $12 illegal disposable untraceable perfectly disguised silencer. We must stop the free sale of oil filters now. Oil filters must be serialized, and only changed on an exchange basis by a shop that holds an oil filter permit. All old oil filters must be destroyed with documentation. Removing the oil filter from your car is to be a felony. Possesion of unregistered oil filters, 10 years in prison. It's only a matter of time before the "Fram Sniper" unleashes his clandestine killing spree on the general public. Oh the horror!
154842
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/09/03/oil-filter-suppressor/
compulsivegunbuyer
06-17-2012, 10:41 AM
You can trust the government, just ask an indian
This is one of my favorite sig lines.
Ubermcoupe
06-17-2012, 11:41 AM
Don't you know that ownership of a suppressor instantly turns you into an assassin and hitman!!!
Shhhh :43: :shifty:
Does this now mean that possession of an oil filter is constructive possession of a silencer?;)
Nicki
After the Brillo Pad classification I wouldn’t be surprised.
i think that guy stole my friends ideal...... his at least protects from blow back with the plate. made this one 10 years ago. works like a charm i have used it a few times.. in a free state of course =)
Dark Sky Solutions
06-17-2012, 2:25 PM
I am very self conscious about the environment. I just want to have one to filter all of my cleaning lube out of my weapon while I am cleaning them.
alfred1222
06-17-2012, 2:33 PM
Hmm idk, i don't think I'll keep oil filters around anymore
Jeepers
06-17-2012, 2:49 PM
kinda reminds me of these that went with a big flop ....
http://www.silencertests.com/albums/Improvised/btpetadapter.jpg
http://www.silencertests.com/albums/Improvised/btpetflasce.sized.jpg
Cali-Shooter
06-17-2012, 3:26 PM
Make one out of a muffler next, preferably for a shotgun silencer.
Mac Attack
06-17-2012, 4:05 PM
My LGS has a good supply of suppressors including the oil filter adapter. The shop has a long filter on it and claimed it did a pretty fair job. However it is not very usable unless you are good at point shooting since sites are not high enough.
Turbinator
06-17-2012, 4:51 PM
Pretty neat idea. Had never seen that concept before, thanks for posting and sharing it.
Turby
1911su16b870
06-17-2012, 6:03 PM
The adapter is the NFA registered item.
ERdept
06-17-2012, 9:33 PM
Make one out of a muffler next, preferably for a shotgun silencer.
Yeah Mugen power!:p
I am very self conscious about the environment. I just want to have one to filter all of my cleaning lube out of my weapon while I am cleaning them.
Funny you say that as they also sell just the adapter as a solvent trap so you can catch all your cleaning solvents in a filter. They are not reg'd with ATF since they are not meant to use as a suppressor. Shoot through the can and you create an unreg'd suppressor...
Dark Sky Solutions
06-18-2012, 7:37 PM
Funny you say that as they also sell just the adapter as a solvent trap so you can catch all your cleaning solvents in a filter. They are not reg'd with ATF since they are not meant to use as a suppressor. Shoot through the can and you create an unreg'd suppressor...
Well I would never shoot thru the suppressor while I am cleaning my gun. Anyway if I did that would be illegal, I would never do that.
Beard, cigarette, and a suppressed SBR. I think I have a new hero.
Mac Attack
06-19-2012, 3:26 AM
This person is selling AN fittings that are threaded to fit the barrel. A NFA AN fitting, what will they think of next. So, one tap- $5, one AN fitting- $2, one oil filter- $5, and you have the $12 illegal disposable untraceable perfectly disguised silencer. We must stop the free sale of oil filters now. Oil filters must be serialized, and only changed on an exchange basis by a shop that holds an oil filter permit. All old oil filters must be destroyed with documentation. Removing the oil filter from your car is to be a felony. Possesion of unregistered oil filters, 10 years in prison. It's only a matter of time before the "Fram Sniper" unleashes his clandestine killing spree on the general public. Oh the horror!
154842
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/09/03/oil-filter-suppressor/
What is a AN fitting?
Intimid8tor
06-19-2012, 3:59 AM
What is a AN fitting?
It stands for army navy and specifies the type of flair used on a specific fitting. At least that was the original spec. I think the term is more loosely applied these days. Commonly used to make braided hoses for use on cars and planes.
Ken Woodford
06-28-2012, 3:09 PM
The web site says you can save money using a used oil filter!!!
I'm not sure but hot gasses and burning powder in a used oil filter doesn't sound like something I would do. Are not most oil filters paper too?
bohoki
06-28-2012, 3:23 PM
what they need is a maglight adapter
i wonder if used filters would be quiter of course if you use those with an ak you may get some flames
stix213
06-28-2012, 3:54 PM
Turns out all my cars have illegal non-registered NFA items. oops
Ron-Solo
06-28-2012, 10:55 PM
I was actually impressed by this one.
ClarenceBoddicker
06-29-2012, 12:10 AM
As others have said the adapter would be the NFA item, or the barrel depending if the adapter was modified from it's original configuration. Suppressor parts have to be designed as or modified into suppressor parts. Common items that can be used to make a suppressor are not suppressors or suppressor parts unless they are assembled into one. If that was the case a lot of hardware & home improvement stores that sold fender washers, copper scrub pads, pipe/tubing, fiberglass insulation, duct tape, etc etc would be guilty of the non existent "constructive possession" charge. ATF never charges people with "constructive possession", but with possession. If you have control of all the parts needed no matter where the parts are, then you are in possession. Taking apart an NFA weapon & keeping all the parts does not turn possession into "constructive possession". "Constructive possession" would be taking one of the required parts and storing it elsewhere, yet under your control. ATF would still call it what it really is: possession. Post 1986 that is irrelevant as individual suppressor parts are treated as suppressors themselves. Due to gunshow sales of legal suppressor "kits" without tubes, Congress changed the definition of a suppressor to include any part of one. BTW, ATF has prosecuted & won a conviction of unregistered suppressors that were empty toilet paper tubes stuffed with toilet paper and attached to a firearm.
lear60man
06-30-2012, 2:49 PM
I was actually surprised they shot the first round THROUGH the oil filter instead of punching a hole first. Seems to work great.
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