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Chontkleer
06-14-2012, 9:31 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/laser-guided-bullets-2012-6

Imagine these things could be launched from drones too.

Black Majik
06-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Does it make headshots on elephants?

MrPlink
06-14-2012, 10:24 PM
PS74?

Chontkleer
06-14-2012, 10:37 PM
PS74?

???

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/r/rsv/rsv-idx?type=DIV2&byte=2298806

PEBKAC
06-14-2012, 11:01 PM
Is it multical this is important.

Chontkleer
06-14-2012, 11:12 PM
Is it multical this is important.

If it's part of the DARPA stuff, then I think just 50 cal.

pTa
06-14-2012, 11:20 PM
/Where do you get 10,000 yards?// Article claims 3,500 yards///

Chontkleer
06-14-2012, 11:25 PM
/Where do you get 10,000 yards?// Article claims 3,500 yards///

It does? Where?

(Just hyper-bowl. One would think that the projectile's main limitation is whatever the powder (if that's what launches it) can do. Guys in wing suits can probably do 10,000 yards in the right conditions and dropped from the right height).

Also, interestingly, the link to the Sunday Times article is dead, and I can't find it on their website.

Plisk
06-14-2012, 11:50 PM
Title of the article says 2 miles. That's closer to 10,000 feet, not yards.

Chontkleer
06-14-2012, 11:54 PM
Title of the article says 2 miles. That's closer to 10,000 feet, not yards.

Oh, that's just the Business Insider headline. Max range for a .50 cal bullet (not current max. effective range) is something like 10-11,000 yards.

MontClaire
06-14-2012, 11:57 PM
:dupe:No mention of a caliber or weapon they tested. I call this a bulls...t!

Chontkleer
06-15-2012, 12:02 AM
Here's 8800 yards.

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/nov/04/stray-bullet-injures-woman-texas-motor-speedway/

Plisk
06-15-2012, 12:07 AM
No caliber is mentioned in the article and you're basing your title purely of indirect fire range of a random caliber. It is in no way related to the article/topic.

Chontkleer
06-15-2012, 12:14 AM
Well whatever it is (the DARPA testing is for .50 cal) it's going to most likely be something big enough to make a dent.

Plus if you'll notice, I used a question mark in the title of my post?

Go to sleep, Plisk. You're cranky!

Plisk
06-15-2012, 12:15 AM
Well whatever it is (the DARPA testing is for .50 cal) it's going to most likely be something big enough to make a dent.

Plus if you'll notice, I used a question mark in the title of my post?

Go to sleep, Plisk. You're cranky!

I'm not cranky, just picky. I like stuff to make sense. :D

Chontkleer
06-15-2012, 12:16 AM
I'm not cranky, just picky. I like stuff to make sense. :D

Cranky and picky!

NSR500
06-15-2012, 12:29 AM
Aimbot cheat...

Punkbuster will eventually patch for it and they won't be able to play on the server.

:shifty:

Chontkleer
06-15-2012, 12:31 AM
:rofl2:

acaligunner
06-15-2012, 12:47 AM
How about just super gluing a small grenade to the tip of a 7mm. Delay the time it goes off and there you go a sure 1,000 yard weapon. You like. :)

acaligunner

MrExel17
06-15-2012, 6:06 AM
+1 Aimbot hahah, glad Call of Duty Modern Warfare has some use after all!

CSACANNONEER
06-15-2012, 6:19 AM
:dupe:No mention of a caliber or weapon they tested. I call this a bulls...t!

Call it whatever you want. But, I know a Calgunner who spearheaded this project. It was a real project and it does work. He's since passed it off to the agency that commisioned him to develop it. That's all I can really say about it.

ubet
06-15-2012, 9:37 AM
IF and I mean thats a prettey big IF, this is true, its not so much a bullet as a guided missle fired by gunpowder. I just see this as a huge waste of time and money. Money is better spent on teaching technique than tech to fix problems that dont exist.

One thing I call bull**** on, it says the average shot at .5mile is off by 9meters, BULL EFFING $H!T.

Their are guys that are shooting and connecting at 3k+ meters right now. A rifle/bullet is in the works thats apparently accurate at 5kyds.

All this seems to be doing is fixing a problem that doesnt exist. They should spend more time/money teaching soldiers to shoot as opposed to developing tech thats a waste of money.

Just my 2 cents

21SF
06-15-2012, 9:48 AM
If its laser guided why not just get rid of the rifle, period.

Just have a mini ricket system.

THIS IS DUMB

bobomb
06-15-2012, 9:52 AM
if you fire into crowds you can be look like an expert

Lifeon2whls
06-15-2012, 10:22 AM
Yeah I really dont get the point of a "rifle" in this case. You can have guys with binoculars/spotting scope that lazes the targets, just like you do with certain guided bombs, and then have some type of device that starts firing out the smart projectiles. This way your "sniper" doesn't have to worry as much about detection because the device can be remote...and who knows even disposable.

Chontkleer
06-15-2012, 3:07 PM
IF and I mean thats a prettey big IF, this is true, its not so much a bullet as a guided missle fired by gunpowder. I just see this as a huge waste of time and money. Money is better spent on teaching technique than tech to fix problems that dont exist.

One thing I call bull**** on, it says the average shot at .5mile is off by 9meters, BULL EFFING $H!T.

Their are guys that are shooting and connecting at 3k+ meters right now. A rifle/bullet is in the works thats apparently accurate at 5kyds.

All this seems to be doing is fixing a problem that doesnt exist. They should spend more time/money teaching soldiers to shoot as opposed to developing tech thats a waste of money.

Just my 2 cents

Shooting at ranges over 1000 yards is basically luck with single shots. Typically if you miss, and the target actually cares they're being shot at, you don't get another shot. What they've done is find a solution to the wind problem.

Dhena81
06-15-2012, 3:25 PM
Damn birds never had a chance.

totalinfidel
06-15-2012, 4:12 PM
Sure would make hitting that elk out at 400 yards a lot easier. Hell, come to think of it, I can barley see the thing that far away!

CBruce
06-15-2012, 4:17 PM
10,000 yards is a decent shot, but not what I'm capable of with my trusty flintlock:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/3842169674_f3bc35a18d.jpg

killshot44
06-16-2012, 10:38 AM
Complete Vapor-Ware.....

Why wouldn't we just give the point-man a capable rifle instead of a designator? Derp.

bomb_on_bus
06-16-2012, 10:53 AM
This type of bullet has been under development for over a decade or so. At firist the bullet was designed to to tug and pull on internal mechanisms to keep it on a straight flightpath

I do like the sound of a laser designated bullet that has fins............... sounds more like a smart bomb or smart bullet of sorts.

Beetle Bailey
06-16-2012, 2:55 PM
A computer chip, optical sensor, and fins all on a bullet? That's gotta be one expensive bullet. On the plus side, load development won't take as long. And smoothbore means the barrel will be cheaper and easier to clean. Will this make rifled barrels obsolete?

Scuba Steve33
06-16-2012, 3:36 PM
Shooting at ranges over 1000 yards is basically luck with single shots. Typically if you miss, and the target actually cares they're being shot at, you don't get another shot. What they've done is find a solution to the wind problem.

When most people get shot at, they get to cover. At that range you won't have the slightest idea where it came from, if you even know for sure you're being shot at. You'll drop to cover but without knowing where it came from can still be in full view.

CSACANNONEER
06-16-2012, 7:02 PM
When most people get shot at, they get to cover. At that range you won't have the slightest idea where it came from, if you even know for sure you're being shot at. You'll drop to cover but without knowing where it came from can still be in full view.

Really? You obviously have never worked 1000 yatd pits with .50 cal bullets flying 4 feet over your head. Trust me, you know you're taking fire. With minimal common sense, one can quickly determine the basic dirrection the shot came from by the way the bullet impacts and focusing on the sound of the shot. At 1000 yards, hearing protection is require in the pits. At 3000 yards, one would still hear the shot fine.

Scuba Steve33
06-16-2012, 8:50 PM
Really? You obviously have never worked 1000 yatd pits with .50 cal bullets flying 4 feet over your head. Trust me, you know you're taking fire. With minimal common sense, one can quickly determine the basic dirrection the shot came from by the way the bullet impacts and focusing on the sound of the shot. At 1000 yards, hearing protection is require in the pits. At 3000 yards, one would still hear the shot fine.

Nope, never been in pits. You're expecting shots. I have seen enemy be engaged from that range + and some not realize they were being shot at. And no, Taliban are not stupid.

major burnout
06-17-2012, 6:20 PM
A tool like this would be useful if you and two friends had to simultaneously pop three Somali melons on high seas.

trigger hippie
06-17-2012, 7:34 PM
This is strongly reminiscent of the Gyrojet technology, which is fascinating, because the technology is completely effin' different, which kind of makes me wonder about why.

Anyone remember Gyrojets? They were similar insofar as they were also smoothbore (!) and had an identical peculiarity in being more lethal at range than up close - the "bullets" in Gyrojets were actually (as the name suggests) gyroscopically stabilized rockets that accelerated as they gained distance from the barrel.

This *could* be the final say in trench warfare. Imagine a drone overhead lasing a target in a trench a few feet away from you... as you fire 90 degrees up into the air... the bullet flies upward, nearly reaching escape velocity, noses down, acquires the laser, and craters the bad guy : )