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Chameleon Loco
06-13-2012, 10:57 PM
I am looking for an ak type rifle and am interested in purchasing one. The two models I am considering are the Russian Saiga AK 47 Rifle IZ 132 and the Saiga IZ 332 100 Series Russian AK47 Rifle. Is the second model worth the extra money and can they both be used without bullet buttons? I have shot a saiga before and like its reliability and low cost for an ak type rifle. I do have a question about the 922r law if I bought 30 round surefire rebuild kits could I use them out of state or would I need to convert the rifle first?

IEatZ28
06-13-2012, 11:09 PM
If it doesn't have a PG there is no need for a BB. And I believe 922r is federal not state law.

89 Vision
06-13-2012, 11:22 PM
I say go for the IZ 332. To me it's definitely worth the extra 50-60 bucks, especially if you ever choose to do a full conversion. I'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about 922r unless you add features (like a bullet guide for standard AK mags). If you're using Surefire mags that are made for Saiga, you should not need a bullet guide for proper function.

nick
06-13-2012, 11:27 PM
If you intend to convert it, 332 is worth the extra money. If not, then it's not.

PEZHEAD265
06-14-2012, 10:24 AM
If you use more then a 10 rd mag of any kind or anywhere you have to be 922r compliant.By using a high cap mags you are taking the gun out of the sporting category.

shoebox56
06-14-2012, 10:44 AM
Not 922r related, but in regards to IZ332. There are reports on other forums of people getting away with using AK magazines without a bullet guide modification.

Chameleon Loco
06-14-2012, 1:02 PM
Does the final cost rival a high end ak like arsenal's?

Richard Erichsen
06-14-2012, 1:45 PM
Does the final cost rival a high end ak like arsenal's?

Arsenal = Saiga conversion (most of them are). There is always building your own, taking your time and having even greater flexibility with fewer holes to fill.

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zfields
06-14-2012, 2:16 PM
Does the final cost rival a high end ak like arsenal's?

You can get in a couple hundred lower. Its nice thought to be able to get the parts you want off the bat.