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APOCALYPSE70
06-10-2012, 12:23 AM
Where can I get some .308 at a good price? Help me out! No steel BS!

dr_communist
06-10-2012, 12:31 AM
Sgammo.com

zomie
06-10-2012, 1:08 AM
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/rifle-ammunition/308-7-62.html

They also have free shipping this summer.

APOCALYPSE70
06-10-2012, 7:43 AM
anything else?

g17owner
06-10-2012, 7:48 AM
The only thing PSA has that is of a decent price is the PMC bronze. PSA was at one time a great place to buy ammo but they have let their prices slip from being competitive to be inflated.
Here are some better places IMHO for 308
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000215&dir=18|830|848
http://www.unammo.com/#Rifle
http://www.samcoglobal.com/Ammo-308-win.html
http://www.samcoglobal.com/Ammo-nato.html

Zeva
06-10-2012, 10:48 AM
Is the one from wideners legal? I know there are restrictions on linked ammo but does that only apply to linked ammo over 10 rounds?

weber_2
06-10-2012, 10:57 AM
What's wrong with steel BS. What are you running it thru?

g17owner
06-10-2012, 12:27 PM
It is only 4 rounds per link so you should be fine, unless there are some other restrictions I don't know about.

motorwerks
06-10-2012, 12:46 PM
no such thing as .308 for a good price! lol

Omega13device
06-10-2012, 12:47 PM
The only thing PSA has that is of a decent price is the PMC bronze. PSA was at one time a great place to buy ammo but they have let their prices slip from being competitive to be inflated.
Here are some better places IMHO for 308
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000215&dir=18|830|848
http://www.unammo.com/#Rifle
http://www.samcoglobal.com/Ammo-308-win.html
http://www.samcoglobal.com/Ammo-nato.html

That's not an apples to apples comparison. That's all surplus ammo above, which is not reloadable by most people and the Wideners stuff has to be de-linked. All Palmetto has in stock right now other than the PMC is match/hunting/self-defense ammo.

TreeHugger
06-10-2012, 1:10 PM
no such thing as .308 for a good price! lol

Haha, so true, even surplus crap is too expensive. Prices used to be much better (back in the 80's), there is no such thing as a good price nowadays. PSA usually has the best price if they have what you want, next is sgammo.

toby
06-10-2012, 3:02 PM
Roll your own!

huck
06-10-2012, 3:37 PM
If you can stand to buy 500 rounds, this is a good deal:

http://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-855-wolf-performance-308-winchester-145-grain-full-metal-jacket-ammunition.aspx

alfred1222
06-10-2012, 4:18 PM
why dont you put the money that you want to drop on ammo aside, save and buy reloading equipment, and than never ask your original question again

motorwerks
06-10-2012, 4:22 PM
why dont you put the money that you want to drop on ammo aside, save and buy reloading equipment, and than never ask your original question again

I was given .308 Dies a few months ago.... I'm working on reloading next.

bcrich
06-10-2012, 6:44 PM
I was given .308 Dies a few months ago.... I'm working on reloading next.

Best thing you can do!

alfred1222
06-10-2012, 6:50 PM
I was given .308 Dies a few months ago.... I'm working on reloading next.

You are a smart man. i was talking to the OP, but reloading your own ammo, especially long rifle ammo, is one of the smartest things you can do

GM4spd
06-10-2012, 7:00 PM
If you need NON magnetic ammo it is getting harder and harder to find
at any kind of price, reloading is a help, but how much is YOUR time
worth? Pete

bomb_on_bus
06-10-2012, 7:25 PM
Cheapo military surplus can be had for around 30 cents a round. Portuguese, Argentine, Santa Barbara, S&B............ to name a few. They are all brass cased and reloadable and usually have a 147 grain projectile.

Ammoman.com
Gun-deals.com
ammoengine.com
Wideners.com
Natchezss.com

Pretty much these places will have anything your looking for.

TurboChrisB
06-10-2012, 9:53 PM
With shipping you won't find anything under .40 a round.

APOCALYPSE70
06-10-2012, 10:39 PM
If im shooting an enterprise arms FAL is it okay to shoot wolf or should I stick to brass?

motorwerks
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
If im shooting an enterprise arms FAL is it okay to shoot wolf or should I stick to brass?

You wont really know without shooting it. I dont think I would shoot steel in an FAL but I dont know much about them.

sigstroker
06-10-2012, 11:53 PM
Cheapo military surplus can be had for around 30 cents a round. Portuguese, Argentine, Santa Barbara, S&B............ to name a few. They are all brass cased and reloadable and usually have a 147 grain projectile.

Ammoman.com
Gun-deals.com
ammoengine.com
Wideners.com
Natchezss.com

Pretty much these places will have anything your looking for.

Those aren't reloadable.

In the good ole days it cost more for the components than for the surplus ammo, so nobody reloaded .308 except hunters and benchresters.

Brave Sir Robin
06-11-2012, 12:39 AM
i always circulate between sportsmans guide, cheaper than dirt, or ammunition to go for higher quality stuff

Bastard
06-11-2012, 3:37 AM
Where can I get some .308 at a good price? Help me out! No steel BS!
what specifically are you looking for? if it doesn't shoot accurately out of your rifle then any thing would be as good as the "steel BS"

Long Rifle
06-11-2012, 5:27 AM
why dont you put the money that you want to drop on ammo aside, save and buy reloading equipment, and than never ask your original question again

I get what you're saying, but I seem to be stuck in the never ending cycle of everytime I put together a fistful of cash I buy a new gun instead :o. PMC Bronze is about 60 cents a round. Federal 168gr Gold Medal Match is a buck a round. How much would it cost to hand load each type of bullet?

stevied
06-11-2012, 6:24 AM
I get what you're saying, but I seem to be stuck in the never ending cycle of everytime I put together a fistful of cash I buy a new gun instead :o. PMC Bronze is about 60 cents a round. Federal 168gr Gold Medal Match is a buck a round. How much would it cost to hand load each type of bullet?

If you don't have brass
Federal Brass $40/100 = $.4

SMK $28/100 $.28

Primers $25/1000 $.025

Powder $20/lb $.147 @ 42 grains

.852 first round

.452 after first round.

advan031
06-11-2012, 7:40 AM
Re-loading is not an option for me right now unfortunately so I just try and ignore the .57 cents and 1 dollar I throw down range...lol

Intimid8tor
06-11-2012, 8:00 AM
Just keep an eye out on the forums. Last month I bought 3-4K rounds of good NATO surplus for .43-.50 per round.

German Dag made up about 2K rounds of it. The other was various NATO in boxes or battle packs.

GunDog
06-11-2012, 8:16 AM
Portuguese FNM .308 available at SAMCO about the best pricing currently....
http://www.samcoglobal.com/Ammo-nato.html

Long Rifle
06-11-2012, 9:18 AM
If you don't have brass
Federal Brass $40/100 = $.4

SMK $28/100 $.28

Primers $25/1000 $.025

Powder $20/lb $.147 @ 42 grains

.852 first round

.452 after first round.

Thanks for the very useful info. With savings like that I'm more motivated to start reloading and I'll get to shoot my 17S more, too. :)

I've been a big Dillon fan for decades, but which comparable brands would be a cheaper alternative?

stevied
06-11-2012, 9:54 AM
Thanks for the very useful info. With savings like that I'm more motivated to start reloading and I'll get to shoot my 17S more, too. :)

I've been a big Dillon fan for decades, but which comparable brands would be a cheaper alternative?

NP. You can tailor the round to your rifle as well which will be more accurate than any off the shelf ammo. Those prices are if you just buy the quantity listed too...If you start buying bulk powder and bullets you can bring the price down a little.

Hornady LNL press is a pretty good press for the price. Comparatively set up it will be almost half the price of a Dillon.

bomb_on_bus
06-11-2012, 7:41 PM
If you don't have brass
Federal Brass $40/100 = $.4

SMK $28/100 $.28

Primers $25/1000 $.025

Powder $20/lb $.147 @ 42 grains

.852 first round

.452 after first round.

Thats just for the ammo. The press, dies, case trimmer, chamfer deburring tool, powder measure, shell holder, priming unit, case cleaner/tumbler, case prep tools, and case lube can run as much as 1k for a decent set-up.

Reloading not only money but time too I found out. I can get some good FGMM 168 or 175 for under a dollar a round even better reloads from southwestammo on snipershide for even less.

So the up front cost is worth at least 1.25-1.5k in match grade ammo costs. After you make enough ammo to go past that mark then you start saving money but theres always that time spent rolling your own LOL.

Its worth it in the end as you will find what load your particular gun likes best that you may or may not find commercially.

gatesbox
06-11-2012, 7:52 PM
Cabellas is doing $5 shipping for fathers day, hearters for 7.99 per 20 and som other good deals. They charged me a bit for overweight last time I ordered ammo.

linkhttp://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Rifle-Ammunition|/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104532480/Herters-308-Winchester-Ammunition/1154496.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshoo ting-ammunition-rifle-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100190%2B4294759784%2FNe-4294759784%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104532480%3FWTz_l%3DUnknown%253Bcat10 4792580%253Bcat104691780%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WT z_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104792580%3Bcat104691780%3Bcat1 04532480

Mossy Man
06-11-2012, 8:41 PM
1986

g17owner
06-12-2012, 6:09 AM
That's not an apples to apples comparison. That's all surplus ammo above, which is not reloadable by most people and the Wideners stuff has to be de-linked. All Palmetto has in stock right now other than the PMC is match/hunting/self-defense ammo.

Where in the OP's original post does he say ANYTHING about reloading or not being surplus? Some people don't want to reload or don't want to take the time to learn due to space, time and learning curve. Shouldered rifle cartridges are NOT like reloading pistol rounds. That can be a big deal to those that don't want to get into that and just want a cheaper plinking round.

g17owner
06-12-2012, 6:36 AM
308 isn't a hard round to load for but depending on what gun you are using it in can be a more painstaking process. For example I load for it in my M1A and because of the design of the rifle and the ability of it to fire without the bolt being fully locked (assuming the safety bridge is cut the way SA has been doing it lately) you absolutely have to make sure you check EACH case and its headspace in a headspace gauge after sizing and when it is finished. If not you could have a 60,000 PSI grenade inches from your face. No only that but you also must trim to length and lube your cases before loading them. Here is an idea of my process:

1. Tumble cases in walnut media and capful of Nufinish
2. Remove cases and run through one quick pass of ultrasonic cleaning
3. Dry cases and separate by manufacturer
4. Lube cases
5. Deprime and resize cases
6. Check headspace and OAL in wilson gauge( if headspace is off brass is resized or tossed)
7. Trim to length
8. De-burr case mouth and clean primer pocket
9. Prime the case
10. Measure then drop appropriate powder charge
11. Seat projectile
12. Check overall length
13.*optional and only with cannelure* I lightly crimp my cases because the M1A is rough on them going into the chamber.
14. Re-check in Wilson cartridge headspace gauge.
15. Wipe down finished cartridge.

There is few other things I do like annealing or weighing each projectile but that is more for accuracy rather then function.

Equipment needed will be something like:
1. Single or turret press (deactivated)
2. Dies (2 or 3 dies set)
3. Primers
4. Powder
5. Scale
6. Powder metering device
7. Crimp die(optional)
8. Headspace gauge
9. Case trimmer
10. Primer pocket cleaner
11. Case mouth tool
12. Lube
13. Casings
14. Projectiles
15. Sturdy bench mounted to the floor or wall
16. Calipers
I hope this hasn't scared the OP off I just want him to get a real good understanding of what he is getting into if he does start to reload.

darksands
06-12-2012, 6:51 AM
I spent 500 on everything I needed to reload and would consider it a decent setup and less could be spent which will work just as well. Well worth it when you consider match grade ammo is close to $1.20 per round and a reload will be about 0.50 a round.

I will say that it takes time and patience to reload but having custom loads is worth it.

If you really want ammo at reasonable prices, I suggest investing in reloading if you care about accuracy in ammo. What pushed me into reloading is that I had some surplus I got for a good deal but couldn't hit the target consistently compared to the match ammo I shot which was sub-MOA out of the same rifle. I figured that if I wanted accurate ammo at decent prices I would have to reload them myself. At 0.50 a round vs. 1.00 per round, I would have made my money back in 1000 rounds and everything after that is money saved.

stevied
06-12-2012, 7:34 AM
Thats just for the ammo. The press, dies, case trimmer, chamfer deburring tool, powder measure, shell holder, priming unit, case cleaner/tumbler, case prep tools, and case lube can run as much as 1k for a decent set-up.

Reloading not only money but time too I found out. I can get some good FGMM 168 or 175 for under a dollar a round even better reloads from southwestammo on snipershide for even less.

So the up front cost is worth at least 1.25-1.5k in match grade ammo costs. After you make enough ammo to go past that mark then you start saving money but theres always that time spent rolling your own LOL.

Its worth it in the end as you will find what load your particular gun likes best that you may or may not find commercially.

You can get a decent setup for around $500. Of course you will find the weak points of your equipment and start upgrading and spending more. You don't want to start out reloading on a progressive press and single stages can be found at a good price. Once you have everything all you need is a different die set to reload a new caliber and you're set.

g17owner
06-12-2012, 8:55 AM
If cost is the main issue then I would go the lee route with the cast turret press http://www.midwayusa.com/product/785993/lee-4-hole-turret-press-with-auto-index-deluxe-kit and a few more items like case gauge, double disk riser and an 4 hole extra turret. But under $500 is doable. With this press you can also reload pistol fairly easy and not have to reset your dies every time like a single stage. My LNL still needs fine tweaking every time i swap out a die.

stilly
06-12-2012, 8:01 PM
Thanks for the very useful info. With savings like that I'm more motivated to start reloading and I'll get to shoot my 17S more, too. :)

I've been a big Dillon fan for decades, but which comparable brands would be a cheaper alternative?

Lee CLassic Turret with Auto Indexing is good to start or if you want a progressive I have heard a LOT of good things about the Hornady lock n load AP Progressive.

Richard Erichsen
06-12-2012, 9:29 PM
Wolf Perf Ammo (WPA) steel cased (granted, it's a bit harder on the extractor) performs as well as most surplus ammo and should work fine in just about anything. Like the surplus 7.62 NATO, the primers are hard. If you use it with rifles that have lighter hammer springs, you could get light hammer strikes/failure to fire. You can get this ammo in a lot of places at a price that is about 1/3 lower than just about everything else out there.

R