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bigd.45
05-16-2007, 12:06 AM
Just p/u a new PSS in 308, what scopes would you recommend for a newbee to long distance rifle shooting and I mean newbee.

ns3v3n
05-16-2007, 12:07 AM
alot of people like the super sniper, so see if you like that.

bwiese
05-16-2007, 12:09 AM
If you've got the money for a PSS, you've got the money for a decent Leupold, Valdada, Burris or Nikon scope.

bigd.45
05-16-2007, 12:14 AM
How hard is it to shoot and dial in a mil-dot ? The super snipers are more in my price range right now. By the way, I purchased the PSS for 400.00 NEW. Neighbor just recieved DUI a couple weeks back so he sold it to me for lawyer bills.

Jicko
05-16-2007, 12:17 AM
308 PSS for $400..... :drool5: does your neighbor have any more of those?

Get a Leupold Mark 4 PR or Mark 2 3-9x w/ Mil-dot, around $4xx, if you can't afford the $1000 Mark 4 MR/T or LR/T line of scopes.

Mil-dot is the way to go, imho..... very nice and easy to use (once you figured it out).... zero'ing it is just the same with it or any other crosshair.

ns3v3n
05-16-2007, 12:18 AM
How hard is it to shoot and dial in a mil-dot ? The super snipers are more in my price range right now. By the way, I purchased the PSS for 400.00 NEW. Neighbor just recieved DUI a couple weeks back so he sold it to me for lawyer bills.

seriously lol, i'll take one too if he got another one

jdberger
05-16-2007, 12:21 AM
Let's go drinking with the neighbor!





Just kidding, I know, it sucks - worst time of your life. I would never make light or seek to profit by another's misfortune.

bigd.45
05-16-2007, 12:33 AM
What do Ineed to figure out? All his guns are almost all gone, not sure what he has left. I ended up w/ quit a few though.:D

Prc329
05-16-2007, 7:14 AM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=58192

If it is still avalible that is a good price.

dfletcher
05-16-2007, 7:16 AM
308 PSS for $400..... :drool5: does your neighbor have any more of those?


And if he does can I buy him a beer?

Mize
05-16-2007, 7:46 AM
I put a tasco super sniper on my pss. Its a great scope for the money. Check out www.swfa.com

Prc329
05-16-2007, 7:52 AM
Not trying to be a d*ck but Tasco hasn't made the Super Sniper in over 10 years. It is made by Riflescopes now.

http://www.supersniper.com/Reviews/9-2.htm

ocabj
05-16-2007, 8:10 AM
Bushnell Elite 3200 10x Mildot - $200 retail, and even less with dealer discounts.

Better than the Super Sniper in my opinion. $100 more for the SS gets you a 30mm tube. $200 more for the SS gets you side focus. Personally, I don't think the 30mm tube or the side focus is worth the extra $100 and $200 respectively.

The only thing 30mm tube gets you is more adjustment, but the Bushnell 3200 Elite 10x has 90MOA on the elevation - so 45 up or down from factory center. This is more than enough for 1000 yards in .308, especially with a canted base.

As far as the side focus, there isn't really a need for it if you plan on shooting at 100 and beyond all the time. Once your reticle+image is focused appropriately for 100 yards, it's going to be the same focus setting beyond that, so there's no need for the side focus for 'easy' focus. The only reason I see anyone trying to use the side focus during shooting after the focus is already set is to try and check the mirage. But at that point, you should really be using your spotting scope for that.

Prc329
05-16-2007, 8:21 AM
Super sniper has about 152 elevation and 147 windage according to a review I read.

Jicko
05-16-2007, 8:31 AM
+1 on ocabj's recommendation if you can't afford the $4xx Leupolds.

IMO, I think Bushnell Elite 3200 10x Mildot is "clearer" than a SuperSniper. The SS may seems to be built more rugged, but in terms of clarity of the glass, I think both the Leupy and the Bushnell Elite are "clearer".


http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=58192

If it is still avalible that is a good price.

I don't personally think that's a good price. That particular model of SS is being sold @ $299 brand new, why do I want to pay $270 for a used one?

Prc329
05-16-2007, 8:35 AM
They seem to hold there value. I rarely see any used under $260. Usually $270 is where they are.

maxicon
05-16-2007, 9:22 AM
If you're not in a big hurry, it's always worth checking out SWFA's www.samplelist.com. They get a fair number of Super Snipers through there (there are several at $250 now), as well as other good scopes like Leupold, Burris, etc.

You have to keep an eye on it, though, as the best deals go quickly.

Since you're an optics noob, I'd recommend getting a variable power scope instead of fixed, since you don't really know what's going to work well for you yet. Fixed power is almost always better quality at a given price range, but you lose the flexibility. If you buy quality, you can always resell later at a minimal loss, or use it on a different rifle.

Samplelist has some factory refurb Nikon Monarchs for $250 (or $230 with ring marks) that sound like a good bet:

Nikon 4-12x40 Monarch UCC - 6545, Matte finish, niko plex reticle, 1" tube, adjustable objective (50yds-infinity), 1/4 moa finger adjustable windage and elevation, fast focus eye piece, like new condition, factory refurbished.

I've never used a Monarch, but they have a very good reputation.

supersonic
05-16-2007, 10:55 AM
alot of people like the super sniper, so see if you like that.

+1 on that. I have a $1700 Nightforce for my AR-30 .338LM, and I just purchased a $300 16x Super Sniper for my long range OLL build. Now, I'm not saying the S.S. is even in the same class as the N.F., but for that price: BUY IT NOW BEFORE THE PRICE GOES UP!!!!!! If they are good enough for the military, ......well, 'nuf said. I love mine!!!:)
S.S.

proraptor
05-16-2007, 2:15 PM
I love my super sniper 10X scope....I dont see any need to upgrade to any other scope....And yes Ive looked through a lot of high end scopes...The only scope I would even think about buying if my super sniper failed is a US optics.

Mute
05-16-2007, 3:27 PM
I love my super sniper 10X scope....I dont see any need to upgrade to any other scope....And yes Ive looked through a lot of high end scopes...The only scope I would even think about buying if my super sniper failed is a US optics.

Spoken like a true genius. :D

proraptor
05-16-2007, 3:31 PM
Spoken like a true genius. :D

You US optics scope is soooo freaking nice....I could never afford one though....I guess I can dream...

shark92651
05-16-2007, 4:28 PM
What do you guys know about the Mueller 3-10x44 TAC II? Based on some recommendations I bought a couple of these for resell. I plan on bringing one of them out to Angeles this Saturday to try it out.

Prc329
05-16-2007, 4:32 PM
You US optics scope is soooo freaking nice....I could never afford one though....I guess I can dream...

I was in the process of scrapping up cash for one when I bought my Super Snipers.

bigd.45
05-16-2007, 9:14 PM
Thanks guys for all advise, very much appreciated.:D