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ddindetroit
06-08-2012, 1:15 AM
I decided to write a quick post about the Accuracy International Rifle. It incorporates thoughts on the Artic Warfare and the Artic Warfare SuperMagnum and also the American Edition (AE).

When the late Malcolm Cooper (former Olympic rifle gold metal shooter) wanted to build a sniper rifle system for the British and Nato countries, he started from a clean slate and used his experience as a champion shooter to put together what he thought would work for military purposes. I took interest in this odd looking rifle when the British and some Nato countries did some initial test and evaluation trials of this rifle system before adopting it.

I acquired a few of the early models when they first come into the country. Many of the rifles that initial came into the US were brought in for purposes of 'T&E' by military units like the Marines and different LE agencies.

I have shot the Remington 700 system for many years. About 2 decades of shooting centerfire bolt rifles, I always seem to find myself going back to my Accuracy International rifles. Why I asked myself? Here is what I came up with:

1) The 'old school' ergonomics seems to fit me well.
2) Spacers allow for easy change for length of pull even for small people (kids)
3) Short bolt throw (and angle of unlocking at about 60 degrees)
4) Precision machining of the bolt -- feels like a well made European surgical instrument
5) Did I tell you they are extremely accurate and consistent (precise)? The round impacts are very repeatable as many can 'stack' the boolits on top of each other at distance.
6) THE Most reliable and most copied magazine system (Badger Ordinance and others have copied this system for most rifle systems including Rem 700 bottom metal)
7) Semi-Modular configuration -- you can change out your rifle barrel (even calibre in the AWSM) with an action wrench and barrel clamp.
8) Extremely robust action -- designed to take a fall and harsh environment without failures.
9) Positive extraction with claw type extractor
10) Did I tell you they are extremely accurate and consistent (precise)?


Features I particularly like are the 2.0 system with folding stock and adjustable cheekpiece and the Rigid squared unitized action that will sustain military drop tests yet still function and near zero repeatability (look at the AI sales person bounce the rifle in the enclosed video link).

In combination with a precise first focal plane high end scope like Schmidt and Bender, and this is the benchmark which other precision rifle/sniper systems aspire to match.



Here is the video and background that made me a believer about AI AW rifles about 15yrs ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQsI2WiIRpE&feature=related


Here is the video about the family of AI rifles (the big brother AWSM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRO7gKvcH4Q

Here is a story about the 1.57 mile shot with an AI AWSM: however, hollywood does not use the actual rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il43qkm7WMs



http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08896.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08894.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08892.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08889.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08866.jpg


10 Quick Precision Shots -- fast cycling and short lift ejection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQpXsYNDcOQ


Here is a commercial for Viper Skin, an alternative to the thumbhole stock and allows the option for shooters who prefer the pistol grip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=kG_t35stmfM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35qYte7x_q8

You won't find this rifle at your local store.
It's rare in most ranges.
But if you see one, strike up a conversation with the owner and learn more about this special precision rifle system. It's that special.

It's akin to the finest European/German surgical instruments - you can feel the difference. If you are in Hollywood -- it's just like your Ferrari (or as for me your M-BMW, AMG-Merk, or Mr. Porsche)

Thanks for reading this post.

DD

ddindetroit
06-08-2012, 1:36 AM
This is interesting reading:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/08/ultimate-sniper-rifle/all/1


I took this Tan (FDE) AI AE 308 2.0, placed a muzzlebrake on it and test fired some pulled 175gr SMK's (M118) and shoot a ragged hole of 5 rounds at 200 YARDS! (after dialing in the scope).

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08938.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08937.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08899.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08898.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08897.jpg

Good shooting! Just for humor and saving pennies: I'm known to take over other people's targets after they are done. Kind of like a hermit crab taking over discarded shells. I just patch up the targets and shoot these free targets. My pennies go to the rifles and the high velocity lead and components to feed them!

DD

m1match
06-08-2012, 11:34 AM
I couldn't agree more, here's mine:

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/tchangmo/DSC_0025.jpg

Since I took that picture, I sent the rear stock side section back to Michael Victor to get cut for the Accushot monopod.

The only thing I don't like is having to lug all that weight around in tactical competitions. Sometimes I'll take one of my lighter precision rifles for those.

QuarterBoreGunner
06-08-2012, 11:37 AM
An Accuracy International is on my short list of 'When I Win The Lottery' rifles...

along with a Walther 2000... just 'cause it's weird.

Black Majik
06-08-2012, 11:40 AM
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08866.jpg



I think I've seen this rifle around Angeles Range before. Were you also shooting off a Hog Saddle on a tripod?

laabstract
06-08-2012, 12:10 PM
Great write up!

ExtremeX
06-08-2012, 12:29 PM
Accuracy International... been on my list for a while. One of these days.

Ive been thinking of getting the AICS stock for a Remmy 700, but its just not the same as the real deal.

MXRider
06-08-2012, 12:35 PM
Nice, I am currently working on getting an AE MKIII rifle in dark earth. Hopefully the end of the month. :)

ddindetroit
06-11-2012, 2:16 AM
Hey M1a,

I have the exact rifle (your FDE AW 308 with the Victor Viper skin). How do you like how the company's routing of the rear panels to allow the accupod?

Love how yours looks. I'll post mine when I get the chance.

DD:D

I couldn't agree more, here's mine:

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/tchangmo/DSC_0025.jpg

Since I took that picture, I sent the rear stock side section back to Michael Victor to get cut for the Accushot monopod.

The only thing I don't like is having to lug all that weight around in tactical competitions. Sometimes I'll take one of my lighter precision rifles for those.

ddindetroit
06-11-2012, 2:19 AM
I think I've seen this rifle around Angeles Range before. Were you also shooting off a Hog Saddle on a tripod?

Yes Black Majik (fellow Sigforum member),

I have been spotted at Angeles shooting my AI's ...

Was I as 'handsome' as my avatar would portray? LOL!

DD

ExtremeX
06-11-2012, 8:10 AM
Let me ask you AI owners something...

Can you build a rifle just as impressive using the AICS chassis using a custom action and barrel or it the end product from AI better?

If so can it be done at a cheaper cost than what AI charges?

Palmetto State Armory
06-11-2012, 1:36 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/292675_10150685667937097_1851490322_n.jpg

:D:D

ddindetroit
06-11-2012, 6:13 PM
Let me ask you AI owners something...

Can you build a rifle just as impressive using the AICS chassis using a custom action and barrel or it the end product from AI better?

If so can it be done at a cheaper cost than what AI charges?


The answer is certainly YES! Folks like GAP and APA build awesome rifles and can match and even supercede what a factory AI AW/AWSM or AE can do ...

However, it will not have the coveted reputation that put AI on the map. It will not have the 'pedigree' to say that it was deployed 'in country' nor have the record of having the longest 'kill' shot in history.

So, yes, you can have the same high performance but won't have the lineage of owning an Accuracy International. I have several rifles that will outperform an AI -- but Malcolm Cooper did it right the first time and his rifles have a very loyal following.

Take care,

DD

ddindetroit
06-11-2012, 6:17 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/292675_10150685667937097_1851490322_n.jpg

:D:D


See you guys in SC have an unfair advantage. You get to shoot suppressed. Form 4's are just a tax stamp away ...

The only way we get to do that in 'country' ... in the great state of Kalif, is to shoot on a LE range or with active duty military. Really isn't fair ...

Lovely rifle BTW.

DD:)

The Right to Bear Arms
06-11-2012, 6:24 PM
DDinDetroit. Are you a Metro Detroit expatriate?

RBA

Mute
06-11-2012, 7:24 PM
Let me ask you AI owners something...

Can you build a rifle just as impressive using the AICS chassis using a custom action and barrel or it the end product from AI better?

If so can it be done at a cheaper cost than what AI charges?

Depends on what you mean by impressive. You can certainly build a more accurate rifle, but you're not likely to build one that's more reliable or durable. An it will, in most every case, be less expensive. Choose base on your priorities.

m1match
06-11-2012, 10:15 PM
I have a GAP Rem 700 action rifle and an AJ Brown built custom on an FN SPR action and the AI AW is the smoothest bolt action that I have. I polished the cocking cam surfaces on the bolt body and with the 60 degree bolt throw (Rem 700s, FN SPR/Win 70s have a 90 degree bolt throw), shooting this gun for multiple shots is smooth and almost effortless. Having said that the GAP rifle and the AJ Brown built FN are probably just as accurate for all practical purposes, but if I could have only one, I'd choose the AI AW.

DDindetroit, here's a picture of my Viperskin rear cut for the Accushot monopod, Michael did it for I think $45 and turned it around in a day- great customer service! It looks like it was made to fit the monopod.

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/tchangmo/Viperskinmonopod.jpg

yf19ex
06-11-2012, 10:42 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/yf19ex/Guns/20120226_092440.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/yf19ex/Guns/AIAEMK1target.jpg

The best rifle I probably own.

ddindetroit
06-11-2012, 11:43 PM
DDinDetroit. Are you a Metro Detroit expatriate?

RBA

Yes:D

DD:)

ddindetroit
06-11-2012, 11:45 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/yf19ex/Guns/20120226_092440.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/yf19ex/Guns/AIAEMK1target.jpg

The best rifle I probably own.

That's what I'm talking about -- man who has his priorities -- breakfast next to his shooting bench.

That's some great groups and a fellow handloader too!

Wow, I have not seen an old school MkI AE in a very long time. These are very very well made with great mating surfaces. I have one of these originals and run a second MkI 1.5 with a progressive twist Bartlein barrel. Best bang for the money from AI.

DD;)

Spyder
06-12-2012, 8:08 AM
Let me ask you AI owners something...

Can you build a rifle just as impressive using the AICS chassis using a custom action and barrel or it the end product from AI better?

If so can it be done at a cheaper cost than what AI charges?

Sure you can! ...but not sure it will wind up any more affordable. I've got a Surgeon action with Kreiger barrel, bedded in an AI 2.0 stock and an Atlas bipod, built by Lousiana Precision, that can shoot circles around most other rifles out there, if someone better than me is pulling the trigger! :D I decided not to add up the final cost of it, but it was a bunch, and if it wasn't such a sweet-*** rifle, I'd be regretting spending that much!

yf19ex
06-12-2012, 9:01 PM
That's what I'm talking about -- man who has his priorities -- breakfast next to his shooting bench.

That's some great groups and a fellow handloader too!

Wow, I have not seen an old school MkI AE in a very long time. These are very very well made with great mating surfaces. I have one of these originals and run a second MkI 1.5 with a progressive twist Bartlein barrel. Best bang for the money from AI.

DD;)

Thanks, I have been working up loads for when I finally venture past 200 yards for long range work. Been working with Lapua Cases, F210 Primer and Varget powder with 155 Scenars. I have run heavier bullets and other than 168g, this rifle does not appear to like 175g Sierra match kings. In fact it seems to like higher speed higher BC bullets like the Scenar better. So I have been tailoring the load for high speed instead of heavier round for long range.

It does love 155s. Those groups posted are not even my best. This rifle is capable of so much more than the shooter can do.

Its funny, my first precision rifle was a Savage 10FP with HS stock and SS scope. Solid rifle with good value as the whole thing cost me about 1k to set up. But I was not getting the consistent accuracy I wanted out of it. Then I fired a Sako TRG and found that I really wanted a high end out of the box factory precision rifle. The only real options seemed to be in the European Bolt guns. So happens the gentlemen who let me fire his Sako had a AE MK1 for sale and the rest was history.

tiger222
06-12-2012, 9:42 PM
AE is actually "accuracy enforcement" made for the LE market, not "american edition" ~ it's basically the AI Varminter, and though not as glamourous as the AW, it is a very nice rifle.
Yours is a very nice AE, though I do not like the 2.0's
Oh and the AI is the AW, same animal.
I'm a 1.0 man myself :)

ddindetroit
06-14-2012, 7:32 PM
AE is actually "accuracy enforcement" made for the LE market, not "american edition" ~ it's basically the AI Varminter, and though not as glamourous as the AW, it is a very nice rifle.
Yours is a very nice AE, though I do not like the 2.0's
Oh and the AI is the AW, same animal.
I'm a 1.0 man myself :)


You are correct Tiger -- AE now stands for Accuracy Enforcement.
However, if memory from 12yrs served me, it was originally called the 'American Edition' because a lot of law enforcement depts in the US could not afford the AW -- so this was made for the American Market. If I remember correctly, brochures even stated it was the 'American Edition.'

Guess the nomenclature has changed. Thanks for the correction. Appreciate accuracy ... Accuracy International that is ... LOL!


"AE/AE MkII (Accuracy Enforcement)

The Accuracy International AE was introduced in 2001 as a cheaper, somewhat simplified less sturdy version of the L96/AW series intended for law enforcement. It is not to be confused with the more expensive AWP or AW models intended for military use. The AE bolt-action differs from the larger more angular AW design. The round AE receiver is lighter compared to the AW models. The action of the AE is also not permanently bonded with epoxy material to the aluminium chassis and hence can be removed. Unlike the AW models, the AE can not be ordered in a left-handed configuration. The AE is fitted in 7.6251 mm NATO calibre and its barrel is 610 mm (24 in) long. In 2009 the AE was updated and is since marketed as the AE MkII.[20] The AE MkII rifle system uses AICS 5 and 10 round magazines has a removable trigger group, a screw adjustable cheekpiece. As options a 508 mm (20.0 in) barrel with muzzle brake or tactical suppressor mounting facilities and a folding chassis are available."

DD:D

23 Blast
06-15-2012, 11:10 AM
Man, stumbling into and reading this thread makes me feel like I stumbled into a meeting of Lamborghini owners and enthusiasts! :D :(

MrExel17
06-15-2012, 3:30 PM
Great read, and bada55 pix. Thanks for sharing!

ddindetroit
06-15-2012, 5:52 PM
Thanks, I have been working up loads for when I finally venture past 200 yards for long range work. Been working with Lapua Cases, F210 Primer and Varget powder with 155 Scenars. I have run heavier bullets and other than 168g, this rifle does not appear to like 175g Sierra match kings. In fact it seems to like higher speed higher BC bullets like the Scenar better. So I have been tailoring the load for high speed instead of heavier round for long range.

It does love 155s. Those groups posted are not even my best. This rifle is capable of so much more than the shooter can do.

Its funny, my first precision rifle was a Savage 10FP with HS stock and SS scope. Solid rifle with good value as the whole thing cost me about 1k to set up. But I was not getting the consistent accuracy I wanted out of it. Then I fired a Sako TRG and found that I really wanted a high end out of the box factory precision rifle. The only real options seemed to be in the European Bolt guns. So happens the gentlemen who let me fire his Sako had a AE MK1 for sale and the rest was history.

This is kind of funny. I sold one of my AI AE MkI to a gentleman in Kalif when I was in Michigan. Your rifle looks just like the one I sold him! Kind of circular if you catch my drift. Glad you are enjoying your AI. Please don't sell it.

DD:)

ddindetroit
06-15-2012, 5:54 PM
I have a GAP Rem 700 action rifle and an AJ Brown built custom on an FN SPR action and the AI AW is the smoothest bolt action that I have. I polished the cocking cam surfaces on the bolt body and with the 60 degree bolt throw (Rem 700s, FN SPR/Win 70s have a 90 degree bolt throw), shooting this gun for multiple shots is smooth and almost effortless. Having said that the GAP rifle and the AJ Brown built FN are probably just as accurate for all practical purposes, but if I could have only one, I'd choose the AI AW.

DDindetroit, here's a picture of my Viperskin rear cut for the Accushot monopod, Michael did it for I think $45 and turned it around in a day- great customer service! It looks like it was made to fit the monopod.

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/tchangmo/Viperskinmonopod.jpg


I am on the fence about the routing job on Victor's vipers skins to fit the monopod. It looks very functional but I'm not used to the aesthetics.

I do like the high dollar Spuhr mount use use to put our Schmitty glass on your AW. Very nice! Built in level!

I'm going to have to post some more pictures -- just don't have any shutter time with work ...

DD;)

yf19ex
06-15-2012, 11:19 PM
This is kind of funny. I sold one of my AI AE MkI to a gentleman in Kalif when I was in Michigan. Your rifle looks just like the one I sold him! Kind of circular if you catch my drift. Glad you are enjoying your AI. Please don't sell it.

DD:)

You never know. He bought it used himself before selling it to me...

ddindetroit
06-19-2012, 1:09 PM
This is my AW308 in it's current configuration: Victor Skin, IMUNS and Muzzlebrake.

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08945.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08940.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08944.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08939.jpg

DD:D

TreeHugger
06-19-2012, 1:33 PM
God damn, I would LOVE to have an AI in .338 for my collection!!!

ddindetroit
06-19-2012, 1:59 PM
Just damn, I would LOVE to have an AI in .338 for my collection!!!

Hugger,

I have an AI AWSM 338 package if you can collect your coins ...
Just let me know if you are serious.

DD:D

Caseless
06-19-2012, 2:17 PM
Darn, I still can't justify buying the AW using it only once a year, if only I live closer to the 1,000 yard range.:33:

TreeHugger
06-19-2012, 2:39 PM
Hugger,

I have an AI AWSM 338 package if you can collect your coins ...
Just let me know if you are serious.

DD:D

Sorry but I have already ordered a Larue Tactical 7.62, so the money is already spent :(

ddindetroit
06-19-2012, 3:08 PM
Darn, I still can't justify buying the AW using it only once a year, if only I live closer to the 1,000 yard range.:33:

There is nothing wrong with 'fondling' ... you don't always have to shoot her you know! LOL!

Just the fondling is worth the price of admission. Why do you think the gentleman's clubs are flourishing in this tough economy? LOL!

DD:D

ddindetroit
06-19-2012, 3:09 PM
Sorry but I have already ordered a Larue Tactical 7.62, so the money is already spent :(

Funny coincidence. I'm selling my Larue OBR to fund more AI stuff!

DD:)

Mute
06-19-2012, 8:22 PM
Funny coincidence. I'm selling my Larue OBR to fund more AI stuff!

DD:)

It's the AI addiction. Unfortunately, I'm suffering through it as well.

ddindetroit
06-20-2012, 12:27 PM
It's the AI addiction. Unfortunately, I'm suffering through it as well.

I just noticed that most of my Accuracy International shooters are in SoKal ...

What's up with that? Is it because of high per capita Hollywood Producers down there? What's your thought?

Any Northern Kal proud AI owners out there?

LOL!:)

DD:D

ddindetroit
06-20-2012, 6:36 PM
Man, stumbling into and reading this thread makes me feel like I stumbled into a meeting of Lamborghini owners and enthusiasts! :D :(

I would not call it stumbling, I'd call it an open invitation. You can pick and choose what threads to read and you chose to educate yourself.

Since AI is made in England -- I would suggest running into Aston Martin owners (not Lambo owners). For the truly exotic, it would be something like the Noble or even better the Ariel Atom -- just a superduper car.

Since AI is paired with Schmidt and Bender -- German; I would also say Merk, Bimmer and Porsha ...

Thanks,

DD;)

Mute
06-21-2012, 12:52 PM
I just noticed that most of my Accuracy International shooters are in SoKal ...

What's up with that? Is it because of high per capita Hollywood Producers down there? What's your thought?

Any Northern Kal proud AI owners out there?

LOL!:)

DD:D

Must be that cool and clean SoKal tap water.

ddindetroit
06-21-2012, 5:09 PM
I know SFO gets the water from Hetch Hetchie in the High Sierras.

Are you SoKal guys getting the water from the Colorado and the Sacramento River?

I thought the AI owners/Hollywood Producers drink Perrier, Glacial waters, or Iceberg water? LOL! So it can't be the tap water ...

In any event -- you have a lot of AI guys down south.

DD

Dhena81
06-21-2012, 7:54 PM
Threads like this make me want to get more into bolt guns but damn its expensive. I almost bought a S&B 3-20 with a horus reticle a couple of months ago that was about 4k but I wimped out because that would only be a 1/3 of the battle.

Pryde
06-21-2012, 8:18 PM
Can I play?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/sickeness/aiaea004.jpg

Old pic, has since been rebarreled and sports a 4-16 S&B

ddindetroit
06-21-2012, 10:33 PM
Threads like this make me want to get more into bolt guns but damn its expensive. I almost bought a S&B 3-20 with a horus reticle a couple of months ago that was about 4k but I wimped out because that would only be a 1/3 of the battle.

Yep, a lot of people have sipped this Kool Aid ...

Not everybody will like this.

I think if you have the patience, have a basic understanding of science and physics and -- here is the most important thing -- if you also like to handload -- high powered bolt rifle is very rewarding.

If you have ADD -- then it's hard. It requires a lot of patience and discipline.

You will not always have one 'ragged' hole groups or days. Sometimes your emotions get the best of you; sometimes, the atmospheric conditions nullify all your attempts.

But that's the beauty of the AI system. You cannot blame the rifle. It's all you -- the 'nut behind the trigger.'

Consistent, repeatable precision can be had with this system. That's why the AI Kool aid holds such a loyal following.

This particular thread (and other threads like it) just plants a little seed in your mind. One day it may germinate.

DD:D

ddindetroit
06-21-2012, 10:38 PM
Can I play?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/sickeness/aiaea004.jpg

Old pic, has since been rebarreled and sports a 4-16 S&B

Pryde -- love the Norman Rockwell-ish avatar of the old presidents.

What did you rebarrel your AI AE ...? Guessing a new Bartlein 5R barrel?

DD;)

ddindetroit
07-03-2012, 10:29 AM
I just took some pictures of a trio of AI's. I'll post them for people to enjoy.

DD:mnl:

ddindetroit
07-09-2012, 11:48 PM
I was lucky enough to obtain an AI system to practice -- it's in 223. Much more affordable and easy for little people to shoot. Keeps all the ergonomics we have learned to appreciate.

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08953.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08952.jpg

DD:D

ddindetroit
07-12-2012, 10:31 AM
Here are my two favorite "go two" AI's.

Primary -- black one
back up -- FDE one

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08946.jpg


DD:D

duc748bip
07-14-2012, 2:07 AM
What kind of improvement will I see of I drop my Remington 700SPS in to an AI stock? Other then a lighter wallet and a cool looking rifle.

ddindetroit
07-14-2012, 3:32 PM
Trio pose.

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08951.jpg

DD:D

ddindetroit
07-14-2012, 3:36 PM
What kind of improvement will I see of I drop my Remington 700SPS in to an AI stock? Other then a lighter wallet and a cool looking rifle.

Does anybody want to answer this?

It depends how you shoot this SPS in stock form. If you are getting 1/4 MOA, you are at the mechanical limits of the rifle and scope.

If you are more comfortable with an AI stock, you may shoot better. Ergonomics are important and I find I shoot very well with these ... it's my weird body I guess ...

The most important item to consider is the nut behind the trigger ... with that being said, the trigger and how you let off is absolutely the most important.

My suggestion is to try someone's AICS, AE or AW and test drive before plunking down the hard earned money.

Hope this helps. :)

DD:D

Waldo
07-15-2012, 8:30 AM
I think DD hit the nail on the head...give it a try first before committing to going that route.

The stock on my AWP fits me ok, but is an absolute deal breaker for one of my shooting buddies. Seems the thumbhole part of the stock doesn't fit him well enough to press the trigger correctly.

As Clint Smith is fond of saying, "We're all the same..but different"

DRM6000
07-15-2012, 12:00 PM
Slightly off topic, but I noticed you have a Bushnell HDMR. How do you like it? I'm deciding on a scope upgrade and the HDMR is one I'm considering. The other scope I'm thinking about is the Vortex PST.

ddindetroit
07-16-2012, 7:54 PM
Slightly off topic, but I noticed you have a Bushnell HDMR. How do you like it? I'm deciding on a scope upgrade and the HDMR is one I'm considering. The other scope I'm thinking about is the Vortex PST.

Yes it's off topic but still relevant to precision shooting.

THE HDMR is the hands down best deal out there. It keeps up with my Schmidt and Bender except at the highest power and at the longest distances. You cannot get more for less money.

I also have the Vortex HD and it's also excellent. However, it does not gather light as well at dusk compared to my high end scopes.

I think you will be pleased with the Bushnell HDMR if you don't need to have zero stops and illumination (a recent trend in bells and whistles).

I hope this helps.


DD:D

ddindetroit
07-19-2012, 4:37 PM
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08951.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/ddindetroit/DSC08950.jpg

DD:D

DRM6000
07-20-2012, 5:07 PM
Thanks for the info. I've decided on the HDMR. I have to wait a little though, maybe next month. I just bought an ACOG on impulse.

Yes it's off topic but still relevant to precision shooting.

He HDMR is the hands down best deal out there. It keeps up with my Schmidt and Bender except at the highest power and at the longest distances. You cannot get more for less money.

I also have the Vortex HD and it's also excellent. However, it does not gather light as well at dusk compared to my high end scopes.

I think you will be pleased with the Bushnell HDMR if you don't need to have zero stops and illumination (a recent trend in bells and whistles).

I hope this helps.


DD:D

ddindetroit
07-20-2012, 5:26 PM
Here is my AE MKIII .308
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/2012-07-19_17-30-16_142.jpg

That's nice. You should shoot some more pictures so we can all enjoy them!

DD:D

ddindetroit
01-09-2013, 11:47 AM
What are your opinion about getting an Accuracy International precision rifle system that has been deployed (with special forces) and that has seen action including confirmed 'hits' downrange. Would that be worth something to you?

Let me hear your opinions -- openly on this post or even in PMs for the discriminating posters.

DD

defcon
01-09-2013, 2:11 PM
id make a. 22LR clone out of it for $100 using a Savage MKII F :D

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8250932029_33f36a32f4_c.jpg

ddindetroit
01-09-2013, 3:33 PM
id make a. 22LR clone out of it for $100 using a Savage MKII F :D

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8250932029_33f36a32f4_c.jpg

That is really nice. It's one of the best jobs I've seen. Others have done it on the snipershide but yours is super duper nice!

Wish this was mine!:drool5:

DD;)