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B16
06-05-2012, 12:05 AM
I'm gearing to purchase a Sig P226 and have been researching what stuff to get. One thing that stood out were the different kind of mags that are available for the p226. I was wondering if you guys can tell me the differences and purposes of some of these mags.

1. Flat mag plate? Are these mags the stock ones that come with the P226?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/Forums/5579afea.jpg

2. Thicker, rubber base plate? When did Sig start shipping mags with this kind of base plate?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/Forums/bd7d90ef.jpg

3. What is the purpose of the lower part of the mag? The part where it separates into two?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/Forums/ddfc8414.jpg

4. Are these Mec-gar mags?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/Forums/114a17f4.jpg

How can you differentiate between factory Sig and Mec-gar mags? And is Mec-gar currently the offical producer of mags for Sig? I remember reading somewhere that Sig has Mec-gar making all the mags for them now.

Thanks for the help!

fullrearview
06-05-2012, 12:25 AM
None of my P226 mags look like those (Nor did the mags I had when I was at my last department). I have one Sig MecGar mag and two Sig Factory mags. My duty P226 was one of the last produced with the old style extractor.

It was said that the American made Sig mags sucked, which is why they outsourced. I my case, they have been flawless and actually fit better. When full, the mecgar mag wont drop freely. It swells and sticks in the mag well.

If I get a change, I will take a few photos and post them.

Having said that, if they all work, who cares!!!;)

paintballdad
06-05-2012, 12:28 AM
1. Looks like standard capacity (15 rd) mags. The original mags were German made zipper or dovetail mags. Some Sigs are currently being shipped with crappy Checkmate mags.

2. I believe those are standard capacity mags that were sourced from Mec-Gar. They are probably stamped "Made in Italy".

3. Reduced capacity (10 rd) German made factory Sig mags.

4. Reduced capacity (10 rd) Mec-Gar mags. Should be stamped "Made in Italy".

Mec-Gar mags are just as good as the German made Sig mags. Use it with confidence.
The current Checkmate Sig mags are garbage.

dfens
06-05-2012, 12:45 AM
They make it so confusing why can't Sig just pick a mag spec wise and stick to it.

1. Those are 15 rounders for the 9mm 226.

2. Those aren't rubber base plates they are plastic. At one time some mags could be ordered with flat rubber plates. I think those are 10 rounders for 40 SW/ .357 SIG.

3. Was the old 9mm 10 rounder. They designed it into 2 parts so that the mag body could not be modified to hold more than 10 rounds since that bottom part is solid.

4. Not sure haven't bought a new Sig recently but I think those are Mec-Gar 10 rounders they look similar to my P-99 mags.

All I know is in the past Mec-Gar was the company making the factory Mags for Sig they also make the factory mags for my Walther P-99 and many others. Great mags by the way.

tbhracing
06-05-2012, 12:54 AM
Nice thread. I have the Sig german flat mags. Will post some photos here tomorrows.

B16
06-05-2012, 1:11 AM
Thanks for the help Calgunners! Definitely going to check out what mags come with the Sig.

I'm reading up about the Checkmate mags and those are going to the ones I stay away from.

Do any Sig mags that hold 10rds have the following mag bodies?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/Forums/5579afea.jpg

I actually prefer the mags in (1) and (2) and any websites stock them?
I've checked out TopgunSupply and CDNN, but want to see if there are any other stores available.

WoodenGun
06-05-2012, 6:46 AM
Body for a 10 round mag is different than higher cap mags. Will try to post pictures later.

Sturnovik
06-05-2012, 7:14 AM
Mecgar, according to their website has changed the loom of there standard capacity mags. In any case I have a boatload of the old ones in the last picture. I pretty much only use old sig OEM, mecgar, although I do have 2 checkmates, they work fine. I just don't care for the finish, but 100 percent reliable.

paintballdad
06-05-2012, 7:18 AM
Thanks for the help Calgunners! Definitely going to check out what mags come with the Sig.

I'm reading up about the Checkmate mags and those are going to the ones I stay away from.

Do any Sig mags that hold 10rds have the following mag bodies?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/Forums/5579afea.jpg

I actually prefer the mags in (1) and (2) and any websites stock them?
I've checked out TopgunSupply and CDNN, but want to see if there are any other stores available.

No, those are 15 rd mags bodies. IIRC, the only 10 rd mag that closely resembles those were the SS Pachmyr mags which are no longer in production.

I believe the only way to acquire the German made Sigs mags/rebuild kits is to buy used. The 15 rd Mec-Gar made Sig mags might be available from Sig, TGS or a few online retailers. The Mec-Gar branded mags are only available in 10, 18 and 20 rd capacities and can usually be bought for less than the Sig branded mags.
Here's a link to the line up of current production Mec-Gar mags for Sig pistols...

http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/Sig-Sauer

Since what your looking for are mags with capacities greater than 10, you should read the sticky regarding the restrictions in California.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=387409

WoodenGun
06-05-2012, 8:10 AM
From top to bottom - 357/40 12 rounder - new body with old follower, spring and end cap. 357/40 12 rounder - old like early 1990's old. 9mm 15 rounder body made in 2012 with old internals. 9mm 10 round made in 2012. All are factory mags.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/tsproul1/8dc85d6a.jpg



Someone mentioned a dovetailed mag:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/tsproul1/11bd3977.jpg

Oldnoob
06-05-2012, 8:25 AM
I haven't seem the new Checkmate mag. Any one care to post a picture? All my 226 mags were dovetail mag or Mec gar.

paintballdad
06-05-2012, 10:25 AM
I believe the 3rd and 4th mag in post #10 are Checkmate mags.

unusedusername
06-05-2012, 12:56 PM
Checkmate mags are easy to tell because they are stamped "Made in USA" without a manufacturer name on them. I guess they don't want us knowing who made them :shrug:

Promags (which are also junk btw) are stamped "Promag made in USA".

The best ones in my opinion for 9mm are either the 10 rounders made by Sig (Image #4 of post #1) or the 18 round AFC MecGars, which you can get as rebuilds, but can not put together in this fine state unless you are repairing a bunch of P226 magazines you owned prior to 2000.

I try to avoid the ones with metal basepads as they sometimes have burs on them that make them sharp (ouch!).

B16
06-05-2012, 1:24 PM
Very helpful posts so far everyone. It's strange that there are so many variations of a P226 mags and still don't seem to have some consistency in one standard mag.

@Woodengun: The picture you posted, the mag that was is 10rd made in 2012, did you order that somewhere or did it come with a Sig?

And do dovetailed mags have less welds on them compared to the zigzag? I pulled up an image of a zigzag mag and it looked like someone took a flat nail and stamped the mag together.

SoulStealer
06-05-2012, 3:57 PM
Here are a few pics of the new mags. I have had no problems and have put about 400 rounds through them.
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i414/celalonde/0e19dd07.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i414/celalonde/99b9241b.jpg

WoodenGun
06-05-2012, 4:04 PM
@Woodengun: The picture you posted, the mag that was is 10rd made in 2012, did you order that somewhere or did it come with a Sig?


That came with a new P226.


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No Checkmate brand mags in my pics, unless they are now doing OEM for Sig. Some of the Sig mags do have the "made in USA" stamp without further markings. Other side is stamped SIG SAUER.....

Paperchasin
06-05-2012, 4:52 PM
Lots of pics and good info here. The confusion comes when you are mixing your different mags for different calibers. But as far as 9mm goes, the only mag I don't see is the MecGar 20-round Mag that has the Plus 2 base plate.

B16
06-05-2012, 5:06 PM
So it seems that the current factory produced mags offered by Sig is image (1) that I posted.

I checked TopGunSupply and SigSauerguns and both are showing those images. I also contacted a commercial seller here who says that he currently has the solid body mags with flat baseplate available to purchase.

I haven't done this much work trying to track down mags since researching about the difference between factory and Mec-gar Beretta mags.

tbhracing
06-05-2012, 5:43 PM
Here are my older hicap Sig factory zigzag mags. Hope they help out here. The one in the right is a Mecgar I think, non zig zag.http://img.tapatalk.com/b8087614-a7b3-621d.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/b8087614-a7c7-5a9f.jpg

bohoki
06-05-2012, 6:36 PM
i got a few old 226 9 mags

all 15 round german ones one is old i think came with my gun with is a vintage jj it has a slightly extended floorplate that has p226 stamped on it and asks as a pinky rest another one has the same body and has a shorter unmarked floorplate and another looks the same but doesnt say p226 on the body just sig sauer and has a little sss in a ring design and has a rubber bottomed floorplate

but if you really want to explore magazine upgrade versions glock wins hands down i think they are up to like 9 different variations on the glock 17 so far

paintballdad
06-05-2012, 6:45 PM
So it seems that the current factory produced mags offered by Sig is image (1) that I posted.

I checked TopGunSupply and SigSauerguns and both are showing those images. I also contacted a commercial seller here who says that he currently has the solid body mags with flat baseplate available to purchase.

I haven't done this much work trying to track down mags since researching about the difference between factory and Mec-gar Beretta mags.

It's really not all that difficult to figure out Sig factory mags.

Made in Germany=older Sig produced factory mag (usually dovetail or zipperback)

Made in Italy= Mec-Gar produced factory mags (solid seamless body)

Made in USA= Checkmate produced factory mags (i believe this might look like it has a seamless body).

Sig is in the process of switching OEM source from Mec-Gar to Checkmate. New pistols might ship with either Mec-Gar or Checkmate sourced mags depending on current supply. Eventually all new pistols with ship with Checkmates unless Sig changes their mind.

tbhracing
06-05-2012, 7:10 PM
^^^ Sounds like the mag quality is really going down?

paintballdad
06-05-2012, 7:20 PM
In my opinion, the Mec-Gars were of equal quality and reliability to the German made Sig mags. The Checkmates are a different story. The latest gen Checkmates have been better than the earlier ones but i still tend to stay away from them.

ckyrulez
06-06-2012, 7:44 PM
Just picked up my new 226 today and the two mags I got were stamped "Made in USA" so this leads me to believe they are made by Checkmate. I was intending to buy two additional mags from Mec-Gar anyways, but should I go ahead and buy four instead and just toss the Checkmate mags? I've heard mostly negative opinions about the Checkmate mags.

WoodenGun
06-06-2012, 7:51 PM
The sig mags that are "made in the usa" and likely Checkmates have been fine for me. No problems at all. Maybe 200 rounds through each mag (4 total that came with my 226).

paintballdad
06-06-2012, 7:56 PM
Just picked up my new 226 today and the two mags I got were stamped "Made in USA" so this leads me to believe they are made by Checkmate. I was intending to buy two additional mags from Mec-Gar anyways, but should I go ahead and buy four instead and just toss the Checkmate mags? I've heard mostly negative opinions about the Checkmate mags.

No harm in trying them out first. The newer gen Checkmates seem to work fine for most Sig owners.

B16
08-26-2012, 9:43 AM
I've had the opportunity to acquire quite a bit of Sig 226s and with it, came a bunch of mags.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/1AShow/gunfire/53babfde.jpg

The factory ones that shipped with the two stianless models are a blued, all metal design with a flat mag base. They are stamped "MADE IN USA" which I assume are made by Checkmate? I didn't fire those, but took my buddies 226 Dark Elite out to the range and we shot 125 rounds with his Made In USA mags with no problems at all.

When I purchased the Stainless from Yzernie, I also got some extra mags. I got one blued finish magazine and two rough textured magazines, kinda of a grayish finish on it.
What type of finish is that and the purpose? I had some Beretta mags that had that same kind of finish.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/1AShow/gunfire/2aacd9ef.jpg

And I also got some Mecgars. Five of them have the MEC-GAR name on them, but two of them just say Sig Sauer 9mm, which I assume are made by Mec-gar and provided to Sig Sauer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/rabbit4x/1AShow/gunfire/70cbd4cb.jpg

sprig
08-26-2012, 10:40 AM
So is the first line listed the best ones?