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jagergirll
06-01-2012, 10:03 PM
So I carry a 1911 A1 at work in a level two holster I had a couple of questions. I was wondering if something hit the firing pin while the hammer was still locked if it would set off the round? I am considering buying a level 3 to protect the firing pin not for retention.

Thanks

Press Check
06-01-2012, 10:09 PM
Possible, yes. Probable, no.

Some agencies require a barrier between the hammer and pin to prevent an AD, so the Serpa Level 3 would definitely resolve that issue.

CC Gunsmithing
06-01-2012, 10:11 PM
Many holsters for the 1911 have a strap and button closure that covers the firing pin in condition one carry... Why is something that close to your firearm is my question...

hermosabeach
06-01-2012, 10:36 PM
The colt 80 series has a firing pin block so that pressure must also be on the trigger.
I guess the next question should be, who made your gun and does it have a firing pin safety / block?

In total, the United States procured around 2.7 million M1911 and M1911A1 pistols in military contracts during its service life

CC Gunsmithing
06-01-2012, 10:56 PM
:troll:?

edwardm
06-02-2012, 2:59 AM
:troll:?

QFT.

Turbinator
06-02-2012, 7:15 AM
I guess the next question should be, who made your gun and does it have a firing pin safety / block?

Yup - who made your firearm, OP? And what exact model is it?

Turby

Chief-7700
06-02-2012, 7:46 AM
So I carry a 1911 A1 at work in a level two holster I had a couple of questions. I was wondering if something hit the firing pin while the hammer was still locked if it would set off the round? I am considering buying a level 3 to protect the firing pin not for retention.

Thanks

If you need to ask the questions above consider carrying different gun.

jagergirll
06-02-2012, 7:54 AM
It's a RIA 1911 A1. I am super comfortable with the gun I was just trying to find out what amount of pressure would be needed to set off a round.

CC Gunsmithing
06-02-2012, 7:55 AM
It's not just about the pressure, primers are impact sensitive, meaning you have to whack it pretty hard to get it to go off... Does the holster you carry in have a button closure over the firing pin in condition one?

Brandon04GT
06-02-2012, 8:05 AM
Not only that but since 1911's use intertial firing pins, that "something" hitting the back of the firing pin would basically have to be as thin as the firing pin itself for the primer to go off. It would have to strike the back of the firing pin and go slightly through the hole in the firing pin stop.

Anotherwards, if you had your hammer uncocked and you kept pounding the back of the hammer with something, it would be unlikely to set the primer off. The 1911 firing pin is never in contact with the hammer and the round's primer at the exact same time.

CC Gunsmithing
06-02-2012, 8:12 AM
what he said, inertial, it's held back by a spring, so something has to fit between the extractor and opposite side of the slide, and strike the pin hard enough to send it forward hard enough to detonate the primer... Again, if the holster is made for a 1911, there should be a strap that covers the firing pin...

Brandon04GT
06-02-2012, 8:16 AM
I love 1911s :tt1:

CC Gunsmithing
06-02-2012, 8:18 AM
I'm kinda partial to them myself, Here's one I built...
http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb344/CCGunsmithing/100_0777.jpg

Brandon04GT
06-02-2012, 8:24 AM
Very cool....I don't really have the resources or know-how to build my own yet but hopefully I can not too many years from now.

Mongoblack23
06-02-2012, 9:01 AM
you have to whack it pretty hard to get it to go off...

:shifty::rofl2:

(sorry, i had too)

but yeah, the pic is inertia driven, you would have to have something small moving incredible fast (think how fast the hammer moves) hit at that exact point. while theoretically possible, it is incredible unlikely.

CC Gunsmithing
06-02-2012, 9:24 AM
^^ :kest:

fanof1911forlife
06-02-2012, 9:36 AM
So I carry a 1911 A1 at work in a level two holster I had a couple of questions. I was wondering if something hit the firing pin while the hammer was still locked if it would set off the round? I am considering buying a level 3 to protect the firing pin not for retention.

Thanks

I believe an 80-series 1911 have a firing pin stop that was designed to prevent this sort of AD. 70-series 1911s don't have this mechanism but a condition 2 carry should not create an AD if the hammer is accidentally bumped. AD is possible if you intentionally drop the pistol in such a manner that it hits the ground with a direct contact on the hammer or slam the gun's hammer with a blunt object.

jagergirll
06-02-2012, 11:32 AM
The firing pin is real easy to hit on this pistol. I was just curious because I got into a scuffle a couple of days ago and was just wondering what would happen if it got bumped or pressed at a medium to lower force is all.

CC Gunsmithing
06-02-2012, 2:37 PM
Sounds like you have the wrong holster... All the 1911 holsters I've seen have a strap and button closure that covers the firing pin, when you carry the firearm condition one... Hammer back, hot chamber, weapon on safe... What kind of holster do you have? Here is an example of 1911 holsters...
note the strap covering the firing pin:
http://www.desantisholster.com/store/SEARCH-BY-GUN-MANUFACTURER/COLT/GOVERNMENT-MODEL-45cal/BELT-HOLSTERS/Cocked--Locked-Thumb-Break-Scabbard

Press Check
06-02-2012, 3:02 PM
The firing pin is real easy to hit on this pistol. I was just curious because I got into a scuffle a couple of days ago and was just wondering what would happen if it got bumped or pressed at a medium to lower force is all.

Bumped with what, a ball-peen hammer? Exactly what do you do for a living? :confused: