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vantec08
06-01-2012, 4:22 AM
http://www.examiner.com/article/atf-trace-reports-refute-bloomberg-s-iron-pipeline-raise-gunwalker-question


"A case in point is illustrated in the report for New York, a state with strict gun laws ranked #4 in the nation by the Brady campaign. Mayor Michael Bloomberg is constantly decrying gun laws in other states in an attempt to bring all in line with New York City’s restrictive edicts, and using “flow of guns/iron pipeline” rhetoric to do it. Yet the “time-to-crime” documented in the ATF report shows a New York average of 13.70 years, as opposed to a national average of 11.20 years, suggesting “iron trickle” would be a more appropriate."

Sorry bloomy - you lose

mhho
06-01-2012, 5:37 AM
"Yet the “time-to-crime” documented in the ATF report shows a New York average of 13.70 years, as opposed to a national average of 11.20 years, suggesting “iron trickle” would be a more appropriate."

Sorry bloomy - you lose

+1. Good job on the facts. But hey, let's not get the facts in the way of a good propaganda campaign now...

jrr
06-01-2012, 10:04 AM
yeah.. in the era of canned speeches to docile and friendly crowds, these kinds of facts wont stop the rhetoric. If they were thrown in his face in an open debate, that would be awesome. Sadly, bloomy would never allow such a thing to happen.

RazzB7
06-01-2012, 10:09 AM
Interesting that the ATF left the "time-to-crime" statistic out for Mexico. Fast and Furious anyone?

huntercf
06-01-2012, 10:23 AM
Since when does Bloomidiot actually listen to reason or facts. He could care less about the truth.

Untamed1972
06-01-2012, 10:49 AM
I could see the anti's then trying to spin this and say "see.....strict gun laws do work....the time-to-crime rate is longer in states with stricter gun laws. (Never mind the fact that we've been basically claming the oppisite for years now)"

vantec08
06-01-2012, 11:34 AM
Interesting that the ATF left the "time-to-crime" statistic out for Mexico. Fast and Furious anyone?


Bada bing, bada boom!