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PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 6:12 PM
Yes, she's a Mosin 91/30. Whacked 4.5 inches off her barrel. The rest you can pretty much see for yourself. I love her so much...

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t470/PoorRIchRichard/9e58adf4.jpg

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t470/PoorRIchRichard/b00e49b3.jpg

ParanoidCivilian
05-31-2012, 6:16 PM
Ugly is right.

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 6:19 PM
Hey kiss my gritts Mister! That's my lady yer talkin' 'bout!

MakeYaBootyBurn
05-31-2012, 6:24 PM
Interesting!! What did you use to re-crown the barrel?

LNTT
05-31-2012, 6:24 PM
Your username speaks for itself... that scope mount O_O

P.W.
05-31-2012, 6:24 PM
Hows she shoot ? Any plans on letting her stretch her legs out on some Hogs ?

Peter.Steele
05-31-2012, 6:33 PM
That used to be a really nice laminated stock.

Best things I can say about it are:

(1) At least it wasn't a hex or an M91 or something

and

(2) Thanks for making mine just that little bit rarer.

S470FM
05-31-2012, 6:39 PM
hey, beauty is in the eyes of the beerholder.

MakeYaBootyBurn
05-31-2012, 6:46 PM
That used to be a really nice laminated stock.

Best things I can say about it are:

(1) At least it wasn't a hex or an M91 or something

and

(2) Thanks for making mine just that little bit rarer.

With 37 million built its not rare at all. Lol not even my 1926.

aklover_91
05-31-2012, 6:50 PM
With 37 million built its not rare at all. Lol not even my 1926.

That's what they said about Enfields and 1903's and K98k's and Garands and etc.

They're only cheap guns because production was payed for years ago and they're still coming in. When they dry up, they'll go for every bit as much as all the other milsurps.

They're already starting to. When I bought my M44 it was $60 for an M44, an M91, an M38, or an M91/30. Go take a gander at what M44's go for now.

bob7122
05-31-2012, 6:53 PM
bubba is happy, but i am sad...

good job though!

Beetle Bailey
05-31-2012, 6:55 PM
Your scout mount is sitting on top of your rear sight? What mount is that? And is the rear sight still usable in that configuration? For that matter, how is your cheekweld with the optic mounted so high?

MakeYaBootyBurn
05-31-2012, 6:57 PM
That's what they said about Enfields and 1903's and K98k's and Garands and etc.

They're only cheap guns because production was payed for years ago and they're still coming in. When they dry up, they'll go for every bit as much as all the other milsurps.

They're already starting to. When I bought my M44 it was $60 for an M44, an M91, an M38, or an M91/30. Go take a gander at what M44's go for now.

Enfields 17 million plus built, M1 Garand 6.5 million built, Kar 98K let's say 14.7 million built. Kinda not close to 37 million. I'm sure it will dry up, over time. But it doesn't make it any more rare. Or rarer?! Lol

DJ Skillz
05-31-2012, 7:00 PM
Looks good to me. The way I see it, it's your rifle, do whatever the hell you want with it.

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 7:09 PM
WOW! I knew the purist would be all up in arms over her, but crap, that was much faster than I expected. The original stock was a super common '43 Russian. I actually traded this one for it foom a nice young man from TFL in NY. This gun was a 99$ BiG 5 beater, which was also purchased with a much nicer M91/30 which I have kept (and will keep) all original (to appease the purists of course).

Interesting!! What did you use to re-crown the barrel?

No idea what was used it recrowning her. Paid my gunsmith to do it.

Hows she shoot ? Any plans on letting her stretch her legs out on some Hogs ? Yes! Thinking about taking her, or my all original Russian SKS (no Bubba for all you C&R Nazis) to that place in Mo Val off the 60. Love to go up north, but don't have the funds right now. And thanks for the tasteful comment LLNT- the mount works great because I actually listened to the guys a BrassStacker and installed per their instructions. Only shot is once so far at 50 yards:

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t470/PoorRIchRichard/a830f404.jpg

The three shot in the circle were the first three shooting right handed (how I normally shoot), and was so impressed whith it that I shoot the last two rounds in the mag left handed... And ruined a pretty good group. Looking forward to taking it to another range soon with 200 yard field.

ocabj
05-31-2012, 7:12 PM
Why not just get an M38 instead of cutting down the M91?

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 7:17 PM
Your scout mount is sitting on top of your rear sight? What mount is that? And is the rear sight still usable in that configuration? For that matter, how is your cheekweld with the optic mounted so high?
yes- i can and do still use OG sights
BrassStacker.com
cheekweld- not gonna lie- very weird at first. Getting used to it. Might invest in in some type of riser in near future.

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 7:20 PM
Why not just get an M38 instead of cutting down the M91?
very good question- cost. All told I've less then $300 total invested in this gun (scope/mount included) And it's been really fun watching it come together:)

G-Man WC
05-31-2012, 7:28 PM
:no:
That can't be very comfortable to shoot for any lenght of time with your scope at twice high ring height. That's got to hurt the neck and that mount will put your eye out.
Kudo's for doing your own work but you have reached the pinnacle of bubbadom on that
poor Mosin sir. Congrats ... I think.
-g

tdyoung1958
05-31-2012, 8:13 PM
I have one that had been "Bubba Richard'd" that I bought a while back with a stock like that for $49. Got a true M38 stock fro $40 and if it hadn't been for the '03 springfield front sight that was on it, looked like a true M38

Pete1979
05-31-2012, 8:30 PM
WOW! I knew the purist would be all up in arms over her, but crap, that was much faster than I expected. The original stock was a super common '43 Russian. I actually traded this one for it from a nice young man from TFL in NY. This gun was a 99$ BiG 5 beater, which was also purchased with a much nicer M91/30 which I have kept (and will keep) all original (to appease the purists of course).



No idea what was used it recrowning her. Paid my gunsmith to do it.

Yes! Thinking about taking her, or my all original Russian SKS (no Bubba for all you C&R Nazis) to that place in Mo Val of the 60. Love to go up north, but done have the funds right now. And thanks for the tasteful comment LLNT- the mount actually works great because I actually listened to the guys a BrassStacker and installed per their instructions. Only shot is once so far at 50 yards:

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t470/PoorRIchRichard/a830f404.jpg

The three shot in the circle were the first three shooting right handed (how I normally shoot), and was so impressed whith it that I shoot the last two rounds in the mag left handed... And ruined a pretty good group. Looking forward to taking it to another range soon with 200 yard field.

Nice job, if it makes you happy and shoots good then congratulations. Round receiver 91/30s are going to be around for years to come. I have a rough one that shot like crap (.314 bore and full of tool marks) so I transformed it into something I liked a lot better.
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w486/jacktripper7/002.jpg

mdib870
05-31-2012, 8:36 PM
I've seen this before i own one thats almost the same exact thing carbine style except mine dosent have the gay front or rear sight

ocabj
05-31-2012, 9:16 PM
very good question- cost. All told I've less then $300 total invested in this gun (scope/mount included) And it's been really fun watching It come together:)

M38s are only a little bit more than M91/30s, right?

I sold a pair a few years ago and it actually took quite some time to get rid of them at $100 a piece. They were really great condition, too (imported by Aztec Arms out of Ocala, FL).

MrPlink
05-31-2012, 9:23 PM
Post this in the CnR forum, they LOVE stuff like this :p

Fate
05-31-2012, 10:13 PM
M38s are only a little bit more than M91/30s, right?

I sold a pair a few years ago and it actually took quite some time to get rid of them at $100 a piece. They were really great condition, too (imported by Aztec Arms out of Ocala, FL).

M38s are much more prized and valuable than 91/30s. Today you could sell each of those carbines in under a day for 3 times the money you got back then.

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 11:22 PM
Sorry, read next post.

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 11:23 PM
G-Man WC-not really, I only need one shot- and have been training for that one shot. I find it very cool to sit back and with the knowledge (and original mindset) that I can peg 'yotes at the short range of of 100-175 yards with this rifle. My original intent for this build was a varmint sniper with a short range of 200-100 yards- negating the use of a shotgun for aforementioned 100- 175 yard shots.

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 11:40 PM
Nice job, if it makes you happy and shoots good then congratulations. Round receiver 91/30s are going to be around for years to come. I have a rough one that shot like crap (.314 bore and full of tool marks) so I transformed it into something I liked a lot better. SEE RAD PIC ABOVE!!!^^^ That lamp is RAD!!!

PoorRichRichard
05-31-2012, 11:44 PM
Post this in the CnR forum, they LOVE stuff like this
Don't ya think I've encountered enough resentment here? Sadist bastard...

Chaos47
06-01-2012, 1:01 AM
Don't ya think I've encountered enough resentment here? Sadist bastard...

Nope heres some more :p

ugh :facepalm: :D

TNP'R
06-01-2012, 6:23 AM
Meh, cool if you like it but me i'd rather keep it original.

sd_shooter
06-01-2012, 6:36 AM
I'd love her even more if you put on an ATI stock and tapped the receiver for a real scope mount, bent the bolt. JMO.

TwinStick
06-01-2012, 9:31 AM
Yes, she's a Mosin 91/30. Whacked 4.5 inches off her barrel

Or another way to say it would be that you "whacked off 4.5 inches". That's not something you should talk about here though.

PoorRichRichard
06-01-2012, 9:35 AM
I'd love her even more if you put on an ATI stock and tapped the receiver for a real scope mount, bent the bolt. JMO.
. Been thinking about getting another and doing this. These old guns are way to much fun...

Vacaville
06-01-2012, 9:36 AM
I think it looks nice. My only issue is how functional the scope is at that height.

PoorRichRichard
06-01-2012, 9:38 AM
Or another way to say it would be that you "whacked off 4.5 inches". That's not something you should talk about here though. HA! This I why I love CalGuns so much! Can't believe I didn't catch that one as I wrote it. Thanx for the laugh:D

em9sredbeam
06-01-2012, 9:38 AM
If you are happy with it, then that is great and that is all that matters. Its not like its a rare gun and a piece of history is gone. Ignore all the flamers and purists, its a free country......cough cough..

PoorRichRichard
06-01-2012, 9:40 AM
I think it looks nice. My only issue is how functional the scope is at that height. Again, it's taking some getting used to, but I dig it so far.

sd_shooter
06-01-2012, 9:47 AM
This is what I'm talking about:

http://www.kingdomarms.com/store/images/_products/ATI-MosinNagantBlackStock.jpg

Might as well go all the way.

SdBoltz
06-01-2012, 10:45 AM
First off I'd say "to each his own." Good job with what you did and I hope you like the outcome.

That said... simply in my opinion that scope mount looks.. umm.. "interesting." I understand you still use the stock sights.. but for a $100.00 for the rifle I would have simply purchased 2... one to go "full sniper" and 1 for Iron sights.

That stock however is sexy.. with the time and money you invested I would axe the iron sights and stick with the scope and get rid of the ghastly scope mount. Sadly its a great looking weapon, but that scope mount steals the show... in a bad way IMO. :shrug:

chillincody
06-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Not to bad looking man :) I like ,,,,,but if thats the aim scope mount you might want to upgrade the aim mount I had use to move after every shot I was always re zeroing it :(

PoorRichRichard
06-01-2012, 11:32 AM
That said... simply in my opinion that scope mount looks.. umm.. "interesting." I understand you still use the stock sights.. but for a $100.00 for the rifle I would have simply purchased 2... one to go "full sniper" and 1 for Iron sights.

That's actually what I did. I have another completely untouched which I bought at the same time.

6mmintl
06-01-2012, 2:30 PM
stop loitering on the 50 yard line

marathonman
06-01-2012, 2:54 PM
Hey! There is no place to mount the conscript stabber!

Peter.Steele
06-01-2012, 6:15 PM
Don't ya think I've encountered enough resentment here? Sadist bastard...


No, actually, I really don't.


You really ought to have looked into the JMECKS mount. It (a) puts the scope at more or less the right height to maintain a proper cheek weld, (b) has a see-through version so you can still use the irons, (c) doesn't require modification beyond a very small amount of wood removal that's almost invisible if you take the mount off, and (d) will actually hold zero, which I suspect the mount you have on there won't do.

Of course, it'll be a tossup as to whether your wandering zero will be from a cheap scope, a really terrible mount, or a completely unsupported very thin barrel that will be a little flexy after a few shots ...

gun toting monkeyboy
06-01-2012, 8:16 PM
And yay, she was not beaten with the ugly stick. Nor did the ugly tree fall upon her. She tumbled violently through the ugly forest.

At least you didn't post this abomination in the C&R forum, so we can all be greatful for that. No offense, or even Bubba comments, but what they heck were you thinking? Do you need a pad to rest your chin on when you go to look through the scope? You could have just gone with one of the mounts that replaces the rear sight leaf, and used a long eye relief scope. They you could have rested your cheek on the stock instead of your chin. As far as sporterizations go, aside from that mount, the rest doesn't look too bad. A waste, in my opinion, but still better than most hacksaw jobs.

-Mb