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hsiehjohn
05-27-2012, 8:17 PM
Just got back from the range today to test out my new SPS Tactical, shot about 100 rounds. Its a decent rifle but I think its over priced for what you get out of the box. They gave the trigger a fancy name, but its still god awful at 4.5 lbs. The only thing you can do is to replace it with a Timney.

Compared to my Tikka I would have to say that the SPS is an inferior product when comparing them without any modifications. The Tikka T3 Lite is $100 less, the action is as smooth as butter, and the trigger is adjustable down to 2lbs.

They both have their purposes. If you have extra money to spend on a rifle to make it look cool, the Rem 700 is the one for you. If you want a rifle to perform right out of the box, the Tikka is the one for you.

MakeYaBootyBurn
05-27-2012, 8:34 PM
Why did you buy in .223? Why not .308? That's the real performance!

steve92407
05-27-2012, 9:33 PM
Get the jewell drop in trigger 1.5 to 4 pounds.You will not be disappointed.

DirtRacer151
05-28-2012, 7:31 AM
All of my Tikkas have been awesome out of the box. Nothing compares. I've seen plenty of factory 700s with only a trigger swap shoot 1/2" groups though.

tacksman
05-28-2012, 9:13 AM
Your right. Crap rifle. I'll take it off your hands. :)

a1fabweld
05-28-2012, 9:22 AM
Either have a local GS do a trigger job for your (cheap) or buy a drop-in replacement. I shot quite a few long range maches with my Rem 700 in 308 with a factory adjusted trigger. Seemed to work just fine. I have an almost NIB Jewell trigger for the R700 that I'd consider selling if you're interested.

RuggedJay
05-28-2012, 10:14 AM
Its not so much what it is, which is pretty decent for what it is, but what it can become. Maybe the reason you dont like it is cuz you got spoiled with the Tikka.

Magix
05-28-2012, 10:16 AM
I have one in 223 and love it. Fun and cheaper to shoot than 308 for me. Just personal preference.

cfusionpm
05-28-2012, 11:40 AM
I don't know if the .223 is different, but it should have the X-Mark trigger found on all recent 700s, especially the SPS tactical. If it's like my SPS Tac (.308), you can adjust it with the allen wrench they provide and dial it back. Mine is all the way down and breaks a clean, crisp ~2lbs. It's like a feather and I love it.

I've gotten pretty good results out of mine, even with the crappy factory Hogue stock and my ham-fisted shooting.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7596/20120402124030635edit.jpg

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r8dr rider
05-28-2012, 2:59 PM
Yeah 223 is the problem here. Return it and get a 308.

bombadillo
05-28-2012, 3:15 PM
Why did you buy in .223? Why not .308? That's the real performance!

No way, with the right factory ammo I've seen them punch 1/2" groups all day. Just a bad day from the shooter, wrong ammo, bad barrel, unstable rest, or something happened in the mix. Could be a combo of all the above and crosswind.

toby
05-28-2012, 3:32 PM
Well now you know why they make soooooo many after market parts for those.......:whistling:

ZX-10R
05-28-2012, 5:01 PM
Out of the box the .308 SPS is .5 MOA...XR 100 which was a Remy rifle I had in .223 was .5 MOA as s single bolt shot bolt action...Could be you?:rolleyes: Very few guns are outshot by their owners.

bombadillo
05-28-2012, 5:56 PM
Sell it and buy a Mossberg MVP. $519 shipped at budsgunshop.com or grabagun.com and they're shooting sub MOA with cheap V-Max reloads from just about anyone. I've tried 3 now and for 42cents per round, its a great match gun. I was next to a guy with a 700 XCR and with a bipod and bag (both of us had the same setup) he was shooting fist sized groups and thought he was the shiz till I smoked his groups with my cheapo $479 gun. The gun has gone up in popularity and therefore the price is going up with it, but its basically a savage copy of the trigger, and a 4x4 Mossberg action with fluted bolt, fluted medium bull barrel. Bench style stock on the 24" gun and LOVES 55gr rounds of all kinds. Even PMC was under an inch consistently.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/calguns%20and%20other/IMAG0604.jpg
55gr V-Max BVAC reloads

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/calguns%20and%20other/IMAG0602.jpg
PMC 55gr FMJ

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/calguns%20and%20other/IMAG0511.jpg

And the beast herself with a really high end Truglo Infinity 6-24x44 :p that cost a whopping $69.99 at Natchez with fine target hairs.

I've got a grand total of $598 including optics and DROS in this thing and it shoots 1/2" I had cheap high weaver rings that I slapped on there one day and left it at that. It wears a harris bipod but I move that from gun to gun, or you could buy a caldwell for $19.99 on sale at midwayusa.com too. Good luck either way if you decide to modify, change loads, or sell it.

mixicus
05-28-2012, 6:05 PM
Tikka does make a nice product that unfortunately gets a second child reputation compared to the 700.

As for the trigger, you can certainly replace the trigger in the 700 with a Jewell or Timney. But the Remington Mark-X (current generation) trigger is user adjustable from about 1.5 to 5.5 lbs without any disassembly by turning a single Allen screw.

How was the size of the groups between the two? Do any load development? Try different ammo?