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robojet
05-24-2012, 6:59 PM
Sorry folks, total newbie looking for advice and this is my first post :o

I am looking to purchase a shotgun for home defense. It will also go to the range with me occasionally. I'm comfortable with my decision making on handguns and rifles... but with shotguns... I need all the help I can get. So, in my recent lurking on CalGuns.net (I've been a lurker for some time), it seems the popular choice is either the Remington 870 Express Tactical or the Mossberg 500. So I started looking at the specs and found a bunch of Mossberg 500 models. I had no idea! So, here I am thinking I've narrowed it down to 2 possibilities, it was really more like 30! Now, I know some of those could be thrown out of the mix right away... but still.

So, which of the Mossberg 500 models should I be considering? I do like the 'door busting muzzle' and certainly looking at the 18"/18.5" barrel length. Pistol grip is interesting, but not sure how that is practical or if it makes firing easier/more difficult.

Any advice? THANKS!

Mossy Man
05-24-2012, 7:10 PM
Tip #1

For the most part, a traditional rifle stock is better than a pistol grip with stock. A pistol grip only is practically useless IMO unless you're breaching doors.

Coming from a Mossberg 590 owner, I have this to say:

If its mainly for HD, just buy a cheap Big 5 clone shotgun.

Examples are the Stevens 350 Shotgun (Ithaca 37 clone, which is good because it's also got a nice bottom-eject if you want an ambi gun), H&R Pardner (870 clone), Hawk Interstate 982 (another 870 clone), Maverick 88 (Mossberg 500 with crossbar safety....made by mossberg)

These can all be had for under or around $200, are very suitable for home defense, have a long model-history of service, and are all made out of heavy steel and will last a long time.

you can get a Maverick 88 8-shot (7+1) for $219 at big5 right now

http://big5sportinggoods.shoplocal.com/big5/Default.aspx?action=browsepagedetail&storeid=2504019&rapid=1633316&listingid=-2068741364&pretailerid=-98565

you can also get the stevens 320 5-shot (4+1) with ghost ring sights and a PG/stock for $259 (this appears to be a win1300 clone)

http://big5sportinggoods.shoplocal.com/big5/Default.aspx?action=browsepagedetail&storeid=2504019&rapid=1633316&listingid=-2068741325&pretailerid=-98565

And these aren't even the best deals i've seen

a lot of these clones can accept most of the accessories for the shotguns they copy, also.

epcii
05-24-2012, 7:45 PM
If you want a "doorbuster", Bud's has the Cruiser model for $289 shipped right now. Shooting it straight is easy. All you have to do is raise it to your eyeline. I know people shoot it from the hip in movies, but...that's Hollywood. If you want a butter-smooth action, beater shotgun, look for an old Winchester 1300. I got mine for $170 and it's something I'll never get rid of.

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 7:51 PM
i'd say the 500A tactical model #50588 but with a full stock.

robojet
05-24-2012, 8:23 PM
Thanks for the quick responses! I went looking for the tactical model suggested by stuch77, my head is still swimming looking at the models and I'll continue looking with fresh eyes tomorrow... but I did see this: MOSSBERG 500 ''THUNDER RANCH'' SHOTGUN, 12G, 18", 6 SHOT. This got away from the pistol grip that seems may not be the practical choice, but had that door buster that I think could be useful. Am I heading in the right direction?

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 8:31 PM
try flex 500 tactical cruiser #50673

robojet
05-24-2012, 8:38 PM
I just now found the 500As you mentioned. Also looked up 50673, but that's a pistol grip. You mentioned going full stock.

Will continue checking tomorrow. Thanks!

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 8:45 PM
its all up to you. i just like to shoulder my long guns. but a pistol grip gun will work for hd.

robojet
05-24-2012, 8:51 PM
so, is it safe to say that a 500 is a 500, the different models are just outfitted differently? So, I just need to pick out the 'accessories' so to speak, like barrel length, overall length, chamber, capacity, etc.? I'm convinced that I need to go with a full stock now, and I was looking at the shorter barrels, so 6 shot seems to be what that is.

MustangSteveGT
05-24-2012, 8:53 PM
If you plan on changing the furniture, magazine tube, barrel ect; then the answer would be whatever cheap used pawn shop one you can find to modify.
There's a lot of relabeled cheaper Mossberg 500's floating around like the Revelations for example that can be had for cheap.

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 8:59 PM
again its up to you. and yes a 500 is a 500. Theres also the 590 or 590A1 family these are military spec guns made for and used in the military but we can own um to. but i always like more firepower so i went 20inch barrel 7+1 500A. but wanted the 590A1 SPX 9 SHOT #50771 OR blackwater #51772

heavyrecoil
05-24-2012, 9:10 PM
IMO, if it's a Mossberg you want, the combo sets always "on sale" at Big 5 are probably your best bet-- they include an 18" cylinder bore "home defense" barrel and a 28" fixed modified choke barrel "for the range" (as you mentioned above). If you're purely focused on HD, the model #50577 (pretty much also always "on sale" at Big 5) is a good choice.

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 9:12 PM
IMO, if it's a Mossberg you want, the combo sets always "on sale" at Big 5 are probably your best bet-- they include an 18" cylinder bore "home defense" barrel and a 28" fixed modified choke barrel "for the range" (as you mentioned above). If you're purely focused on HD, the model #50577, pretty much also always "on sale" at Big 5, is a good choice.


^^^^this also.

madland
05-24-2012, 9:13 PM
I recently bought a 500Thunder Ranch..it has a shorter lop stock but the tri-rail forend sucks imho. With a 3" magnum rd the gun kicks more due to the shorter stock and the pump's side rail will catch your thumb if you're not holding it right. And your grip hand will knock you in the nose if you're shooting some hot loads as well..but some here suggested a different grip which I'll try next time at the range. I definitely like the compactness of it for HD though. It also came with a red Hi-viz front sight that makes target acquisition fast. My .02

One Turners had it priced at $600. Another had it tagged at $400 so I asked the salesman if that's a sale price or regular..he says regular for $400. I thought for that price and the included mods it's a steal so I got one. Seeing as I'm looking to change the tri-rail pump and try a slightly longer stock I might've been better off with an 870. But again the biggest thing I like about the 500TR is its compactness for HD and 5+1 is more than enough..if I need more than that then I've probably got bigger problems!

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 9:15 PM
heres mine i reschered hard for months.


http://i45.tinypic.com/dx08yv.jpg

SFSig
05-24-2012, 9:25 PM
590A1 in one of it's configurations

Heavy wall barrel
metal trigger guard
metal safety

Mine was stiff at first, but after working the action and putting some rounds through it, it's smoothed out a lot.

Downside is they're a bit more expensive and heavy...

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 9:31 PM
i also like for hd #52133 bad azz little unit.

STUCH77
05-24-2012, 9:32 PM
[QUOTE=SFSig;8640407]590A1 in one of it's configurations

Heavy wall barrel
metal trigger guard
metal safety

Mine was stiff at first, but after working the action and putting some rounds through it, it's smoothed out a lot.

Downside is they're a bit more expensive and heavy...[/QUOTE


i stand corrected sir.

bombadillo
05-24-2012, 9:50 PM
If I were to get another one, I would either get another 870 tactical, or a new Rock Island Armory M5.

http://cdn.armslist.com/images/posts/6347103141588997865opdk0d2.jpg

I forgot who they copied, but it was a solid one either way. I just like the way the blinged out nickel one looks. It also has "the shoulder thing that goes up" on it. Also has a speedfeed stock, and a jeweled bolt which just looks cool.

robojet
05-25-2012, 7:21 AM
I appreciate all of the responses. I clearly have a lot of information to absorb.

Updgrader
05-25-2012, 8:34 AM
I say go to your local Big5 or local gun shop that carries them. (FYI) Good deals could be had here too on a used model. Shoulder all shotguns you have considered and take into consideration how you like their balance/weight, feature placements (safety, slide release, loading mech, etc. etc.) as they are both different..My 2Cents on your HD Shotgun is the KISS principle. (re: door breacher) Don't overload it with useless accessories. You really think you're going to be breaching doors in your home. You're trying to protect yourself and family. You're locked into your safe place, not out trying to bust in. They will all go bang and are reliable. After that it's all about practice and having everything be second nature to you..Like putting on your pants ;)

robojet
05-25-2012, 8:44 AM
I just discovered that Raahauges in Norco is having there annual sports fair next weekend. I'll head out there and see what they have to try out.

bombadillo
05-25-2012, 11:39 AM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/calguns%20and%20other/IMAG0294.jpg

This is what I ended up with. Remington 870 18.5" BBL extended mag tube to hold 8+1, and an $8.00 elastic shell holder. I also went with old wingmaster furniture to make it a bit heavier when practicing, and less evil looking in court. I run 7 rounds of 00 buck followed by the last one a slug.

mikey357
05-26-2012, 7:30 AM
If I were to get another one, I would either get another 870 tactical, or a new Rock Island Armory M5.

http://cdn.armslist.com/images/posts/6347103141588997865opdk0d2.jpg

I forgot who they copied, but it was a solid one either way. I just like the way the blinged out nickel one looks. It also has "the shoulder thing that goes up" on it. Also has a speedfeed stock, and a jeweled bolt which just looks cool.

I've read its a copy of the High Standard Flite King.

Mossy Man
05-26-2012, 7:52 AM
I've read its a copy of the High Standard Flite King.

owned a high standard flite king

it was a good shotgun.

Socalman
05-26-2012, 8:18 AM
Lots of good advice above. I choose to go with the Mossbergs over the Remington 870 for only 1 reason---the location of the safety. I liked the location on the Mossberg that is ambidextrous. In a stressful situation, I felt that this could make a difference.

The Mossberg is a bit lighter then the Remington 870 so you feel just a little more in recoil, but I don't think it is a significant difference.

Whatever you buy, get a variety of home defense ammo and shoot it. Find what feels good and gives you the results you want. Remember that you are probably not going to use that sucker farther then 40 feet. You DO HAVE TO AIM a shotgun. A miss with a 12gauge loaded with OO buck is as ineffective as a .22LR miss. (Though the sound might just scare the hell out of someone!)

stkcode
05-26-2012, 1:07 PM
I agree with Socalman. I don't think you can really go wrong with either of the two.
One thing to add is that the 870 is a lot simpler and easier to break down to clean then the 500/590. The 500/590 has a aluminum receiver and the 870 a steel receiver, if that makes any difference to ya.

Since this is for HD, IMO it would be best not to load it up with tact-i-cool/tact-i-crap. As already mentioned...keep it simple. Receiver saddle and ghost ring sites if possible. The rest is just more wasted money; more things to go wrong, more weight to carry and get in your way. If you want to make a cool looking wall hanger, then thats a different story.

robojet
06-04-2012, 6:22 AM
Just an update. Went to Raahauges Sports Fair and was able to shoot both the Remington 870 Express Tactical and a Mossberg 590A1. I liked both very much, but I'm leaning towards the Remington. There was something more comfortable about shooting it. It almost seemed like a balance thing. I think I would be happy with either for sure.

Thanks everyone for your input!

The War Wagon
06-04-2012, 6:31 AM
So, which of the Mossberg 500 models should I be considering?

The 590 model.

Better built, and all the 500 aftermarket stuff fits it. :thumbsup:

EdgarCervantes
06-04-2012, 8:31 AM
I would really reccomend getting the mossberg 500 combo at big5 i got mine for $340 after taxes and everything with a hunting and security barrel!

macnone
06-14-2012, 1:29 PM
590A1

MossbergMan
06-14-2012, 3:13 PM
My 500 ATP8 has served me well for over 13 years, including 5 years as the SG Range Master at a well known training facility.
The only counsel I can offer is stick with the straight stock and avoid the pistol grips. The Mavericks are "Mossberg Lights" and if not subjected to hard use would be an option, but only if the budget won't tolerate the additional $100.
A shorter length of pull is better than too long. Not much need for 3" shell for HD. But if a short stock is knocking you around, I suspect it's not mounted/shouldered properly.

RED VASQUEZ
06-14-2012, 3:56 PM
I have the 590a1. The Rambo bayonet is cool, but the lug interferes with a standard flashlight mount. I wound up going with the FAB defense tri-rail pump, but the side rails will hurt if your'e not holding it properly.