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kheiney
05-22-2012, 9:46 PM
My brand new Stag 3G has a nice gouge on the upper from the charging handle? If I hold the rifle steady and pull evenly on the charging handle for a couple cycles it smells like something is burning. This does not look normal and it only has 40 rounds through it. Has anyone seen this before?:(

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx227/kheiney/Stag%203G/DSCN1151.jpg

MrPlink
05-22-2012, 10:08 PM
Is it lubed?

PachecoFTW
05-22-2012, 10:10 PM
Yes completely normal Sir.

All my ARs have the same wear i use a synthetic that supposedly reduces metal to metal contact and wear.

bradb
05-22-2012, 10:11 PM
ive smelled the same smell, unfired, 0 rounds. could be the anodization?
what CH do you have? I have BCM gunfighter

bradb
05-22-2012, 10:11 PM
ive smelled the same smell, unfired, 0 rounds. could be the anodization?
what CH do you have? I have BCM gunfighter

PachecoFTW
05-22-2012, 10:14 PM
i have 1 forged Charging Handle, 1 Mega Billet Charging handle, and 1 BCM Gunfighter small latch charging handle.

Relax it happens to every AR that kind of wear will not affect performance consider it part of the "Break-In" period.

kheiney
05-22-2012, 10:14 PM
It is lubed. I use Slip 2000. I soaked it and worked the action some more and could see tiny metal flakes floating in the lube. This is the original CH. Just a little paranoid as this is my first AR. Thanks for the info so far.

tomd1584
05-22-2012, 10:18 PM
Now you know what happens when metal rubs against metal. Completely normal, just shoot it.

PachecoFTW
05-22-2012, 10:19 PM
It will take a little more then a couple of flakes to make an AR malfunction. If your scared about that wear wait until you see your bolt and bolt carrier in about 500 rounds.

MrPlink
05-22-2012, 10:21 PM
I meant is the CH lubed? If so you shouldnt smell any of the friction "burn" I dont anyways

kheiney
05-22-2012, 10:26 PM
I had the CH and channel dripping with lube. I guess I'll just let it run and see where it goes.

G-forceJunkie
05-22-2012, 10:34 PM
Normal. that smell, yes, that is anodized aluminum rubbing on anodized aluminum. My charging handle to totally rubbed silver on the side. Lube it and shoot it, its a tool, it wears with every shot.

kheiney
05-22-2012, 10:41 PM
It is funny that the CH looks untouched but the upper has all the wear.

MrPlink
05-22-2012, 11:05 PM
Lube the Ch itself, and once again, normal

five.five-six
05-22-2012, 11:09 PM
See, what you have here is an AR-15, enjoy it :)

My brand new Stag 3G has a nice gouge on the upper from the charging handle? If I hold the rifle steady and pull evenly on the charging handle for a couple cycles it smells like something is burning. This does not look normal and it only has 40 rounds through it. Has anyone seen this before?:(

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx227/kheiney/Stag%203G/DSCN1151.jpg

NiteQwill
05-22-2012, 11:35 PM
Who lubes their CH?

CHS
05-22-2012, 11:42 PM
Perfectly normal.

Congratulations on having a standard, working, AR.

WDE91
05-22-2012, 11:45 PM
lube,shoot,repeat
its normal
dont over think it

tuna quesadilla
05-23-2012, 12:58 AM
Who lubes their CH?

Yeah, what kind of LOSER would want to lubricate two metal surfaces that grind against each other? :rofl2:

NiteQwill
05-23-2012, 2:23 AM
Not me. The only part of my rifle that is lubed is the most important part: the bolt.

Kind of reminds me of folks who lube their buffer and buffer spring.

MrPlink
05-23-2012, 2:26 AM
Not me. The only part of my rifle that is lubed is the most important part: the bolt.

Kind of reminds me of folks who lube their buffer and buffer spring.

you wouldnt lube it the same way (same goes for buffer spring if you must) just a very light film is all that is needed.

baih777
05-23-2012, 3:34 AM
does the top of the charging handle have a little stub on it towards the front. if it does just file it down a little.
take a pic of the top of the charging handle.

MrPlink
05-23-2012, 3:36 AM
does the top of the charging handle have a little stub on it towards the front. if it does just file it down a little.
take a pic of the top of the charging handle.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/79698/RGC002-willis.jpg

kheiney
05-23-2012, 8:33 AM
Yes, the top front of the CH has a nub. But they all look like that from what I've seen.

TNP'R
05-23-2012, 9:02 AM
Yes, the top front of the CH has a nub. But they all look like that from what I've seen.

DO NOT FILE THAT DOWN!

EvoXRiley
05-23-2012, 9:32 AM
Also inspect your cam pin for wear while not common on DI guns,my GP had same wear

duggan
05-23-2012, 11:23 AM
I put a thin smear of automotive grease on my CHs when new, and like everyone has said it's normal don't sweat it.

CHS
05-23-2012, 11:41 AM
does the top of the charging handle have a little stub on it towards the front. if it does just file it down a little.
take a pic of the top of the charging handle.

WTF??!!

OP, whatever you do, IGNORE THIS GUY.

MrExel17
05-23-2012, 11:45 AM
Now you know what happens when metal rubs against metal. Completely normal, just shoot it.


I agree, OP you will run into more dings, scratches, markings, etc.. later donw the life of the gun with courses and range time. Like members say before its not a show piece its a weapon. Plus remember keywords: "Battle Scars"

the86d
05-23-2012, 12:12 PM
Ha, I had an issue with not Full Length resizing my brass before reloading.

I have some scrapes from the bolt cam not pivoting as I had to tap it out by the charging handle with a hammer. I have not had an issue since, but the scrapes made me scared.

Shoot the durn thing, it is all disposable in the end... replace the upper(/barrel) when you need to, but until then... slap, rack, bang!

American chicks dig scars... :)

loosewreck
05-23-2012, 12:22 PM
Put it away, stop shooting it. Hell, stop racking it for that matter. Any continued use will create more wear :D

Cheese and rice! What's up with all these guys complaining about minor wear. Its a machine its not magical.

p1choco
05-23-2012, 4:34 PM
does the top of the charging handle have a little stub on it towards the front. if it does just file it down a little.
take a pic of the top of the charging handle.

DO NOT FILE THAT DOWN!

WTF??!!

OP, whatever you do, IGNORE THIS GUY.

Serious question. Why not? What are the negative aspects of filing it down? Interested to hear replies from both of you.

CHS
05-23-2012, 4:49 PM
Serious question. Why not? What are the negative aspects of filing it down? Interested to hear replies from both of you.

It's not that there may or may not be any negative aspects of filing it down, it's that it's there for a reason and you never take a file to a gun if you don't know WHY you're doing it.

steve92407
05-23-2012, 5:05 PM
The charging handle crown and ears maintain the correct clearance for the gas key to shroud the gas tube w/o interference. I cannot believe someone would suggest filing the crown. Sharpen the firing pin anyone?

CHS
05-23-2012, 5:20 PM
Sharpen the firing pin anyone?

Makes sense to me! :)

alfred1222
05-23-2012, 5:46 PM
The charging handle crown and ears maintain the correct clearance for the gas key to shroud the gas tube w/o interference. I cannot believe someone would suggest filing the crown. Sharpen the firing pin anyone?

Thanks for the explination

baih777
05-23-2012, 7:25 PM
The charging handle crown and ears maintain the correct clearance for the gas key to shroud the gas tube w/o interference. I cannot believe someone would suggest filing the crown. Sharpen the firing pin anyone?

please give me a chance to explain.
why i said file down the crown. my bad for not clarifying me reasoning. sometimes you will get a crown with a burr on it. or sharp edge. what i meant to say is to lightly file the edge if necessary.
i did not mean to file the crown flat.
the above is the absolute explanation.
sorry for my poor response

steve92407
05-23-2012, 8:04 PM
I know were your coming from,did not mean to be so condescending. People think get out the file and next the bench grinder might be better.:)

p1choco
05-24-2012, 10:44 AM
please give me a chance to explain.
why i said file down the crown. my bad for not clarifying me reasoning. sometimes you will get a crown with a burr on it. or sharp edge. what i meant to say is to lightly file the edge if necessary.
i did not mean to file the crown flat.
the above is the absolute explanation.
sorry for my poor response

Ha!, perception is a mofo. My thought was that if there was a sharp edge, dull it with a file. Not all the way down. It's obvious that there is something on the charging handle digging into the upper. It can be addressed without negative side effects.

george223
05-24-2012, 11:10 PM
I have 3 ar's that don't do that. However, functionally, there shouldn't be a problem. There is probably a burr on the front of the CH as others have said. Smooth it down slightly with a file or emery cloth and use some Birch-Casey Aluminum Black solution to touch up your receiver and CH, lube, and you're good to go.

Brown Rock
05-25-2012, 10:23 AM
I have something similar to that. Not quite like yours though.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x295/ih8suvz/Upper.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x295/ih8suvz/upper2.jpg