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smith629
05-17-2012, 3:54 PM
Has it been 4 years already? I just went to a bunch of sites to find the lowest price on 556 and it has jumped through the roof.

I bought a 1000rds of lake city xm193 in October for $289 from Cheaper than dirt (Ammo 5.56x45mm Federal Lake City FMJBT 55 Grain 3250 fps 1000 Round Case item #57281 to be exact), and now its like $400? Plus its out of stock at most places. I did find some PMC for $350 from Ammotogo for 1000rds of PMC.

Thoughts?

Intimid8tor
05-17-2012, 3:57 PM
It's been up for a while and will only get worse. I did find a receipt for some prvi m855 I bought in early 2009. I pad 450 per k and that stuff flew off the shelves. Can't believe I was stupid enough to pay that much.

SinCal559
05-17-2012, 4:03 PM
I made the mistake of going to a local gun shop and buying 1000 rounds of 62 grain steel core 556..... $700!!!! I could of the p226 I have been dreaming about!

loosewreck
05-17-2012, 4:12 PM
I made the mistake of going to a local gun shop and buying 1000 rounds of 62 grain steel core 556..... $700!!!! I could of the p226 I have been dreaming about!

You got jacked! Return it if you still can. There's a few members selling green tips in the Marketplace for way less.

Here's an example
(http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=479197)

Capybara
05-17-2012, 4:13 PM
5.56 and .223 prices are through the roof. I bought 1k of PMC Bronze for as cheap as $279.00 per 1K in March. XM193 is even more expensive and harder to find. It will come down again after the elections at some point but I do fear that the days of less than .30 per round are over permanently. Too many people have ARs, election craziness, EOTW craziness, stupid zombie prep, ammo shortages due to military and government contracts, there are a lot of factors.

Being an avid shooter is becoming a rich man's sport, which is really sad. Bring on the Mosins.

AeroEngi
05-17-2012, 4:17 PM
I totally agree with you guys. Not only is it hard to find but it's damn expensive when you actually do find some. I've been desperately looking around for some xm193 and the sites are either out of stock or they're charging like $8-$10 for a box of 20. Ridiculous!

tradecraft
05-17-2012, 4:20 PM
Has it been 4 years already? I just went to a bunch of sites to find the lowest price on 556 and it has jumped through the roof.

I bought a 1000rds of lake city xm193 in October for $289 from Cheaper than dirt (Ammo 5.56x45mm Federal Lake City FMJBT 55 Grain 3250 fps 1000 Round Case item #57281 to be exact), and now its like $400? Plus its out of stock at most places. I did find some PMC for $350 from Ammotogo for 1000rds of PMC.

Thoughts?

You need to start buying in bulk when the prices are good. I don't see the rising 5.56 prices subsiding anytime this year. I have a backorder for XM193 with Brownells and I just keep adding more and more cases to it since I know it's not going to get any cheaper. It's going to end up being my single largest ammo purchase of the past few years....I guess I'm not really helping with availability :chris:

SinCal559
05-17-2012, 4:22 PM
You got jacked! Return it if you still can. There's a few members selling green tips in the Marketplace for way less.

Here's an example
(http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=479197)

I know. It was a spur of the moment buy, and they have a no ammo return policy, not only that this was back in March also. I learned my lesson now.

darqhelmet
05-17-2012, 4:25 PM
Reloading is a beautiful thing.

Bobby Ricigliano
05-17-2012, 4:25 PM
Suburban commandos are up armoring and stockpiling ammo for the impending zombie invasion or other douchey EOTW armageddon fantasies.

AeroEngi
05-17-2012, 4:27 PM
Suburban commandos are up armoring and stockpiling ammo for the impending zombie invasion or other douchey EOTW armageddon fantasies.

F that!!! What a bunch of lamos! I need to practice damn it!

kauaibuilt
05-17-2012, 4:35 PM
You need to start buying in bulk when the prices are good. I don't see the rising 5.56 prices subsiding anytime this year. I have a backorder for XM193 with Brownells and I just keep adding more and more cases to it since I know it's not going to get any cheaper. It's going to end up being my single largest ammo purchase of the past few years....I guess I'm not really helping with availability :chris:

Have you heard anything from Brownells about when they expect ammo in? I have 3k on backorder @ about $0.27/rd shipped.... BUT no idea when its coming in.

tradecraft
05-17-2012, 4:43 PM
Have you heard anything from Brownells about when they expect ammo in? I have 3k on backorder @ about $0.27/rd shipped.... BUT no idea when its coming in.

Last I heard, it was 'trickling' in, but who knows; as long as it arrives sometime this calendar year, I'm happy. I have 40k on backorder at the same price - what a bargain it's going to be when it finally ships! When was your order date?

Capybara
05-17-2012, 4:46 PM
40K?? So you're the problem ;-)

tradecraft
05-17-2012, 4:52 PM
40K?? So you're the problem ;-)

:o My order started out as 2 cases though, honest! A few of the cases are for some friendly local Calgunners. (edit: please don't PM me about this)

The rising prices have convinced me that now is the time to finally lock myself into a good supply so I don't get nipped in the butt every election year. 2008 sucked.

bigdawg86
05-17-2012, 4:57 PM
40,000 rounds @ .27 per round = $10,800 and an obviously single guy!

Capybara
05-17-2012, 5:08 PM
I definitely a friendly Calgunner so if you discover you have too many cases, let me know.

AeroEngi
05-17-2012, 5:13 PM
Ya, same here. If you have any extra cases, I'm willing to buy them from you when you get the shipment.

tradecraft
05-17-2012, 5:21 PM
I definitely a friendly Calgunner so if you discover you have too many cases, let me know.

Ya, same here. If you have any extra cases, I'm willing to buy them from you when you get the shipment.

You guys are a few hours too far and a few weeks too late unfortunately (otherwise, I would have been all for it).

One thing that many don't realize is that when you buy in bulk quantity (say, 10 cases or more), you can often negotiate your own shipping with the storefront, often saving you from obscene shipping costs. This doesn't apply to Brownells obviously, but for many other shops, it does.

AeroEngi
05-17-2012, 5:22 PM
You guys are a few hours too far and a few weeks too late unfortunately (otherwise, I would have been all for it).

Thanks anyway man. If anything changes, please let me know.

chris
05-17-2012, 5:42 PM
Suburban commandos are up armoring and stockpiling ammo for the impending zombie invasion or other douchey EOTW armageddon fantasies.

yeah that is what i thought. people are so paranoid that the president is going to ban ammo. well he hasn't and a seriously doubt he alone ever could. so it's just stupid that people are thinking that after the election we won't be able to buy ammo.

yes i know that Obama is antigun but this panic buying is just stupid.


40,000 rounds @ .27 per round = $10,800 and an obviously single guy!

Sh*t who the F has money like that to spend on ammo.

SinCal559
05-17-2012, 5:48 PM
F that!!! What a bunch of lamos! I need to practice damn it!

x 1000

Darklyte27
05-17-2012, 5:48 PM
4 years ago all over again, except i think this year its happened earlier.

Yes a few months ago a case of 1k of PMC was 289$ now its 350 if you can find it in stock.

I lucked out 4 years ago bought plenty of reloading stuff before the rush. Plenty of 556 bullets, powder, primers. plenty of loaded ammo and left over brass to reload. Now waiting on my new dillon xl650

tradecraft
05-17-2012, 5:49 PM
Sh*t who the F has money like that to spend on ammo.

Just extrapolate how much you're going to shoot over your lifetime. History generally says it's more cost efficient to get in sooner than later for this sort of stuff. Plus, whatever excess I end up with, I can trade it for more cool stuff. Or at least that's how I justified it to myself...

Steerme
05-17-2012, 5:56 PM
I was talking to a gun shop owner in LV last weekend. The US government placed multi year orders for ammunition to take ammo off the shelves from citizens. The US government takes priority for shipments and product that was already palleted and ready for shipment to private shops was reallocated to government orders.

How else can you explain the order of 400 million rounds of hollow point handgun ammunition that can never be used in a war zone? What makes matters worse, the hollow point ammo can only be used against our own citizens or "foreign invaders" on US soil as it would be against the Geneva Convention to use it for military purposes.

Here we are in the middle of a massive budget deficet with NO federal budget for 3 years and the government spends OUR money to keep ammo out of the hands of law abiding citizens prior to the election.

I suggest that we speak to our congressmen and senators to throw out Clintons executive order making it illegal to sell surplus military ammo to civillians. They can present it as a deficet reduction bill as moneys paid for the surplus ammo could be applied to lower the deficet. And we could use our "paid for ammo" instead of having it destroyed.

Darklyte27
05-17-2012, 5:57 PM
Just extrapolate how much you're going to shoot over your lifetime. History generally says it's more cost efficient to get in sooner than later for this sort of stuff. Plus, whatever excess I end up with, I can trade it for more cool stuff. Or at least that's how I justified it to myself...

pretty much sums it up.

I recently bought 2k rds of 45 at 317$ a case shipped. Rarely will you find a deal like that.

C3nt3rMa55
05-17-2012, 6:03 PM
One of the best instock deals right now, I bought 2 a month ago when it was 169.99 per 500


http://www.glensoutdoors.com/Federal-XM193-5-56-x-45mm-55-Grain-FMJ-BT-500-p/xm193f.htm

morthrane
05-17-2012, 6:15 PM
limited supply, crazy demand, and inflation turning dollars into toliet paper-- what's the surprise?

pacifico23
05-17-2012, 6:22 PM
Still seems as gun shows you can find 1000 round brass ammo in the 290-320 range. Personally I'm conserving ammo this year cause the prices. With the election year it is going to rise.

DarkSoul
05-17-2012, 6:34 PM
Reloading is a beautiful thing.

Amen to that, I am loading .223 for about .17 a round, and about .20 a round for 300 blackout.

DRUNKENMASTER
05-17-2012, 7:03 PM
AE 5.56 Box of 20 for $6.99 @ Cabella's. Free shipping over $100 with promo code 52SHIP.

AR15 Guy
05-17-2012, 7:13 PM
I was talking to a gun shop owner in LV last weekend. The US government placed multi year orders for ammunition to take ammo off the shelves from citizens. The US government takes priority for shipments and product that was already palleted and ready for shipment to private shops was reallocated to government orders.

How else can you explain the order of 400 million rounds of hollow point handgun ammunition that can never be used in a war zone? What makes matters worse, the hollow point ammo can only be used against our own citizens or "foreign invaders" on US soil as it would be against the Geneva Convention to use it for military purposes.

Here we are in the middle of a massive budget deficet with NO federal budget for 3 years and the government spends OUR money to keep ammo out of the hands of law abiding citizens prior to the election.

I suggest that we speak to our congressmen and senators to throw out Clintons executive order making it illegal to sell surplus military ammo to civillians. They can present it as a deficet reduction bill as moneys paid for the surplus ammo could be applied to lower the deficet. And we could use our "paid for ammo" instead of having it destroyed.

Sounds like the kind of FUD that has started this whole issue in the first place...:facepalm:

titleist16
05-17-2012, 7:18 PM
I just got lucky, I happened to be at Wal-Mart and they had 10 boxes of AE .223 left so I bought them all for $75. That's the cheapest I can find .223 for around here. Other places are starting to charge $10/box for basic 55 grain .223, gotta start buying as much good priced ammo as I can now.

MUKAK
05-17-2012, 7:31 PM
am just happy my GAS PISTON AR shoot wolf, tula and all and other steel cased ammo that can still be found very cheap

bender152
05-17-2012, 7:41 PM
am just happy my GAS PISTON AR shoot wolf, tula and all and other steel cased ammo that can still be found very cheap

I wouldn't say cheap, but definitely less expensive than brass.

I picked up a bunch of Tula ammo at $200/k shipped late last year. ($4 per box was always my sign to buy.) Now we're looking at $250 shipped for that same ammo. :(

smith629
05-17-2012, 7:47 PM
Has steel cased ammo also gone up? I am finding it for about $0.24 per round. Sounds like what brass used to be.

Anyone have a part # for the brownells back order at .27 per round? I can wait, I'll just shoot my 22s this summer. No way am I gunna pay $0.40 per round for 223.

tradecraft
05-17-2012, 7:50 PM
Has steel cased ammo also gone up? I am finding it for about $0.24 per round. Sounds like what brass used to be.

Anyone have a part # for the brownells back order at .27 per round? I can wait, I'll just shoot my 22s this summer. No way am I gunna pay $0.40 per round for 223.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=44904/sku=105-200-938/Product/Federal-Ammo-556-55gr-FMJBT-Bulk-

You cannot backorder at .27 anymore though.

smith629
05-17-2012, 8:43 PM
Looks like I'll be waiting this one out. At least the price of gas is going down.

I did pick up a thousand rounds of 9mm for the same price I paid last year (.22 cents a round).

I do plan on reloading in the near future. Have primers or bullets also shot up like 223 ammo?

bender152
05-17-2012, 9:03 PM
Has steel cased ammo also gone up? I am finding it for about $0.24 per round.

Per my above post, a "good" deal last year was $0.20 per round including shipping.

I do plan on reloading in the near future. Have primers or bullets also shot up like 223 ammo?

No, prices are relatively the same and components are easy to find for now. However, in 2009, powder was sometimes difficult to get and primers were impossible to find.

NorCalK9.com
05-17-2012, 9:04 PM
And thats why the AK74 wins lol. 545x39 $280 for 2160 rounds. And yes im bout to start reloading.

loosewreck
05-17-2012, 9:09 PM
And thats why the AK74 wins lol. 545x39 $280 for 2160 rounds. And yes im bout to start reloading.

I'd love to get one, but I can't shoot the ammo most of the year and can't get the stuff shipped to my house here in LA.

NorCalK9.com
05-17-2012, 9:29 PM
Yeah you guys down south hwve it real bad. Stupid range rules and stupid shipping laws.

titleist16
05-17-2012, 10:10 PM
Yeah it sucks, I also want to get an AK47 but most of the ranges dont allow any kind of magnetic or steel cased ammo. That kind of defeats the purpose of me getting an AK if I cant buy the cheap steel cased ammo. I guess .22 and shotguns are the only guns cheap enough to shoot alot anymore :(

EvoXRiley
05-17-2012, 10:12 PM
Yeah you guys down south hwve it real bad. Stupid range rules and stupid shipping laws.

Amen my Adams arms AR in 5.45 is great, I have about 7k rounds stockpiled and by a spam can each paycheck since its only$140 for 1080 rds
:D

MKMS
05-17-2012, 10:25 PM
So where are some good deals for some 223/556 ammo? I've been looking every since I put in my order for my 16'' LW middy. I've been seeing some WPA ammo for 26 cents a bullet. I am wondering if WPA is any good? From what I read, only problem is that it gets the rifle really dirty. Anyone care to enlighten me?

NorCalK9.com
05-17-2012, 10:39 PM
Wpa is wolf steel cased ammo. My ak's in 556 and my m&p15 sport spits it out very nicely.

Standard
05-18-2012, 5:53 AM
Makes me not feel bad for buying 30-06 for $.50/round.
Looking forward to starting reloading.

Capybara
05-18-2012, 6:55 AM
I don't think that there are too many "deals" on 5.56 or .223 anymore unfortunately. If I could shoot steel cased, I would be all over that. I may join one or two of the clubs that allow it but the money I would save by being able to shoot the cheap ammo would be taken up by the expensive new membership fees? I guess after year one, it might make it worth it.

Getting a 5.45 upper looks tempting, that ammo is so cheap!

Standard
05-18-2012, 7:08 AM
I don't think that there are too many "deals" on 5.56 or .223 anymore unfortunately. If I could shoot steel cased, I would be all over that. I may join one or two of the clubs that allow it but the money I would save by being able to shoot the cheap ammo would be taken up by the expensive new membership fees? I guess after year one, it might make it worth it.

Getting a 5.45 upper looks tempting, that ammo is so cheap!

But its also steel cased
Norcal sure has some advantages. :o

triggs75
05-18-2012, 7:10 AM
One of the best instock deals right now, I bought 2 a month ago when it was 169.99 per 500


http://www.glensoutdoors.com/Federal-XM193-5-56-x-45mm-55-Grain-FMJ-BT-500-p/xm193f.htm

Thank you very much for the link. Ordered and had a tracking number 30 minutes later.

Chad

760knox
05-18-2012, 7:45 AM
So who's down for a 223/556 Ammo group buy?!

peter95
05-18-2012, 7:49 AM
yup, just buying more and more now before it gets even higher..... It wont stop

bigdawg86
05-18-2012, 8:33 AM
Realistically speaking... what's the point of all the panic?

BroncoBob
05-18-2012, 8:37 AM
I was at Tracy Rifle and Pistol a several weeks back and Mike mentioned that they were told by his distributor that Lake City was raising their prices.

chris
05-18-2012, 9:11 AM
Realistically speaking... what's the point of all the panic?

it's just people thinking that Obama will ban all ammo or something really stupid. it didn't happen after he was elected in 08 and i seriously doubt it that it will happen if he is re-elected.

captbilly
05-18-2012, 9:17 AM
I have not bought recently but I did see a huge decrease in ammo prices over the past couple of years. It seems like somewhere, somehow, people are convincing themselves that after each election we are likely to see a big crackdown in guns and ammo availability.

I am unaware of any anti gun legislation that Obama has attempted to get through Congress yet this idea that Obama is anti gun just won't go away. In any case, it is Congress not the President who would need to pass any anti gun legislation. Honestly much of the assault weapons ban and other anti gun legislation was/is nonsense, but we obviously need some way of keeping guns out of the hands of crazy people. Although I would say that there are many other things that a crazy person could use to kill people if he/she were hell bent on doing so. One of the problems inherent in a highly technological society is that we have the means to direct energy at a rate that humans alone cannot. But unlike our technology, which is so far unthinking, humans are highly emotional and highly unstable. In the USAF I was monitored constantly for any sign of unstable behavior (as part of the PRP, for people handling nuclear weapons), and I can see some sort of similar program for people handling anything that could pose a significant threat to the public.

yeah that is what i thought. people are so paranoid that the president is going to ban ammo. well he hasn't and a seriously doubt he alone ever could. so it's just stupid that people are thinking that after the election we won't be able to buy ammo.

yes i know that Obama is antigun but this panic buying is just stupid.




Sh*t who the F has money like that to spend on ammo.

ir0nclash86
05-18-2012, 9:19 AM
So who's down for a 223/556 Ammo group buy?!

As long as we can get it for .30 cents a round shipped, I can buy a couple thousand of some 55gr.

bender152
05-18-2012, 10:08 AM
Realistically speaking... what's the point of all the panic?

In 2008, people were scared Obama was going to take everyone's guns away, so they stockpiled everything - ammo, AR's, rifles, pistols, etc.

.223/5.56 ammo commonly sold for $0.40 to $0.50 per round and even at those prices, was still difficult to find.

in 2012, people remembered how bad it was in 2008 and are buying ammo so that they:

1. Have something to shoot when supply gets lean
2. Don't get bent over on ammo prices when supply gets lean

$0.35 per round sucks, but it sure as hell is better than $0.45 per round.

AeroEngi
05-18-2012, 11:23 AM
So who's down for a 223/556 Ammo group buy?!

Count me in!

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Yemff
05-18-2012, 12:07 PM
I am unaware of any anti gun legislation that Obama has attempted to get through Congress yet this idea that Obama is anti gun just won't go away.

More extreme legislation always comes 2nd term

gesundheit
05-18-2012, 12:11 PM
I have not bought recently but I did see a huge decrease in ammo prices over the past couple of years. It seems like somewhere, somehow, people are convincing themselves that after each election we are likely to see a big crackdown in guns and ammo availability.

I am unaware of any anti gun legislation that Obama has attempted to get through Congress yet this idea that Obama is anti gun just won't go away. In any case, it is Congress not the President who would need to pass any anti gun legislation. Honestly much of the assault weapons ban and other anti gun legislation was/is nonsense, but we obviously need some way of keeping guns out of the hands of crazy people. Although I would say that there are many other things that a crazy person could use to kill people if he/she were hell bent on doing so. One of the problems inherent in a highly technological society is that we have the means to direct energy at a rate that humans alone cannot. But unlike our technology, which is so far unthinking, humans are highly emotional and highly unstable. In the USAF I was monitored constantly for any sign of unstable behavior (as part of the PRP, for people handling nuclear weapons), and I can see some sort of similar program for people handling anything that could pose a significant threat to the public.

It is mostly the vendors that are creating this mass panic. Have you seen emails from some of these vendors? Buy our overpriced crap because god knows the jackbooted mafia will take everything come election time! Argghhhh!

I am guilty of falling for this. Although I didn't pay and am still refusing to pay exhorbitantly high prices.

P.S. I am in for your group buy 760knox.

vliberatore
05-18-2012, 12:11 PM
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/rifle-ammunition/mfs-223-55gr-fmj-zinc-plated.html

$4.99/box (20rd) and free shipping.

AeroEngi
05-18-2012, 12:29 PM
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/rifle-ammunition/mfs-223-55gr-fmj-zinc-plated.html

$4.99/box (20rd) and free shipping.

Is that stuff any good? I've never used it.

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FourLoko
05-18-2012, 12:32 PM
Is that stuff any good? I've never used it.

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I've been reading good things. Seems it's the same as Silver Bear which is often called the best steel cased surplus for the AR. I'm still running only brass through my primary AR and when you see a deal you have go jump quick. Request in stock notices and such.

I did so on some "cheap" .223 that's been working for me. Notified it was back in stock, ordered a half case with the quickness and not long after it's gone from the site. I forsee many an AR owner switching to steel case ammo.

MarkL
05-18-2012, 1:25 PM
Thanks for the tip on the MFS ammo. 400 rnds otw. Brown and Silver have been flawless in my AR. I'm hoping this stuff will do the same.

AeroEngi
05-18-2012, 1:46 PM
I've been reading good things. Seems it's the same as Silver Bear which is often called the best steel cased surplus for the AR. I'm still running only brass through my primary AR and when you see a deal you have go jump quick. Request in stock notices and such.

I did so on some "cheap" .223 that's been working for me. Notified it was back in stock, ordered a half case with the quickness and not long after it's gone from the site. I forsee many an AR owner switching to steel case ammo.

Is it steel alloy jacketed like Wolf and Tula? I wanna be able to shoot these at the range too.

EvolutionGSR
05-18-2012, 2:37 PM
Is it steel alloy jacketed like Wolf and Tula? I wanna be able to shoot these at the range too.

Id like to know too. The zinc plating instead of laquer coating on the casing sounds beneficial after reading here on calguns about having to clean melted laquer out of chambers.

GM4spd
05-18-2012, 4:40 PM
Suburban commandos are up armoring and stockpiling ammo for the impending zombie invasion or other douchey EOTW armageddon fantasies.

This! Pete

quattrosam
05-18-2012, 6:07 PM
In 2008, people were scared Obama was going to take everyone's guns away, so they stockpiled everything - ammo, AR's, rifles, pistols, etc.

.223/5.56 ammo commonly sold for $0.40 to $0.50 per round and even at those prices, was still difficult to find.

in 2012, people remembered how bad it was in 2008 and are buying ammo so that they:

1. Have something to shoot when supply gets lean
2. Don't get bent over on ammo prices when supply gets lean

$0.35 per round sucks, but it sure as hell is better than $0.45 per round.

Big +1. I'm glad I took advantage of the "dip" in prices last year. Prices have been going up and will probably keep doing so through the election.

valley82
05-18-2012, 6:28 PM
One word..Democrats.

MKMS
05-18-2012, 8:53 PM
So who's down for a 223/556 Ammo group buy?!
Count me in!!

Is that stuff any good? I've never used it.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

Ya, saw the same deal. is it g2g up in norcal?

MKMS
05-18-2012, 8:59 PM
http://slickdeals.net/f/4461616-GUNS-AMMO-223-55gr-FMJ-Zinc-Plated-20rnd-Box-4-99-FREE-SHIPPING
Guess I found a review about it on slickdeals. Im tempted to buy a few!

five.five-six
05-18-2012, 8:59 PM
Has it been 4 years already? I just went to a bunch of sites to find the lowest price on 556 and it has jumped through the roof.

I bought a 1000rds of lake city xm193 in October for $289 from Cheaper than dirt (Ammo 5.56x45mm Federal Lake City FMJBT 55 Grain 3250 fps 1000 Round Case item #57281 to be exact), and now its like $400? Plus its out of stock at most places. I did find some PMC for $350 from Ammotogo for 1000rds of PMC.

Thoughts?

You made it 4 years on 1,000 rounds?

mod1217
05-18-2012, 9:05 PM
I heard Cabelas has 5.56 priced at $6.99 box of 20 and free shipping if your order is more than $99.00 you can check it out here

http://www.cabelas.com/product/American-Eagle174-Rifle-Ammunition (http://www.cabelas.com/product/American-Eagle174-Rifle-Ammunition/734598.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch%2F%3FN%3D4294756919 %26Ne%3D4294756919%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3D5.5 6%26Ntx%3Dmode%252Bmatchallpartial%26WTz_l%3DHeade r%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26WTz_st%3DSearchRefinements%26form _state%3DsearchForm%26search%3D5.56%26searchTypeBy Filter%3DAllProducts&Ntt=5.56&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products)

capitol
05-18-2012, 9:12 PM
Buy into the ammo hype (again) Buy Buy Buy it all.

The world is coming to an end :willy_nilly::willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

kris smith
05-19-2012, 10:36 AM
I just got 500 reloads for 140 and 500 wolf for 115 at the sd show I think it's time for a 74

smog7
05-19-2012, 11:55 AM
democrats have nothing to do with the scarcity and rising price problems.

it's all due to republicans freaking out and buying all the ammo they can.

sigstroker
05-20-2012, 12:02 AM
More extreme legislation always comes 2nd term

Because they are lame ducks and don't have to worry about being re-elected.

Ammo prices will likely take a dip on December 22nd.

DarkSoul
05-20-2012, 6:24 AM
I love how everyone says "the president is going to pass all this anti gun legislation", the president doesn't pass laws, Congress does, And currently, the House of representatives is majority held by republicans (242 to 190) and the democrats only have a 5 seat bias in the senate, so the chances of any new anti gun laws happening, is almost none. As well, I have only heard Obama state, in regards to gun legislation, that we should enforce the existing laws, not make up new ones (so unless I am missing something, and that's entirely possible), I thnk people are freaking out for no reason :confused:

More specifically to the subject at hand, and I know it has been mentioned several times already, RELOAD, I am currently reloading 5.56 for approx. .16 per round using range pick up brass. I can load about 400-500 rounds and hour on my Dillon 550, and myself and a friend of mine built a brass tumbler that can tumble 5k pcs of brass in 2 hours using a cheap cement mixer we modified up.

Admittedly, depending on the equipment you buy, it can add up, but I guarantee, the savings will be seen very quickly. I have a list of websites for surplus powder, pulled bullets, and discounts on primers that I frequent, and whenever I see a great deal, I buy. For instance, I started to load 300 blackout, I cut down 5.55 brass, found 147g .308 pulled bullets (non magnetic) for $125 per 1k, and found a guy with military aa1680 powder for $100 per 8lbs (bought the last 30 lbs he had) and there you go , right about .20 a round for 300 blackout. I do have a lot of trick loading equipment, but for what I have saved in ammo costs, it has paid for itself at least 3x over.

Dutch3
05-20-2012, 6:45 AM
I love how everyone says "the president is going to pass all this anti gun legislation", the president doesn't pass laws, Congress does...

What are the limitations on Executive Orders? I wouldn't be surprised at anything being generated by a few strokes of the Royal Pen.

DarkSoul
05-20-2012, 7:00 AM
What are the limitations on Executive Orders? I wouldn't be surprised at anything being generated by a few strokes of the Royal Pen.

It is my understanding, and my own sort of interpretation I guess, is that yes, a president could theoretically in one swoop outlaw any and all guns if he so chose, BUT, this would 1. Be political suicide, and he knows it, and 2. It is possible for the senate to even overturn that by arguing against it with the second amendment. From what I have read on the issue, it's rare that something like gun rights would get kaboshed through an executive order, it's usually much larger issues such as the WW2 Japanese internment camps, and more along the lines of human rights.... USUALLY, not to say some sitting presidents don't do it for political gains, but I think that is more rare, and I can't imagine this admin. trying it on gun rights.

fabguy
05-20-2012, 8:05 AM
It is my understanding, and my own sort of interpretation I guess, is that yes, a president could theoretically in one swoop outlaw any and all guns if he so chose, BUT, this would 1. Be political suicide, and he knows it, and 2. It is possible for the senate to even overturn that by arguing against it with the second amendment. From what I have read on the issue, it's rare that something like gun rights would get kaboshed through an executive order, it's usually much larger issues such as the WW2 Japanese internment camps, and more along the lines of human rights.... USUALLY, not to say some sitting presidents don't do it for political gains, but I think that is more rare, and I can't imagine this admin. trying it on gun rights.

+1, although it would be simple for him to do it with ammo. Like having an automobile with out any fuel. By restricting ammo, I don't he would be violating any 2A rights, right? Not sure but this thought is just a theory that could develope. Anyone have an answer to this?

Mail Clerk
05-20-2012, 8:19 AM
It appears the prices have come down some but still way over priced and won't be the same as before the wars started. If you want to shoot just be prepared in your mind to pay double the price per box or shoot the cheap Russian stuff that'll corrode te hell out of your rifle..

Mail Clerk

FourLoko
05-20-2012, 8:24 AM
It appears the prices have come down some but still way over priced and won't be the same as before the wars started. If you want to shoot just be prepared in your mind to pay double the price per box or shoot the cheap Russian stuff that'll corrode te hell out of your rifle..

Mail Clerk

most if not all of the foreign 223/556 is non-corrosive

donking
05-20-2012, 11:07 PM
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/rifle-ammunition/mfs-223-55gr-fmj-zinc-plated.html

$4.99/box (20rd) and free shipping.

That is a pretty good deal for ammo now-a-days. I bought a case of this from a different distributer 2 years ago for about $20 less total to the door. It shot fine for inexpensive plinking ammo, about the same as Brown/Silver bear. Note that it is a bi-metal projectile (attract magnet) and can't be shot at some ranges. This link gives a more detailed description: http://www.weaponsworld.com/ammunition/mfs-ammunition-223-remington-55-grain-full-metal-jacket-zinc-plated-steel-case-case-of-1000-50-boxes-of-20.html

sigstroker
05-21-2012, 12:25 AM
POTUS doesn't "pass" bills, but he can sure push for them. It's easy to get one introduced by one of the Dems. All he has to do is ask.

Mail Clerk
05-21-2012, 6:10 AM
most if not all of the foreign 223/556 is non-corrosive

FourLoko,

I have some from Malaysia. Is that OK??? I had too thought it was non-corrosive but I read somewhere that it wasn't. Am I wrong????

Mail Clerk

kauaibuilt
06-06-2012, 11:35 AM
Last I heard, it was 'trickling' in, but who knows; as long as it arrives sometime this calendar year, I'm happy. I have 40k on backorder at the same price - what a bargain it's going to be when it finally ships! When was your order date?

Waaay late response but...

Ordered Feb 22nd. Received email that b/o has arrived to warehouse. Should be arriving to my door shortly. $540 shipped for 2k = $0.27/rd. 1k still on b/o from March 9th which should be @ $0.31/rd.

My how times have changed.... :mad:

Dave07997S
06-06-2012, 12:42 PM
More extreme legislation always comes 2nd term

Not if there is a Republican Senate and House.. It looks like the Repubs can take the Senate back as well.

Dave

tradecraft
06-06-2012, 3:39 PM
Waaay late response but...

Ordered Feb 22nd. Received email that b/o has arrived to warehouse. Should be arriving to my door shortly. $540 shipped for 2k = $0.27/rd. 1k still on b/o from March 9th which should be @ $0.31/rd.

My how times have changed.... :mad:

Sweet. I ordered two weeks before you in Feb....I hope they email me soon :D

twohi2play
06-07-2012, 12:37 AM
They have bulk 1000 LC XM193 on luckygunner for $385 not including shipping. That is just ridiculous! The sad thing about it is that people are buying it.