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Striper 05
05-17-2012, 2:04 PM
I'm new to the clay sports and i'm trying to find a reasonably priced semi auto.
I am looking into buying a CZ 712 or 912 for trap/skeet shooting. I'd also use it for hunting as well. Iv'e read some reviews but i'm still undecided. The price is right ($500 retail) but i'm more concerned with functionality and reliability.

I've also looked at the Beretta's. Specifically the A400, 3901 and AL391.
I'd rather not spend double or triple the cost for the Beretta though.

Any comments, suggestions are appreciated.

***Any info on the Mossberg 930 (Item #85120) hunting version would be appreciated as well***

Javi
05-17-2012, 2:07 PM
Here's a reliability test on the 912 over at shotgunworld:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=250848

I haven't read this thread in a whileee because I was looking at Beretta o/u's last time I was shopping around. Looks like his hammer broke again, hmm.

Striper 05
05-17-2012, 2:39 PM
Thanks for the link Javi! What a great help!

BigDogatPlay
05-17-2012, 3:47 PM
The difference you will spend over time in repairs will usually more than justify the higher initial cost. Someone I know bought a Turkish made Charles Daly semi on close out not long before Daly went bankrupt. Got the gun for a fraction of the price of a base model Beretta or Benelli, and he's been hoarding parts as he can find them. The gun has broken a bolt lug and a carrier so far through probably 7K or so rounds.

That said, don't discount a Remington 1100 or 11-87. They can be found used in very good shape in your price target and are utterly reliable. My current 1100 was a $450 Calguns pickup. It was in 95% shape when I got it, and is still close to that 10K rounds later. Hasn't missed a beat and shows virtually no signs of wear.

onegtalon
05-17-2012, 5:51 PM
I've also looked at the Beretta's. Specifically the A400, 3901 and AL391.
I'd rather not spend double or triple the cost for the Beretta though.
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Hmmm.. I got a barely used 3901 for around $500 and I love it ! I fits me so I'm happy. But yea the AL391's are more $$$

Just make sure it fits first.

Striper 05
05-17-2012, 5:56 PM
The beretta fits perfect I'm just struggling with the cost of the berettas.
The A400 is a perfect fit but again &1200+ $s.

RayPDA
05-17-2012, 11:17 PM
Howabout waiting till June and taking a look at the new A300 Outlander? MSRP starts in the 700 range, so street price will hopefully be right in your range.

if looking at used - 1100/11-87 like Bigdog says; also the older Beretta semis can be had in your price range...both are tried and true, and since there's barrels and stocks and accessories galore, you could outfit an 1100 or A303 for all the clays games and all hunting if you choose the right mix of parts.

Javi
05-17-2012, 11:24 PM
The beretta fits perfect I'm just struggling with the cost of the berettas.
The A400 is a perfect fit but again &1200+ $s.

I definitely hear ya, man. It's funny, though..I went from CZ 912/Stoeger M2000 price to Beretta A400 XCEL price & then to the Beretta 686 Silver pigeon price! You may want to check out the Winchester Super X-3 and the newer Franchi Affinity as well as the Beretta 3901 as someone mentioned. Actually, probably the Stoeger M2000 too. Used Beretta semi-autos can be had at more reasonable prices too. I have some catching up to do in his CZ 912 thread there to see when his hammer broke a 2nd time.

elfstone
05-18-2012, 12:53 AM
I guess this is good timing cause I came into the shotgun forum to look for fellow CZ 912ers.

I ordered my 912 from buds less than $500. Arrived in FFL in 4 days. I took it home last Fri. Shot 120 rounds on Sat.
Impressions: Just by the pics and videos you can tell it is a sleek handsome gun. Having it in my hand the lines feel and look much better. The fiber optic bead is instinctive (which moving targets is). I really like the spring recoil in the stock instead of on the tube with the 712 and other guns.
Accuracy: was accurate. I missed some and it was user error and not firing a shotgun for over a year. It did seem to shoot 5" low at 25 yards but its probably me.

I cannot do comparisons with the other guns mentioned above. I have shot friend's higher priced over unders and a few good semis. My 912 has the least recoil of the semis I have shot. Comparable to slightly lower swing feel than over unders. One shotgun old timer at the range actually stopped me while I was walking past to ask me what gun it was. He was very impressed by the look.

Negative: If you shake it, the reserve tube spring rattles. I don't like 'loose' items making any sound on guns. It did not affect function. Listed at 7lb and change, it felt heavier than that.
Positives: Look, comfort, out of the box accurate

Striper 05
05-18-2012, 6:36 AM
Used Beretta's are definately in the mix. I plan on looking at the Mossberg 930 too.
I read the 1st 10 pages then skipped to the last 2 or 3 pages. He was pretty frustrated and appeared disappointed with the hammer issue.

Striper 05
05-18-2012, 6:49 AM
RayReys thanks for the heads up on the Outlander. That looks like a good 1!