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res2580
05-15-2012, 8:04 PM
I really can't decide which one I will put on my AR built. So, I'm asking for your help? It will be a mid length rail over a carbine gas block.Please lets just keep it between the 2 rails I like most.

osis32
05-15-2012, 8:59 PM
What are you gonna do with it. I have a diamond and don't use any of the rail space. Wasted space IMHO I'd go with the tj rail if I was gonna do it again.

Don29palms
05-15-2012, 9:30 PM
I have a rifle length TJ w/ carbine gas and 16" barrel. I like it very much.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg164/don29palms/signature1.jpg

G60
05-15-2012, 9:34 PM
What are you gonna do with it. I have a diamond and don't use any of the rail space. Wasted space IMHO I'd go with the tj rail if I was gonna do it again.

Agreed. Most of my DD RISII rail space is occupied with rail covers.

Dark Sky Solutions
05-15-2012, 9:38 PM
I think the mile of rail on most ARs now days is a waist. Personally I like the TJ except for the name on the side. Here is what I am doing to mine to get rid of it. Just stripped it down, gonna blast it this weekend and add a bit of duracoat150161

digdug74
05-15-2012, 10:02 PM
Had a "Specter" length Diamond rail for a while on my AR. Absolutely rock solid lock up and very nicely machined / manufactured. My only nit picks (and they were just that, nit picks) were that is was rather wide in diameter (which all the "screw on" tubes are so it's hard to fault it there) and it did tend to get a little "warm" when firing (again, however, common to the design).

scotty99
05-15-2012, 10:32 PM
Modular seems to be the way handguards are headed. I don't know anyone who uses even 25% of the space a quad rail provides.

Dreaded Claymore
05-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Buy a smooth rail. The Todd Jarrett ones look great. Otherwise you'll just have to spend more money on rail covers, which will make it really wide.

shadowofnight
05-16-2012, 7:43 AM
The TJ is awesome , just enough rails to be useful....enough bare tube to make it handle really well without rail covers.


Here is the mid-length at a great price, ordered from them numerous times...FAST shipping to CA.

http://www.surplusammo.com/yankee-hill-todd-jarrett-mid-length-free-floating-forearm-yhm-5007-tj/

res2580
05-16-2012, 6:18 PM
thanks for all the input, I'm leaning towards the Todd Jarrett rail now. My project is a YHM 14.5 Fluted barrel with a low profile gas block, and a mid length rail. It will be pinned and welded. So I only have one chance to put a free float rail on my upper.

GettoPhilosopher
05-16-2012, 6:32 PM
It also entirely depends on the size of your hands and how you hold. I agree, most rail space is never used. However, with the way my hands are sized/shaped, I seriously am more comfortable holding my Diamond rail (with no rail covers) than I am with an MOE handguard or (even worse) a USGI handguard.

I'm looking into buying a light quad rail for my dissy not for the rails, but entirely because it feels better. YMMV.

IPSICK
05-16-2012, 6:35 PM
Neither get the JD Machine. CA company

http://www.jdmachinetech.com/merchant2/graphics/00000001/223CHG-01L.jpg (http://www.jdmachinetech.com/product/223RL/223CHG.html)

Dark Sky Solutions
05-16-2012, 6:46 PM
Neither get the JD Machine. CA company

http://www.jdmachinetech.com/merchant2/graphics/00000001/223CHG-01L.jpg (http://www.jdmachinetech.com/product/223RL/223CHG.html)

JD does make a nice one. I have handled it and will be carrying them soon. Personally I like the design of the TJ better and the price. If u want more options then I would go with the JD. If u aren't going to use more rail space than what is on the TJ it is good.

I have noticed I wished I had one more rung on my TJ front bottom rail to fit my forward grip better. As of now it hangs off about 1/4"

IPSICK
05-16-2012, 6:54 PM
JD does make a nice one. I have handled it and will be carrying them soon. Personally I like the design of the TJ better and the price. If u want more options then I would go with the JD. If u aren't going to use more rail space than what is on the TJ it is good.

I have noticed I wished I had one more rung on my TJ front bottom rail to fit my forward grip better. As of now it hangs off about 1/4"

I thought the TJ cost more and to me the main design difference is the barrel nut.

Dark Sky Solutions
05-16-2012, 8:39 PM
I thought the TJ cost more and to me the main design difference is the barrel nut.

No you can shop around and get the TJ cheaper than the JD at certain times of the year.

What is the difference in the barrel nut? I have the TJ but have not seen the installation of the barrel nut. Any pics? U might change my mind lol

Sam .223
05-16-2012, 8:47 PM
i had a quad rail and switched out to a JP VTAC, the extra rails are a bit pricey but i like the smoother handguard and i think it looks better than rail covers.

socalbowhunter
05-16-2012, 9:10 PM
I put a rifle length Diamond on my midlength CMMG and I love it.
Is there a reason you're going mid instead of rifle?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531198_3613206364247_1096411390_33388312_140457954 3_n.jpg

res2580
05-16-2012, 9:21 PM
Im going mid length because i still want to see the fluting on my 14.5 barrel. Just for tacticool!

GettoPhilosopher
05-17-2012, 12:29 PM
Im going mid length because i still want to see the fluting on my 14.5 barrel. Just for tacticool!

The diamond rail will show off the fluting....just like it does on my SDM-R.

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IPSICK
05-17-2012, 12:53 PM
No you can shop around and get the TJ cheaper than the JD at certain times of the year.

What is the difference in the barrel nut? I have the TJ but have not seen the installation of the barrel nut. Any pics? U might change my mind lol

The JD is a two-piece barrel nut design similar to the JP VTAC.

http://jprifles.com/photos_new/handguardnut.jpg

The outer nut attaches to the receiver and the hanguard sleeves over the outer nut. The barrel nut threads into the outer nut to secure the barrel.

Dark Sky Solutions
05-17-2012, 7:06 PM
The JD is a two-piece barrel nut design similar to the JP VTAC.

http://jprifles.com/photos_new/handguardnut.jpg

The outer nut attaches to the receiver and the hanguard sleeves over the outer nut. The barrel nut threads into the outer nut to secure the barrel.

I didn't know how theirs worked. I like that. Thanks for the info

the led farmer
05-18-2012, 9:08 AM
another vote for the TJ. I didn't need or like all the rail space so i went with the TJ. http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n614/jraczka/IMG_2849.jpg

res2580
05-20-2012, 5:39 PM
Finally took my upper home yesterday. Thanks to Parallax for putting together my current dream upper and thanks to calgun buddies for helping me decide on my rail. Almost done, I still need a FA BCG and an Eotech 511. I'm still saving for both, kids first before hobby.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z188/res2580/IMG_7474.jpg

Dark Sky Solutions
05-20-2012, 6:15 PM
Finally took my upper home yesterday. Thanks to Parallax for putting together my current dream upper and thanks to calgun buddies for helping me decide on my rail. Almost done, I still need a FA BCG and an Eotech 511. I'm still saving for both, kids first before hobby.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z188/res2580/IMG_7474.jpg

Very nice!!! When u r ready for your FA BCG let me know. Pm me for price

osis32
05-20-2012, 6:38 PM
Do not get a 511. The one I have is a $300 paper weight.

res2580
05-20-2012, 6:41 PM
Do not get a 511. The one I have is a $300 paper weight.

oh I mean 512 not 511. still not sure, I had a strikefire vortex and I like it. but if the kids permit, I'll get a 512.

osis32
05-20-2012, 6:44 PM
Even the 512 is Meh. Take a look at the vortex sparc while you're at it. Sweet rig BTW I'm sure you'll love it.