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Paladin
05-12-2012, 6:57 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed before and haven't done a detail comparison of this vs CA law vs department practices....

How are we going to get rid of the requirement that we can only carry the HGNs listed on our LTC application?

Using the DMV drivers license analogy, we would have to list all the automobiles that we want to be licensed to drive (incl. at minimum, each of their make, model, and VIN; most likely also have to specify the displacement of the engine, number of gallons their tank can hold, whether the transmission is manual or automatic), and then demonstrate proficiency w/each before the licensing authority (e.g., take a driving test behind the wheel of each of the cars listed). After that, if we are ever caught driving ANY other car on public roads, even if the same make & model (and year), we'd get our license to drive pulled! (and may never get another license to drive)

If we don't have such infringements upon our "privilege to drive" on public roads, why should we tolerate such infringements upon our "right to keep and bear arms"???

How do we get rid of this onerous burden on our RKBA protected by the 2nd A?

adamsreeftank
05-12-2012, 9:06 AM
Couldn't agree more. Our sherriff ony allows two guns on the permit.

cdtx2001
05-12-2012, 9:11 AM
Until more things change (lawsuits), the RTKBA will continue to be treated as a privilege and not a right, just like driving.

uyoga
05-12-2012, 9:25 AM
Good analogy, Paladin. This needs to be addressed.

It appears that the emphasis at the moment is to abolish the "Good Cause" and "Good Moral Character" requirements now existing to ensure that more and more otherwise not disqualified individuals are able to acquire an LTC.

We probably need to go shall issue first, or at the same time your proposal is implemented.

sleeper2020
05-12-2012, 10:03 AM
Until more things change (lawsuits), the RTKBA will continue to be treated as a privilege and not a right, just like driving.

Driving is a privilage, there isn't a right to drive. the 2nd amendment though is a constitutional right. Its funny how you have more freedom to exercise a privilage than you do to exercise your constitutional right.

12voltguy
05-12-2012, 10:09 AM
Driving is a privilage, there isn't a right to drive. the 2nd amendment though is a constitutional right. Its funny how you have more freedom to exercise a privilage than you do to exercise your constitutional right.

cheer up
at least they are charging us $$ to use out right to ltc:rolleyes:
just live driving a car:TFH:

ptoguy2002
05-12-2012, 11:03 AM
Very good comparison, and I'd agree, but most people here can't even get the LTC, so IMHO, priorities....

mag360
05-12-2012, 12:49 PM
the ltc could say, based on qualifying with a type of weapon.

revolver/derringer (all)
semi-auto pistol (all)
aow/sbr/sbs (no qualification on record)

NoJoke
05-12-2012, 4:11 PM
the ltc could say, based on qualifying with a type of weapon.

revolver/derringer (all)
semi-auto pistol (all)
aow/sbr/sbs (no qualification on record)

Excellent -
Similar to:
Class A drivers license (semi, bus, large RV)
Class C drivers license (what we all start out with)
Class M drivers license (motorcycle)

mag360
05-12-2012, 4:44 PM
should be an easy clean up bill for next year. Give it to correa or wright. What sucs now is wright is no longer on the senate public safety committee.

kln5
05-12-2012, 4:45 PM
Excellent -
Similar to:
Class A drivers license (semi, bus, large RV)
Class C drivers license (what we all start out with)
Class M drivers license (motorcycle)

For class A drivers licence can be restricted to automatic transmissions if that's what you take your drivers test in.