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Kram12085
04-30-2012, 5:08 PM
Specifically, Los Angeles light rail (i.e. Goldline, Redline)? They say no weapons allowed, but is an assembled lower (without an upper receiver) considered a weapon?

Capybara
04-30-2012, 5:14 PM
You had to DROS it, it is a firearm legally. Even a stripped lower would be against their rules. I wouldn't do it (I shoot video for Metro and ride all of the trains a lot). Nobody ever said California gun laws were logical or made sense.

Kram12085
04-30-2012, 5:15 PM
You had to DROS it, it is a firearm legally. Even a tripped lower would be against their rules. I wouldn't do it (I shoot video for Metro and ride all of the trains a lot).

Figures. I think I decided against it already but still curious to know.

JDoe
04-30-2012, 5:37 PM
Sure it is drosed as a rifle but does a lower fit the LA Light Rail definition of a weapon?

The Original Godfather
04-30-2012, 5:58 PM
I'm sure the odds (and law enforcement/LA light rail) would be against you if you did bring it with you. Then again, I'm sure it would go unnoticed and most people wouldn't even know what it is.


What's sad is that if you take the light rail to a gun shop to buy a gun, you'd presumably be taking the light rail to get back home. I'm sure the city expects someone to walk back home in that scenario. :rolleyes: And I'm sure they'd make people walk to the range, too, since they'd have a firearm with them...

bohoki
04-30-2012, 6:24 PM
if its stripped and you put a chain through the buffer hole wouldn't it be jewelry?

jj805
04-30-2012, 7:09 PM
What about a completed 80% striped lower. No DROS on that.

Munk
04-30-2012, 10:35 PM
Once it's a fully usable lower (or beyond the 80% threshold, however THAT's determined) then it is the "Gun" part of all the pieces (Since they had to declare that some part of all the little fiddly bits was the "gun" that it all centered around).

This means you would be taking a gun onto the metro, which I'm pretty sure they frown upon.

Capybara
04-30-2012, 10:59 PM
Get a friend to give you a ride, take a taxi or bike. Not worth getting arrested for. They do have random Metro police riding all of those cars, looking for fare poachers, gang bangers and troublemakers. Not worth a trip to jail IMHO.

SPaikmos
05-01-2012, 7:45 AM
So bringing a fully assembled upper is ok?

Does it make a difference if the AR lower is in a locked container? That should be sufficient for walking around anywhere in the city (except federal buildings) but what about the metro?

emcon5
05-01-2012, 8:50 AM
if its stripped and you put a chain through the buffer hole wouldn't it be jewelry?

That is funny.....

gun toting monkeyboy
05-01-2012, 9:39 AM
So they have been flogging the value of public transportation here in California for the last 40 years, trying to get all of us to sign off on their stupidity and leave our cars behind. But they won't allow you to transport a weapon, even legally in a locked case? Really? And how exactly does that pass constitutional muster? It is supposed to be public transportation. How does exercising a constitutional right keep you from using what your tax dollars have already paid for?

-Mb

Capybara
05-01-2012, 9:48 AM
Sigh...
It's California. You know that our constitutional rights are not a concern to Sacramento or policy makers all over the state. As a lifelong resident, born and raised here, California has has sadly evolved to a socialist nanny state and will continue along that path as long as it is ruled by the type of people who govern and rule it now.

Glock22Fan
05-01-2012, 5:20 PM
if its stripped and you put a chain through the buffer hole wouldn't it be jewelry?

But, if you disguise it as jewelry, or anything else, then it falls foul of some other law :rolleyes: