View Full Version : Tampa, FL Seeks To Annul 1st And 2nd Amendment Rights

04-28-2012, 8:07 AM
Due to previous thread being locked, here's a repost with better title.

Tampa seems to think they're a little above everyone else, including the rights of citizens. Well, during the Dem or Rep conventions they want to strip away the right to carry a firearm even if licensed to do so. They also want to have sanctioned areas and times for protesting.


04-28-2012, 8:17 AM
This is merely opportunism on the part of the disarmament lobby. Any event where political bigwigs will be attending is going to become a "gun free zone" whether the local government wants it to or not. The US Secret Service and Department of Diplomatic Security have zero humor when it comes to protecting their principles. The NRA convention is a good example of this.

Florida's governor should file this request in its appropriate file drawer, that being the drawer marked "Trash" with a shredder atop it.

04-28-2012, 8:22 AM
Agreed, scaring politicians with our guns is actually what the second amendment is all about. Though that phrasing is a bit awkward, I mean it, the entire point of it is to make them think twice before doing anything rash, realizing an armed citizenry can make their disapproval felt keenly.

04-28-2012, 8:57 AM
The article is also factually inaccurate in that it asserts persons with felony convictions can get a CCW in Florida.

04-28-2012, 9:35 AM
Tampa City Council:

Mike Suarez -Democratic Party head, Councilman District 1
Mary Mulhern - Democrat, Councilwoman District 2.
YVONNE YOLIE Capin - Democrat, Councilwoman District 3
COHEN, HARRY M - Democrat, Councilman District 4
Frank Reddick - Democrat, Councilman District 5
Charlie Miranda - Democrat, Councilman District 6
Lisa Montelione - Democrat, Councilwoman District 7

Anyone surprised?
Well, maybe FairfaxCA is...;)

04-28-2012, 10:00 AM
Please try. Because of the time sensitive nature of the case I'm sure Alan Gura would prevail much more quickly than some of his other cases. Fill the coffers please.

04-28-2012, 1:19 PM
Typical knee jerk, liberal thought process - the streets will flow red with blood if guns are available and there is disagreement.

Perhaps any protests in Tampa during the RNC will be very civilized due to the fact that folks are armed?

04-28-2012, 2:47 PM
Not really surprised tbh. The SS would be acting like they're on PCP if they thought people were allowed to carry lol.

04-28-2012, 5:53 PM
The article is also factually inaccurate in that it asserts persons with felony convictions can get a CCW in Florida.

Yes indeed.

The author of the article writes Notwithstanding felony convictions and documented mental health issues, Floridians that can demonstrate competency with a firearm can apply for a concealed carry permit while Florida (http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/eligible.html) says Possible Reasons for Ineligibility:

The physical inability to handle a firearm safely.
A felony conviction (unless civil and firearm rights have been restored by the convicting authority).
Having adjudication withheld or sentence suspended on a felony or misdemeanor crime of violence unless three years have elapsed since probation or other conditions set by the court have been fulfilled.
A conviction for a misdemeanor crime of violence in the last three years.
A conviction for violation of controlled substance laws or multiple arrests for such offenses.
A record of drug or alcohol abuse.
Two or more DUI convictions within the previous three years.
Being committed to a mental institution or adjudged incompetent or mentally defective.
Failing to provide proof of proficiency with a firearm.
Having been issued a domestic violence injunction or an injunction against repeat violence that is currently in force.
Renouncement of U.S. citizenship.
A dishonorable discharge from the armed forces.
Being a fugitive from justice.
To be hyper-technical, an ineligible person might apply, but they are highly unlikely to get the license.

Here's an article with a different perspective: http://www2.tbo.com/news/republican-national-convention/2012/apr/13/convention-will-have-gun-free-zone-ar-391912/ Florida's gun laws block the city from acting to limit guns, but the Secret Service plans to turn away anyone who approaches the convention gates with a firearm.

Secret Service spokesman George Ogilvie said this week that only law enforcement officers will be allowed to carry guns during the convention within a security perimeter, which has not yet been designated.

If someone tries to enter the convention grounds with a forgotten gun in a purse or pocket — as happens from time to time at airports around the country — the person will be turned away, Ogilvie said.