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MrTenX
04-28-2007, 3:10 PM
This twit has apparently got it all figured out.
Suggest you send him an email letting him know what an idiot he is.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070425/OPINION04/704250310/0/OPINION

Article published Wednesday, April 25, 2007
The disarming of America

Last week's tragedy at Virginia Tech in which a mentally disturbed person gunned down 32 of America's finest - intelligent young people with futures ahead of them - once again puts the phenomenon of an armed society into focus for Americans.

The likely underestimate of how many guns are wandering around America runs at 240 million in a population of about 300 million. What was clear last week is that at least two of those guns were in the wrong hands.

When people talk about doing something about guns in America, it often comes down to this: "How could America disarm even if it wanted to? There are so many guns out there."

Because I have little or no power to influence the "if" part of the issue, I will stick with the "how." And before anyone starts to hyperventilate and think I'm a crazed liberal zealot wanting to take his gun from his cold, dead hands, let me share my experience of guns.

As a child I played cowboys and Indians with cap guns. I had a Daisy Red Ryder B-B gun. My father had in his bedside table drawer an old pistol which I examined surreptitiously from time to time. When assigned to the American embassy in Beirut during the war in Lebanon, I sometimes carried a .357 Magnum, which I could fire accurately. I also learned to handle and fire a variety of weapons while I was there, including Uzis and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.

I don't have any problem with hunting, although blowing away animals with high-powered weapons seems a pointless, no-contest affair to me. I suppose I would enjoy the fellowship of the experience with other friends who are hunters.

Now, how would one disarm the American population? First of all, federal or state laws would need to make it a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and one year in prison per weapon to possess a firearm. The population would then be given three months to turn in their guns, without penalty.

Hunters would be able to deposit their hunting weapons in a centrally located arsenal, heavily guarded, from which they would be able to withdraw them each hunting season upon presentation of a valid hunting license. The weapons would be required to be redeposited at the end of the season on pain of arrest. When hunters submit a request for their weapons, federal, state, and local checks would be made to establish that they had not been convicted of a violent crime since the last time they withdrew their weapons. In the process, arsenal staff would take at least a quick look at each hunter to try to affirm that he was not obviously unhinged.

It would have to be the case that the term "hunting weapon" did not include anti-tank ordnance, assault weapons, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, or other weapons of war.

All antique or interesting non-hunting weapons would be required to be delivered to a local or regional museum, also to be under strict 24-hour-a-day guard. There they would be on display, if the owner desired, as part of an interesting exhibit of antique American weapons, as family heirlooms from proud wars past or as part of collections.

Gun dealers could continue their work, selling hunting and antique firearms. They would be required to maintain very tight inventories. Any gun sold would be delivered immediately by the dealer to the nearest arsenal or the museum, not to the buyer.

The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm.

Clearly, since such sweeps could not take place all across the country at the same time. But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms. If there were, those carrying them would be subject to quick confiscation and prosecution. On the streets it would be a question of stop-and-search of anyone, even grandma with her walker, with the same penalties for "carrying."

The "gun lobby" would no doubt try to head off in the courts the new laws and the actions to implement them. They might succeed in doing so, although the new approach would undoubtedly prompt new, vigorous debate on the subject. In any case, some jurisdictions would undoubtedly take the opportunity of the chronic slowness of the courts to begin implementing the new approach.

America's long land and sea borders present another kind of problem. It is easy to imagine mega-gun dealerships installing themselves in Mexico, and perhaps in more remote parts of the Canadian border area, to funnel guns into the United States. That would constitute a problem for American immigration authorities and the U.S. Coast Guard, but not an insurmountable one over time.

There could conceivably also be a rash of score-settling during hunting season as people drew out their weapons, ostensibly to shoot squirrels and deer, and began eliminating various of their perceived two-footed enemies. Given the general nature of hunting weapons and the fact that such killings are frequently time-sensitive, that seems a lesser sort of issue.

That is my idea of how it could be done. The desire to do so on the part of the American people is another question altogether, but one clearly raised again by the Blacksburg tragedy.

Dan Simpson, a retired diplomat, is a member of the editorial boards of The Blade and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

The Soup Nazi
04-28-2007, 3:20 PM
Someone build him a time machine set for 1939 Germany. Otherwise he should be deported to a nation which doesn't have a constitution.

Mark_in_Pasadena
04-28-2007, 3:44 PM
Someone build him a time machine set for 1939 Germany. Otherwise he should be deported to a nation which doesn't have a constitution.

Actually they took the weapons before the Nazi's and Hitler came to power. The same thing happened in Russia...

CalNRA
04-28-2007, 7:19 PM
send him to Mexico. They got more strict gun laws than we do.

ARRRR-15
04-28-2007, 9:19 PM
send him to Mexico. They got more strict gun laws than we do.

They do? Then why do I keep hearing about shootings down there? You'd think there wouldn't be any guns at all if you took them away, right? :rolleyes: .

CalNRA
04-28-2007, 9:21 PM
They do? Then why do I keep hearing about shootings down there? You'd think there wouldn't be any guns at all if you took them away, right? :rolleyes: .

everyone knows that only military calibers like 9mm kill, that's why you can't have them down there. 38 Super? go nuts.

Bizcuits
04-28-2007, 9:49 PM
The person who wrote that has obviously never spent a day in the life of security or law enforcement. In california the prisons and jails are already full of hard core criminals. Law enforcement officers let hundreds of criminals go a night in california. Why? Because we don't have the money or room to handle them all.

In foot hill farms my partner caught a black male juvenile hiding in a dumpster with a ruger .22. The kid was 16 years old and had sawed the stock off of the rifle. It was found to be non-registered.

The kid was let go and the weapon was confiscated. I see this happen all the time. Why does it happen? Not enough man power or money.

chris
04-28-2007, 9:52 PM
this article sounds very familiar to me. i think i have read something like this several years ago. anyway the writer can kiss my Arse.

kap
04-28-2007, 10:35 PM
Wow, just wow. To think that a freedom loving citizen thinks it is a good idea to have entire blocks searched for "illegal guns" is just plain rediculous. I am even more amazed that a former diplomat from our country would type such things. Has this guy even read the BOR or the 4th amendment? I guess he would have been happy had the Germans won WWII then we would have all the suprise home searches we could even want including our unwanted family members disappearing in the middle of the night and in plain daylight. The logic of stupid people just amazes me.

spgk380
04-29-2007, 7:13 AM
yes, and the day this happens is the day I decide it is no longer worth living in Amerika---and I i'm not going to move either.

USMCM16A2
04-29-2007, 7:48 AM
Gents/Ladies,


Who the hell is this clown? Any who, I wrote a stinging rebuke to his empty-headed diatribe. He obviously works for a paper that is in need of a few sales. He sounds like hundreds of other Rosie clones who would like to see our country turned into a big safe rubber room where everybody gets along and there are no firearms. BOY, this guys mother had 2 *******s and he was one of them.

Have a good day, USMCM16A2:mad: :mad: :mad:

SemiAutoSam
04-29-2007, 8:28 AM
What country is this nut from. He does not sound like an American.

This explains it: "Dan Simpson, a retired diplomat, is a member of the editorial boards of The Blade and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette."

Interesting as to what kind of material is left when they publish the newspaper this guy is on the "editorial boards". and he seems to have a somewhat socialist attitude about RKBA.





http://toimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=TO&Date=20070425&Category=OPINION04&ArtNo=704250310&Ref=AR&MaxW=240

kap
04-29-2007, 8:40 AM
What country is this nut from. He does not sound like an American.


http://toimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=TO&Date=20070425&Category=OPINION04&ArtNo=704250310&Ref=AR&MaxW=240

Obviously a former SS member. :rolleyes:

Outlaw Josey Wales
04-29-2007, 9:32 AM
Obviously a former SS member. :rolleyes:

Former?

Geoman
04-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Disarming of America??? There will be unintended consequences from Dan Simpson’s tactic. One could be simply cache the weapons offsite before the mass search. After all we will know its coming for a long time. Then… Here is where it gets interesting. Simply stash an unregistered POS gun on/in your favorite lib/gun hater’s home/property. Make sure he/her gets turned in and then he/her is off to prison for a year. When they get out do it again, and again.

Any idea of the constitution being upheld will be gone. If they tried it, the LEO’s and the politicians will most likely need to travel in armored cars from that day forward. Our founding fathers planted the 2nd for this reason, so when the time comes the people can enforce what’s right.

jumbopanda
04-29-2007, 12:04 PM
We should all pitch in and buy this guy a one-way plane ticket to the Communist nation of his choice...

Super_tactical
04-29-2007, 12:15 PM
Sounds like he needs to be killed by a gangbanger with an illegal knife.

MIKEUSMC2005
04-29-2007, 1:55 PM
What is this guys point?

Scenario:

The 2nd Amendment has been abolished. All American's have to turn in the firearms (Mandatory). A large percentage complies to avoid fines and jail time.

What happens next, ok, some accidental shootings go down. After that, the murder rate goes sky high, (OUT OF CONTROL). Crime is at an all time high, we become the laughing stock of the world. Tourists don't want to come here, they would be afraid of being a statistic on the CDC's website. The UK and AUS have already proven this; CRIME AND MURDER has surpassed that of the US.

The next cry would be, how come the Government is not doing something to reduce the crime/ murder rate? Hmmmm, maybe because people have to defend themselves with baseball bats, when the criminals/gang-bangers have guns.

THE LAW OF COMMON SENSE.

Am I missing anything here?

ravenbkp
04-29-2007, 5:44 PM
OMG this loser took our salt and gold for 20-30 years? What do they teach em now at the Dept. of State?

No 4th amendment, no Second, no Tenth just go get em!

I wonder if we can get his pension shut off for being an living breathing felony pile of steaming.................well never mind :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: mind.

rocknut
05-02-2007, 9:15 AM
yes, and the day this happens is the day I decide it is no longer worth living in Amerika---and I i'm not going to move either.

Same here.

scewper
05-02-2007, 9:29 AM
First of all, federal or state laws would need to make it a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and one year in prison per weapon to possess a firearm.

I've got an idea! How about we make it illegal to kill someone else? Then we'll have no more homicides. Oh wait, lets make cocaine and marijuana, etc illegal. That will get rid of all the drugs in America! These people are so stupid...