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CK_32
04-23-2012, 8:01 PM
Alright so my cousin made me rent out a ruger something or other in .357 at the firing line about a week ago and the thing was dam accurate in single action. Was able to hit a tennis ball 4 of 5 times at about 23 yards 2 times while it was swinging from the first 2 hits. I couldn't even do that with my buddy's night hawk 1911 in 45ACP. And the flames out the cylinder gave me a slight chubby. (Pic of us shooting it as my avatar actually)

I'm assuming its a SP101 or a GP100 and I've been thinking about it ever since. And now I want one and officially got bit by the bug.

So my question is I'm looking into the SP101 or GP100 model with about a 4.2 to 6" barrel. 6 looks so long in pictures but 4 looks a tad short. I think the one I shot was a 6" but kinda want a 4" looks better IMO.

But I want to start with the basics. School me on revolvers a little. Should I be looking at another revolver or are these Rugers great revolvers for sub $700?

I hate to ask but whats one of the top sub $700 revolvers out there I should take a look at. I gatta have a revolver!

And this might be my new night stand gun and be replacing my Glock 17. So application is possible HD in .357 maybe 4" for sure my new range toy. And if possible in black again sub $700. Think that looks awesome!

So suggestions and any info welcome!

Ive been googling my a** off since I got home from work so dont say search and send me on my way please. Ive already so lost and am like a kid in a candy store.

NapaCountyShooter
04-23-2012, 8:06 PM
I have the stainless GP100 4". Great gun. It can take any load you want to throw at it and very accurate. The S&W 686 has great fit and finish, but I've been happy with my GP.
http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx208/JEdwards80/DSC02807800x600.jpg

ckprax
04-23-2012, 8:08 PM
I wrote this up for this reason. Post two should be helpful

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=544884

I would recommend a 4" GP100 or S&W 686.

lrj812
04-23-2012, 8:36 PM
I have owned my S&W 686 6" barrel since 1986. Recently I have shot over 300 rds. of my reloaded ammo of varying mix to get reacquainted . It is amazing what you can load with a .357. I had 140 gr. hp screaming out of there at 1700 fps with flame thrower finish, simply intoxicating. Dead on accurate. You could knock something down out to 50 yds. It is a versatile bullet.

My biased vote is a S&W 686 6" for extra sight radius and velocity you will not regret a purchase of this fine gun.

lrj812
04-23-2012, 8:36 PM
I have owned my S&W 686 6" barrel since 1986. Recently I have shot over 300 rds. of my reloaded ammo of varying mix to get reacquainted . It is amazing what you can load with a .357. I had 140 gr. hp screaming out of there at 1700 fps with flame thrower finish, simply intoxicating. Dead on accurate. You could knock something down out to 50 yds. It is a versatile bullet.

My biased vote is a S&W 686 6" for extra sight radius and velocity you will not regret a purchase of this fine gun.

sumdood
04-23-2012, 8:38 PM
An SP101 will only have a 3" barrel max. Also only 5 shots.

Love mine.

NapaCountyShooter
04-23-2012, 8:48 PM
An SP101 will only have a 3" barrel max. Also only 5 shots.

Love mine.

They do make a 4" version now, but either way, I'd go GP for an HD/Range gun.

Fishslayer
04-23-2012, 8:59 PM
You won't go wrong with the Ruger. The GP100 has a long & proven record. Google is your friend.

I do believe the shorter Ruger barrels on the GP100 are 4.2" for the Canadian market.

cannon
04-23-2012, 9:14 PM
The Ruger and the Smith 686 are both fantastic revolvers. Can't go wrong with either. Shoot em both and pick a winner.

CK_32
04-23-2012, 9:32 PM
You won't go wrong with the Ruger. The GP100 has a long & proven record. Google is your friend.

I do believe the shorter Ruger barrels on the GP100 are 4.2" for the Canadian market.

Wait so you can't buy a 4"? Only snub or 6"? That's wack!

Anyone know why that is?

CK_32
04-23-2012, 9:42 PM
Ok I think that's untrue because I found several 4" on calguns. Are they all SA? Only ones I've found is SA? Is that cause of the roster bs?

Sorry for the dumb a** questions I've been out of the gun game for a while.

Flintlock Tom
04-24-2012, 12:52 PM
All the GP100s and SP101s are SA/DA.
The GP100 (medium frame, 6 round) comes with a 3", 4.2" or 6" barrel.
The SP101 (small frame, 5 round) comes with 2.25", 3.06" or 4.2" barrel.
Sturm-Ruger (http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/models.html)
When someone says theirs has a "4 inch barrel", they're referring to the 4.2".

creepyoldgamer
04-24-2012, 12:59 PM
Can't go wrong with the Ruger GP100 or the S&W 686. Your price point would likely lend itself towards the GP100. I have a GP100 and love it. 4 and 6 inch barrel is really a matter of preference, go to your LGS and hold a few.

sargenv
04-24-2012, 1:16 PM
If you want something inexpensive and fairly bullet proof, the GP is a good revo.. if you want something that you can tune the trigger and you want to shoot it in competition, the S&W holds the edge in that regard.. I own both..

redhemi
04-24-2012, 1:44 PM
You can't go wrong with a Ruger. My first handgun was and still is a GP100 4" stainless. I've changed springs and a lite polish on the trigger parts and now the action is lite and smooth. Also some of the early Ruger 357s like the Security Six and Speed Six are good shooters. You can find these in for sale forum at fair to good prices it just depends on what your looking for.

And now a shameless plug http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=556780&highlight=security+six

scarville
04-24-2012, 1:54 PM
Unless you have a specific need, my recommendation for a first centerfire revolver is a full sized gun with a 4" barrel in 357 magnum caliber. That combination is about the most flexible you can get for what I consider a reasonable price. The best examples of the configuration presently being made are the Ruger GP100 and the S&W 686. If you shop around street prices on either will be in the neighborhood of your price point (before taxes and other crap) but the GP100 will be around $100 or so less than a comparable 686.

Taurus and Rossi have spotty quality and, IMO, are not worth the asking prices at this time.

Don't overlook the used market -- I've picked up some pretty good deals in the past year. A S&W K-Frame or a Ruger Security Six are both good guns. In fact, my first revolver was a Security Six I bought in 1975. I still have it after all these years

The SP101 is a special case because it is fits somewhere between the J-frame and the K/L frame sized guns.

The write up by ckprax will be very helpful in making a smart choice.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=146249&d=1334955929

nikki#2
04-24-2012, 1:55 PM
No experience with the GP100... I chose an S&W 686 4" after owning both 4" and 6" S&W 617 .22LR revolvers... and preferring the 4" barrel.
It so happens that the 686 and 617 are very similar in size, weight, and feel. Plus the 617 10-shot is a "Must Own" in it's own right and makes an excellent steel challenge pistol.

In the nightstand, the 686 wears Crimson Trace grips. When out plinking and having a great time with my girlfriend, the 617 wears the (same) Crimson Traces... ;)

The combo works for me. :thumbsup:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/686r.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/surfdog_photos/CTC6172.jpg

Squid
04-24-2012, 2:03 PM
I'd go with 6" Ruger 100 in all black. At least that is high on my wish list.

I don't think it is too long, unless you need to holster it and be in and out of car all day. 6" is mostly considered 'just right'.


PS if you do need to holster a 6" you could get one of those pivot holsters sported by Shaun Penn's charactor in "Colors". Very showy the way the gun is flopping all around all the time.

Can't buy anything here
04-24-2012, 3:18 PM
You have to handle the 4" and 6" to see what feels right to you. I have a 6" model 19 and 17...but balance wise, I prefer 4 inchers...they just feel better balanced in my hand.

Smith 19
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/sipowicz/smith_grips1.jpg

Smith 17 (22)
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/sipowicz/17better.jpg

SP101s are fun guns also...even with the sub 3" barrel...
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/sipowicz/P1070454.jpg

jazman
04-24-2012, 3:39 PM
Love wheel guns, love 4 inch barrels, and suggest you cannot go wrong with either the GP or the Smith. I would buy the Smith (and have), but you should shoot both and get the one that feels right to you. OR, save up for a while and find a Colt Python, and call it a day. Expensive, but think about it, it's only money and one always seems to get more money, so go for it.:D

marklyftogt
04-24-2012, 3:54 PM
I just bought a used S&W Model 66-7 with a 4" barrel. It is a .357 but I plan on just shooting 38 spl mostly. I wanted the K frame as the 686 (L frame) is a bit too big for me and everything else is too small for what I want to do (target shooting). A S&W model 64 (38 spl) was my second choice.

gorenut
04-24-2012, 4:21 PM
GP100s are great. My first handgun was a GP100 6" stainless and it is still til this day one of the more accurate handguns I've ever fired.

If you look around, you can get something in between. The S&W 627 I own is 5"

Also you can find GP100s that also come in 5" barrels, but I don't think they make em anymore (though I'm guessing there were enough built that you can still find one new).
http://www.themarksman.net/item_photos/large/ruger_gp100_5__barrel___357_magnum_1918.jpg


I think for overall use though, you can't go wrong with 4".

TheFlash
04-24-2012, 4:34 PM
I own both Ruger and S&W revolvers.
For single-action revolvers, I give the nod to Ruger. They offer the best value and quality for the price for their single-action revolvers.
For double-action revolvers, I give the nod to S&W. I absolutely LOVE my S&W 686 with a 4"bbl. Bought it many, many years ago and it's still one of the most accurate handguns I've ever shot.

That said, you will shoot the best with the revolver that you feel the most comfortable using.
So, try several S&W and Ruger revolvers and pick the one you like the best. You cannot go wrong with either, so it's just a matter of personal preference for which brand and which 'flavor' you prefer.

Regards,
Mike

rgs1975
04-24-2012, 4:37 PM
What ever you do, you're about to go on a fun journey.

CK_32
04-24-2012, 4:49 PM
Alright I think I've narrowed it down to a GP100 4" .357 now I have to decide SS or Black finish.

nikki#2
04-24-2012, 4:50 PM
"... And this might be my new night stand gun and be replacing my Glock 17. So application is possible HD..."



^ In that case, perhaps you'd want the option of being able to use your revolver in local IDPA-style matches.

Revolvers in the SSR division must be of .38 Caliber (.357" bore) or larger, and utilize rimmed-case ammunition which is loaded into the gun using standard speedloaders or manually -- moon clips cannot be used.
Barrel length must be 4.2" or less (as measured from the front face of the cylinder), and maximum unloaded weight is 42 oz. Seven- and eight-shot revolvers are permitted, but may only load six rounds.

verb1
04-24-2012, 7:22 PM
I have a 4" GP100 also. I owned a 686 years ago, and while I liked it, I far prefer my GP100. I've never been great with revolvers, but my GP100 is really accurate. It absorbs kick well, too. Even with .357 mag shells, the kick is minimal. Great gun!

Red Devil
04-24-2012, 8:25 PM
Ruger Four-Inch 357 Magnum SP101 Double-Action Kit Gun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ecMsCyvZA)

My next revolver. (along w/ the 8-shot .22 LR version)

CK_32
04-24-2012, 10:08 PM
I think the SP has a ugly rhino horn front site.

newbee1111
04-25-2012, 12:01 PM
Would there be any benefit to getting an older pre-lock 686 instead of a new 686 for a gun that would be a range toy?

Budd
04-25-2012, 1:40 PM
Would there be any benefit to getting an older pre-lock 686 instead of a new 686 for a gun that would be a range toy?

resale value.

to the OP - I have a GP 100 and SP101. SP101 is a carry gun. GP100 is my go to gun - extremely accurate with very mild recoil in full house magnum loads.

dougtoni
04-25-2012, 1:52 PM
Go with a S&W. Super accurate. The triggers can be smoothed up like glass. Ive had a 686 since '88. Ive put over fifty thousand rounds throw it and it is still as axcurate as the day i got it. It will never let you down.

ldivinag
04-25-2012, 3:20 PM
get a snub nose S&W 500...

you wont regret it... ;)

CK_32
04-25-2012, 4:17 PM
get a snub nose S&W 500...

you wont regret it... ;)


You mean a hand held flame thrower that happens to shoot a projectile out of it also knows as Chuck Norris' BB gun. Sure why not haha ;)

CK_32
04-25-2012, 4:23 PM
I've also been told the blued looks nice to some but to stay away and go SS. Reasons??

I'm assuming finish because SS is beast when it comes to wear and I know my blues guns seem to like to rust pretty quick if I don't oil them up good.

I love the classic silver wheel gun looks so sexy. But something about a black wheelie just looks so clean and slick to me. More modern I guess. Love black guns. But when I think revolver I think SS every time but at the same time seems like a dime a dozen.

bubbagump
04-25-2012, 4:28 PM
I've also been told the blued looks nice to some but to stay away and go SS. Reasons??

I'm assuming finish because SS is beast when it comes to wear and I know my blues guns seem to like to rust pretty quick if I don't oil them up good.

I love the classic silver wheel gun looks so sexy. But something about a black wheelie just looks so clean and slick to me. More modern I guess. Love black guns. But when I think revolver I think SS every time but at the same time seems like a dime a dozen.

Go Stainless. Less Maintenance.

And remember to buy some snap caps and speedloaders. Practicing manipulation with a wheelgun is fun. I got pretty good with the Colt Detective Clone I used to own.

Can't buy anything here
04-25-2012, 4:32 PM
What's a Colt Detective clone?

bubbagump
04-25-2012, 5:17 PM
What's a Colt Detective clone?

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