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rb765
04-22-2012, 9:16 PM
I introduced my son to shooting and soon he was ready for something that had a little better reach than his .22lr. I talked the wife into letting me build an AR with the promise that nothing would come out of the family budget. So I Ebayed some stuff that I had laying around and soon had enough for my lower. I went to my LGS to get my lower, but they were out. So a friend told me about a group build. I ordered everything for the lower and went to the build.

When I finished the lower I went to order the upper, but it was out of stock at the original place I wanted to order from. The backup was actually a better choice for me, but more expensive and quoted 30-45 days for delivery. Because of the delay, I diddled around and did not get my stock ordered right away. The upper showed up at my door in about 2 weeks leaving me to scramble for a stock. Ok, so I settled on one thing about this build.

I then thought about optics. Since the one I want is a bit out of my range, I settled on ordering one which never came. ARGGGG!!!!. So I ended up getting another scope and rings to go on it so I can take it through it's paces.

So I take the new gun to the range, load the magazines, throw on the USGI Grip Pod that I purchased for it and had everything ready to go. I get lock and load, aim, flip off the safety, pull the trigger and "click". No "boom". After I recovered from my heart attack of my new gun not working, I ejected the round and noticed a healthy dent in the primer. Darn cheap Federal primers!!!. Anyways, the rest of the day was flawless except for a couple more duds. That problem was solved when I switched to different ammo.

I still need to get the stock I want for it, change out the grip pod for a real bipod, and the optics, but all in all, one hole groups at 50 yards using bulk ammo isn't bad. Hopefully next weekend I will be able to get out to the range again and try it out at he 300 yard gongs to see how it does.

I said I wanted to build this AR as a learning experience and it has been just that. Wow, what a learning experience.

Jpach
04-22-2012, 9:22 PM
Congrats on the new AR!

I must ask, as I've never had a dud with .223, did all of the duds happen to be the first round in the mag?

I ask because it may be possible that you "rode" your charging handle and didn't let the bolt fully go into battery.

Jpach
04-22-2012, 9:22 PM
Congrats on the new AR!

I must ask, as I've never had a dud with .223, did all of the duds happen to be the first round in the mag?

I ask because it may be possible that you "rode" your charging handle and didn't let the bolt fully go into battery.

MrPlink
04-22-2012, 9:50 PM
Congrats on the new AR!

I must ask, as I've never had a dud with .223, did all of the duds happen to be the first round in the mag?

I ask because it may be possible that you "rode" your charging handle and didn't let the bolt fully go into battery.


+1 or maybe a spring issue

Agent 0range
04-22-2012, 9:50 PM
Congrats on the new build, but...
:useless:
How about some EBR porn???

rb765
04-23-2012, 4:32 AM
Sorry about the no pics but I have not had any luck uploading them to a server. I will try again this week.

In regards to the magazine issue, it was only the first time once. because I was sighting in, I was only taking shots once every minute or so. Shoot, get up and go to the spotting scope, make adjustment, shoot. I inspected each of the rounds before dumping them in the bad round can and they all had real nice dents in the primer that did not appear to be light strikes. The problem also went away when I switched from Federal bulk to PMC Bronze and Remington UMC.

The good part about trying the three different ammo is I found out that this gun with it's stainless Wylde barrel is not picky. One hole groups at 50 with all of it. They only flyers I attribute to user error.

Also, I forgot to mention the other waste of money I did. I bought BUIS that I had to remove because the scope took up all available space on my rail, so they are now sitting in my bag. I have a PEPR coming in, so hopefully that will leave me a bit more room.

Fractured
04-23-2012, 5:01 AM
The real question is, how does your son like it? Oh and +1 on pics.......

kalbos
04-23-2012, 6:23 AM
Imo leave the buis on and let your son learn how to shoot with those first. He will become a better marksman.

kalbos
04-23-2012, 6:25 AM
Oh and congrats on the build. Welcome to the ar 22 family

Paper Boy
04-23-2012, 7:16 AM
+1 or maybe a spring issue

That was my first thought... I had an issue that was like that, not every round would fire but every round had the primer dent. Turns out it was a weak spring that came in the LPK and once I replaced it I never had the issue again.

NytWolf
04-23-2012, 7:46 AM
The real question is, how does your son like it?

Yeah, how about it? The post started like he was building the AR with the son in mind.

Agent 0range
04-23-2012, 6:48 PM
Imo leave the buis on and let your son learn how to shoot with those first. He will become a better marksman.

:iagree: That's always been my school of thought too. After mastering the iron sights, anything else is just gravy.

Agent 0range
04-23-2012, 6:50 PM
Yeah, how about it? The post started like he was building the AR with the son in mind.

We all need an excuse to give the wife to build an AR!! Obama was my excuse.:cool:

rb765
04-23-2012, 8:13 PM
My son is actually pretty good with iron sites also. He did his first Appleseed with them. The build was actually a compromise for both of us. The match grade Wylde barrel is for him, but everything else is for me. He really prefers a bolt gun, but he is a little bit recoil shy. It does not scare him and he is able to shoot through it, but he just does not like it. To introduce him to recoil, I had him shoot my Remington Model 1100 410 shotgun. It actually kicks less than the AR. I just received the original scope I ordered for it so I will be taking the monstrosity off of it and will replace it with a compact scope. His goal is to shoot out to 1000 yards. This will at least get him to 300-600 yards, then we will do something else for the 600-1000 yard range.

I might go with a .223 bolt gun after this, possibly a MVP since it uses the same magazines as the AR. After that will be something in 243, then 308 (not an AR10). Hopefully the fun of hitting the gong on the 300 yard range will help him overcome his aversion to recoil and we can start building him up to the larger rounds so that he can reach his 1000 yard goal.

Here is my first attempt at a photo. Mind you this is V1 before adding the small rail to the bottom, the Grip Pod, and the monster scope that will be replaced with a compact scope tonight, that will be later replaced with a Leupold Mark AR 3x9 soon.

<a href="http://s391.photobucket.com/albums/oo358/rb765/?action=view&amp;current=IMG262-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo358/rb765/IMG262-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

rb765
04-23-2012, 8:15 PM
Fail on the picture thing. lets try this... BTW, sorry for the bad picture quality.

peterabbits
04-23-2012, 8:19 PM
http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo358/rb765/IMG262-1.jpg

rb765
04-23-2012, 8:20 PM
There are some things I will be replacing as I get a chance. The rear stock will be a Roger's Super Stok. The Scope will be a Leupold mounted on a PEPR first, then a LaRue mount. And the Grip Pod will be changed out for a regular bi-pod. The grip pod is nice, but a bit too high for me and it needs to be adjustable for my son also. the hand guards will also need to be changed to free-floating, but I have not decided what to get yet.

FX-05 Xiuhcoatl
04-23-2012, 8:34 PM
Who's rifle is it? ;)

rb765
04-23-2012, 9:18 PM
He's an only child so even though it's mine, it's really his also. I get stuff with him in mind anyways, so we'll call it 50/50. He had to stay home and do homework when I took it out, but I'm sure he will like it.

Sunday
04-24-2012, 5:04 PM
He's an only child so even though it's mine, it's really his also. I get stuff with him in mind anyways, so we'll call it 50/50. He had to stay home and do homework when I took it out, but I'm sure he will like it.Kids love ARs. Then with a bolt rifle reloading will let you tune the loads for those one hole groups.

arsilva32
04-24-2012, 5:13 PM
hmmm letting me build one for the kid...... thats a good one!, i have 2 kids so thats 2 more guns i might be able to talk my wife into letting me build. he he

rb765
04-26-2012, 11:31 AM
I fianlly was able to take some pictures. It is still a work in progress, but this is where it is at right now. The changes I will be making are replacing the GPS-02 Grip Pod with a Harris Bipod, the Rock River rear stock with a Roger's Super-Stok, replacing the handguards with a freefloating, and adding different back up sites if I can. I took off the Magpul sights as there was no room with the super huge scope I had on it, but want to replace them with Matech's anyways.

http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo358/rb765/Gun%20Stuff/Untitled.jpg

Quickdraw Mcgraw
04-26-2012, 12:12 PM
What upper ya got on it...rock river??

rb765
04-26-2012, 12:23 PM
It is a Tactical Machining 80% lower with CMMG LPK,CA bullet button, Rock River upper with a .223 Wylde SS barrel, Midlength gas, railed gas block, Rock River stock set and rubber butt pad. The mags are Magpuls with the UBBT button and 10 round blocks.

Whoops, forgot the Ergo rail from Botach.

mike_the_wino
04-26-2012, 12:32 PM
I got a similar stock with my Stag and I know why you want to change it out. I have an A2 and a CTR, both of which I prefer to that style.

LikeAllGuns
04-26-2012, 12:33 PM
:iagree: That's always been my school of thought too. After mastering the iron sights, anything else is just gravy.

+ 1

rb765
04-26-2012, 12:49 PM
These stocks are not that bad after the rubber pad that keeps the teeth on the back from digging into your flesh, but I made the mistake of getting to play with one of the new Colts with the Roger's stock. I was sold. I liked it even better than the Magpuls, but they are only available from the manufacturer (Roger's Shooting School).

I may not be getting one of these in the next few weeks because there are two handguns I need to get first, but this rifle will have one if I have anything to say about it.