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mikehaas
04-25-2007, 2:09 PM
NRA Members' Councils of California
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CALNRA: Updated CA Bill Status, 4/25/2007
2:00 PM, 04/25/2007

New information has been posted at http://calnra.com/legs.shtml for the following bills:

AB 334 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab334) LOSS/THEFT REPORTING - AB 334 passed out of the Assembly Appropriations Committee and now goes to the Assembly Floor. Please contact the Assembly members and urge a NO vote on AB 334.

AB 362 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab362) AMMO SALES RECORDS - AB 362 was not heard on April 25, 2007. Please continue to contact the committee members and urge a NO vote on AB 362.

AB 815 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab815) HUNTING PROTECTION - AB 815 was not heard on April 24, 2007. Please continue to contact the Assembly Water, Parks & Wildlife Committee members and urge a YES vote on AB 815.

AB 821 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab821) LEAD AMMO BAN - AB 821 passed out of the Assembly Appropriations Committee and now goes to the Assembly Floor. Please contact the Assembly members and urge a NO vote on AB 821.

AB 854 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab854) PUBLICATIONS - AB 854 passed unanimously out of the Assembly Public Safety Committee and now goes to the Assembly Floor. Please contact the Assembly members and urge a YES vote on AB 854.

AB 912 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab912) MENTORED HUNTING - AB 912 was not heard on April 24, 2007. Please continue to contact the Assembly Water, Parks & Wildlife Committee members and urge a YES vote on AB 912.

AB 1218 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1218) USED HANDGUN SALES - AB 1218 has been heldover by the Assembly Public Safety Committee. Standby for notice when additional action is required.

AB 1357 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1357) HSC EXEMPTION RESTORATION - AB 1357 has been heldover by the Assembly Public Safety Committee. Standby for notice when additional action is required.

AB 1471 (http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1471) MICROSTAMPING - AB 1471 passed out of the Assembly Appropriations Committee and now goes to the Assembly Floor. Please contact the Assembly members and urge a NO vote on AB 1471.

ONE-CLICK service has been established for these issues at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml#oneclick

Mike

Can'thavenuthingood
04-25-2007, 3:43 PM
AB 821 LEAD AMMO BAN - AB 821 passed out of the Assembly Appropriations Committee and now goes to the Assembly Floor. Please contact the Assembly members and urge a NO vote on AB 821.

I listened to this one on the audio feed over the internet.

From what I heard there was no persuasive reasons given to vote against this. The Financial department/officer/headcheese present was asked for cost estimates and he said they had none. One of the other guys on the committee seemed to be as surprised as I was that there was no input pos or neg from state finance. This guy sounded like he needs to be replaced asap.

One of the opposition guys was a reloader and he voiced some prices for bullets but was countered quite nicely by another guy from 'save the condors' with accurate pricing. He was prepared, talked about traceable isotopes from bullets being found in the Condors and lead alternates are not as toxic as lead.

I don't think Cathy Lynch spent 15 seconds at the microphone, seemed rushed. The CRPA lobbyist didn't seem to me to be very well prepared for as long as this issue has been moving forward.

Presentation was hinged on the financial cost to the state as far as the hunters not spending money. Sounded weak and unconvincing. The Chairman was genuinely trying to get all the facts out and those against the bill were given every opportunity to present valid evidence and a sound case against. However it didn't come forth.

This round was lost due to weak arguements and or lack of preparation to present the arguement.

Thanks for posting the roundup Mike.

Vick

mikehaas
04-25-2007, 4:10 PM
[B]AB 821 LEAD AMMO BAN - AB 821 ... there was no persuasive reasons given to vote against this... This round was lost due to weak arguements and or lack of preparation to present the arguement...
Unfortunate. 2 weeks ago, I posted these talking points (from NRA) at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?summary=ab821.1&year=2007

Mike

TALKING POINTS AGAINST AB 821

- AB 821 and similar regulatory restrictions are supported by organizations that are anti-hunting and anti-gun.

- The objective of AB 821 and similar regulatory restrictions is to cripple hunting in the state by banning the use of lead ammunition.

- The survival of California condors is being used as the reason for the ban; however, there is no sound scientific data that the use of lead ammunition for hunting is a serious threat to the condor.

- The California Fish and Game Commission also believes that concrete evidence is not available to make the connection between hunting and the health of California condors. At its meeting in March, the Commission directed the Department of Fish and Game to continue its research and analysis because of gaps in the data.

- The Department's environmental document, which the Department withdrew from public review for more work, acknowledged the lack of scientifically-based documentation of condors feeding on hunter-killed carcasses and ingesting lead ammunition fragments.

- AB 821 and similar regulatory restrictions preempt the critical role that the Commission and the Department play in establishing hunting seasons and hunting requirements. These decisons are only acceptable and credible if based on sound scientific data. AB 821 and similar regulatory restrictions are not based on principles of wildlife management.

- AB 821 and similar regulatory restrictions seek to shortcircuit an established process by legislating a ban in a fact-devoid vacuum.

- AB 821 and similar regulatory restrictions are not designed to protect the California condor. They are designed to cripple hunting.

chris
04-25-2007, 5:30 PM
we need everyone here to send e-mails or call these people and let them know we are against it.

DrjonesUSA
04-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Crap.....bump.......

Can'thavenuthingood
04-26-2007, 7:02 AM
Was this Appropriations meeting recorded as in audio media?
If so, AB 821 was discussed about 10:15 am.

The primary talking points presented keyed on fifnancial costs to the state by the threat of a lack of participation by the hunters. The impression I got was a warning as in "If you pass this, I won't hunt here anymore".

The guy for AB 821 talked of lead ammo isotopes found in Condors and scientific data.

Those were my impressions of the hearing. I didn't get to hear any others but if the other gun bills were all presented like this I'm surprised they weren't all passed.

Was anyone else present at or listening to this hearing?
What were your impressions?

Vick

Taking another look at what passed, all the anti gun bills heard passed through the Appropriations Committee. Hmmm, there's lots of prep work to be done to present these to the full Assembly for defeat.

AfricanHunter
04-26-2007, 5:03 PM
Why wasn't someone from the NRA there to speak? Will the NRA be there at the next round?