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02Caltaco
04-18-2012, 11:51 AM
Im new to firearms and to this forum, this looks like a great forum with lots of good info so I decided to join. I own a tokarev tt-33 handgun that I acquired from my grandfather but have never fired it, I would like to someday. Anyway I decided to purchase a rifle, for my use I felt a .22 rifle would be fine and the fact that ammo is cheap made the choice even easier. I went with a sig 522 classic based on the style, and from the reviews I've read it sounds like a decent shooter. I have about a week before its mine but I'm looking forward to it.

There aren't many gun dealers nearby so I went with big 5 and probably paid a little more than I needed to. Looking on some of the forums I see people have baught these from as low as $299 and quite a few under $400. Its a little late but do you guys know any dealers in the Monterey-San francisco area selling these for under $400?

I also would have preferred the swat model but big 5 didn't have them and unless I found a really good deal on one I really didn't want to spend more than I payed for the classic. I did call sig hoping that the quad rail might be something I could purchase in the future at a reasonable price but no luck, I was told they have to install it at a cost of $299, not gonna happen. Have you guys ever seen the sig quad rails come up for sale?

nastyhabts26
04-18-2012, 12:13 PM
I'm sure for a fraction of that cost you could have a Gun Smith install an aftermarket rail system.
The nice part is you would get to choose what rail you wished to have, not just what Sig offers.

Zartan
04-18-2012, 12:27 PM
Enjoy it!

:useless:

02Caltaco
04-18-2012, 1:26 PM
Enjoy it!

:useless:

Thanks, Im sure it will be fun. For now all I have is this rough tt-33, some day I would like to have someone go over it, clean it up, buy a box of ammo and keep it around for home protection or pop a couple targets occasionally. Ill post a pic of the plane jane 522 when I get it in 7 more days.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/yamahablue/photo-28.jpg

chucksolo69
04-18-2012, 2:26 PM
I have one and really like it. Mine is a first generation so it did not come with sights. Also mine had the old recoil spring rod and had to be upgraded by SIG to the new type. They sent me one of these for free and it took all of 5 minutes to install. I have a Leapers 4x RGB tactical scope on mine and it is a tack driver. Mine has NEVER failed on any ammo whatsoever.

bubbala
04-18-2012, 3:49 PM
love my 3 week old baby. i'm guessing you got the same version from Big 5 like i did.
get the 3 piece rail set from sig $20 +$12 for shipping.
i put a tru glow red/green dot on it.
turners had them for the same as Big 5 's sale price. $449:00

02Caltaco
04-18-2012, 6:34 PM
love my 3 week old baby. i'm guessing you got the same version from Big 5 like i did.
get the 3 piece rail set from sig $20 +$12 for shipping.
i put a tru glow red/green dot on it.
turners had them for the same as Big 5 's sale price. $449:00

Yep $449. I guess near the end of march big 5 had a coupon that would have nocked another 10% off that price, i thought about holding out until that deal came around again but couldn't wait. I was told by a manager the day before buying it that they included the 3 piece rail kit, unfortunately I think he was mistaken, the salesman and I didn't see it in the case.

How do like that red/green dot and what are the details?

Smin
04-18-2012, 7:13 PM
I paid $460ish for mine but I got the 20" barrel. As far as the rail goes, I plan on eventually putting a Samson Quad Rail on it. That's the only one i've found that makes one specific to the Sig 522 other than the one Sig sells.

I don't get mine until next week but i'll post pics once I get it. :)

KB24FREAK
04-19-2012, 8:45 PM
I was in the same boat as you. I ended up buying mine at Big 5 as well. I was lucky when I purchased it because I have a 10% coupon which saved me tax. Ive ran about 1000 rounds in 2 weeks so far. I would go for the samson rail. It looks nice and pretty simple to put on. I will also eventually put one on my sig too. Here is a picture of mine. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=146114&stc=1&d=1334893457

02Caltaco
04-19-2012, 9:12 PM
I was in the same boat as you. I ended up buying mine at Big 5 as well. I was lucky when I purchased it because I have a 10% coupon which saved me tax. Ive ran about 1000 rounds in 2 weeks so far. I would go for the samson rail. It looks nice and pretty simple to put on. I will also eventually put one on my sig too. Here is a picture of mine. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=146114&stc=1&d=1334893457

Lookin good, did yours come with the sig rails? What else do you have on it?

rchow17
04-19-2012, 9:37 PM
You can do what I did and buy the Samson Star 522 rails from brownells for $160.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6945965706_7784d40db9_c.jpg

KB24FREAK
04-20-2012, 12:26 PM
Lookin good, did yours come with the sig rails? What else do you have on it?

I bought the sig rails seperate. I have a utg tac light and a utg tactical bipod. they hold up pretty well because of the minimal recoil. Also im running a weaver 1-4 scope and a vortex sparc not shown.

02Caltaco
04-21-2012, 3:47 PM
So, I decided to go back and talk to the manager that told me the rails were included, glad I did because it turns out they are including the rail kit with the purchase of the 522, for some reason the other salesman didn't know about it even though it's been a promo at least in that store for months. That sweetend the deal a bit.
While I was there I noticed the hk416d was on sale, down from over $700 to $589. I don't know anything about the gun but it felt nice and looked pretty bad ***.

02Caltaco
04-26-2012, 7:57 AM
Finally got to pick it up yesterday, I hope to get to fire it soon. When I looked at it in store I thought I saw a sling in the case, maybe not. Do these usually include a sling? Also no sticker, bummer lol. It has the lock,manual,small tube of lube,sights,larger but pad, 10rnd mag,and the rail kit they threw in.
Heres a couple pics, in the bottom pic you can see the non removable flash hider.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/yamahablue/photo-29.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/yamahablue/photo-30.jpg

victorr
04-26-2012, 8:02 AM
Nice! I have the exact same rifle and have enjoyed shooting it with no issues whatsoever since day 1. Not picky with ammo or anything!

colhazard
04-26-2012, 9:09 AM
Finally got to pick it up yesterday, I hope to get to fire it soon. When I looked at it in store I thought I saw a sling in the case, maybe not. Do these usually include a sling? Also no sticker, bummer lol. It has the lock,manual,small tube of lube,sights,larger but pad, 10rnd mag,and the rail kit they threw in.
Heres a couple pics, in the bottom pic you can see the non removable flash hider.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/yamahablue/photo-29.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/yamahablue/photo-30.jpg


I bought at Big 5 too. I didnt have the sling, its probably not included. I have everything else you mentioned in the package except the small lube and larger butt pad.

Never mind the lube, but does everyone have the larger butt pad included in their Classic package?

Btw, if you need more mag, get the ones from 44mag.com. Black Dog Machine 10rd X-form, Steel Lip, either smoked or black. I have both color after reading reviews that the smoked version was tight. They may be selling new stock because both mags fit perfect, they drop when you release them, and they are easier to load. I dont even use the mag that came with the 522.

jjnavarro
04-26-2012, 9:56 AM
I bought at Big 5 too. I didnt have the sling, its
Btw, if you need more mag, get the ones from 44mag.com. Black Dog Machine 10rd X-form, Steel Lip, either smoked or black. I have both color after reading reviews that the smoked version was tight. They may be selling new stock because both mags fit perfect, they drop when you release them, and they are easier to load. I dont even use the mag that came with the 522.

What do you like about the x-form as opposed to the older, curved type?

KandyRedCoi
04-26-2012, 10:48 AM
i actually prefer the "classic" model better than the others, it has the cleanest look imho

mine came with the heavy bbl (which i never use). no sights, no rails. so i went ahead and got the sig 3pc rail kit and a tasco red dot from walmart.

my favorite out of all my .22 rifles :)

colhazard
04-26-2012, 1:51 PM
What do you like about the x-form as opposed to the older, curved type?

I would have bought the curved type just like the one that came with the 522, but the straight kind are the only ones available on that site with CA compliant 10rds and steel feedclips. I never had the older versions but I googled before I bought, and I read complaints about the smoked version being fatter than the black version, so I just bought 2 different kinds. If Im going to order again, Ill get the smoked ones, they look cooler and more modern on the Sig. The springs are softer to load too, but have no misfeeds. 1400 rounds now, no issues.

KandyRedCoi
04-26-2012, 2:17 PM
i have the smoke 10rd ones and the only issue was the "thickness" instead of sanding down each magazine, i went ahead and took sanded the paint off the reciever for more clearance ...no they work perfect...just wish the rifle had a real BOLT HOLD OPEN feature that didnt realy on the magazine to stay open...would be perfect to drop right off once the release was depressed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/fluxmr2spyder/my%20firearms/98157f6b.jpg

02Caltaco
04-26-2012, 6:25 PM
I bought at Big 5 too. I didnt have the sling, its probably not included. I have everything else you mentioned in the package except the small lube and larger butt pad.

Never mind the lube, but does everyone have the larger butt pad included in their Classic package?

Btw, if you need more mag, get the ones from 44mag.com. Black Dog Machine 10rd X-form, Steel Lip, either smoked or black. I have both color after reading reviews that the smoked version was tight. They may be selling new stock because both mags fit perfect, they drop when you release them, and they are easier to load. I dont even use the mag that came with the 522.

As far as I know the larger butt pad and a couple diferent blocks for the stock have always been included with the classic. The smoked magazine that came with mine fits a little loose and drops out when the mag release is depressed. I would like to get a couple more.

Does your gas block look like mine, like it's cast and not really black? I was in another big 5 today and saw a 522 that had a different style gas block, it was more sqaure, looked like aluminum and was really black.

cgood311
04-27-2012, 8:39 AM
Congrats. Love mine, going out to shoot it today

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8339/20120402135927.jpg

sai08
04-27-2012, 11:19 AM
Congrats. Love mine, going out to shoot it today

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8339/20120402135927.jpg

That's a great looking rifle!:yes:

02Caltaco
04-28-2012, 12:59 PM
I haven't had a chance to fire it yet but I noticed a couple things while handling the rifle. Without having any experience with firearms like this I don't know what type of tolerance is acceptable or normal.
First thing I found was the play in the charging handle, next is that the storage tube above the gas block is loose feeling and wiggles around easily. Another thing and more important part is the upper to lower receiver has some play, its mostly side to side play but some very very slight front to back movement. Its not a lot but again I don't know whats normal or excessive. The side to side play is my main concern, I can see it, feel and hear it.
I would appreciate any info or if you guys notice some of the same issues on your 522's.

Thanks.

victorr
04-28-2012, 2:16 PM
Easy fix!! Simply put an ear plug under the upper/lower rear connector pin (one near the safety).

02Caltaco
04-28-2012, 3:29 PM
Easy fix!! Simply put an ear plug under the upper/lower rear connector pin (one near the safety).

Thanks, Ill give that a try. Do you know that fix because your upper had some side to side play too? So I take it this is common?

victorr
04-28-2012, 3:58 PM
It is common on SIG rifles. Believe it or not, my 556 is worse but this fixes it and makes it tight 110%.

colhazard
04-28-2012, 10:32 PM
I haven't had a chance to fire it yet but I noticed a couple things while handling the rifle. Without having any experience with firearms like this I don't know what type of tolerance is acceptable or normal.
First thing I found was the play in the charging handle, next is that the storage tube above the gas block is loose feeling and wiggles around easily. Another thing and more important part is the upper to lower receiver has some play, its mostly side to side play but some very very slight front to back movement. Its not a lot but again I don't know whats normal or excessive. The side to side play is my main concern, I can see it, feel and hear it.
I would appreciate any info or if you guys notice some of the same issues on your 522's.

Thanks.


I placed a tiny bit of electrical tape inside on the top receiver (where it meets the lower) to fix a bit of a wobble. I observed the side to side play, and it looked like it was missing a half millimeter of space. I dont have a picture but when I get a chance Ill post it. It worked for me, I use the same technique to fix wobbles on my airsoft rifles :) I've shot 400rnds with it, so far so good. The only wobble left is on the retractable stock.

KandyRedCoi
04-29-2012, 12:45 AM
ill check mine when i get home...i dont recall any wobble on my 522 at all...hhmmmmmm

02Caltaco
04-29-2012, 4:19 PM
ill check mine when i get home...i dont recall any wobble on my 522 at all...hhmmmmmm

Post up your findings when you get a chance.

KandyRedCoi
04-29-2012, 4:24 PM
i sure will im out of town and wont be anywhere near my babies til monday night

Smin
04-29-2012, 5:05 PM
I just checked mine and didn't notice any wobbling...

02Caltaco
04-30-2012, 1:25 PM
Easy fix!! Simply put an ear plug under the upper/lower rear connector pin (one near the safety).

I stuck a earplug in that spot and it helped, it doesn't move as easily but still has the side to side play. I need to get my hands on a couple other 522's to see if the play is about the same on mine.

I found another thread on this and found mixed opinions.

KandyRedCoi
04-30-2012, 3:37 PM
just checked mine, very slight side to side wobble on the rear pin by the safety but nothing (imho) thats out of spec...ive ran around 2k+ rds on my 522 with out any hiccups what so ever .... except for spent brass hitting the range divider and burning my face lol

02Caltaco
04-30-2012, 7:13 PM
I need to get it out to the range, If it shoots good then I guess Ill just have to live with the imperfections. Now I wanna know if I have the "canted gas block" lol, is that something thats easy to see or does it really show at the range when trying to 0 the sights?

colhazard
04-30-2012, 7:32 PM
It shoots fine, the small play doesn't really move unless you twist the fore grips. I've attached a photo of my quick fix with electrical tape:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=147763&stc=1&d=1335839192

Sorry if it's dirty, it'll be cleaned after every 600 rounds. The tape can't be seen when the receiver is closed. It took two layers to stop the play.

KandyRedCoi
04-30-2012, 7:42 PM
I need to get it out to the range, If it shoots good then I guess Ill just have to live with the imperfections. Now I wanna know if I have the "canted gas block" lol, is that something thats easy to see or does it really show at the range when trying to 0 the sights?

havent heard about a canted gas block on a 522, but my rifle was pretty easy to ZERO in :D

02Caltaco
04-30-2012, 7:47 PM
Thanks for the pic, looks like that would help.
I tried putting a some tape on last night, lower on that piece, didn't notice a difference but I only put 1 layer.

TechSoldier
05-01-2012, 6:36 PM
I had just a little side to side play. I found that cutting a small piece of paper and folding it 1-2 times over then inserting it between the receiver and the lower worked extremely well. I imagine adding some electrical tape on the inside of the receiver would do the trick as well. Going to see about coming up with a better solution.

Personally I think it would be awesome to have someone manufacture the lower out of metal to keep it nice and tight. The composite lower is the only downfall of this rifle.

02Caltaco
05-01-2012, 6:58 PM
The electrical tape worked great, 2 little strips on each side like in the pic above and zero side play.

02Caltaco
05-27-2012, 12:23 PM
I finally made it out to the range yesterday, it was my first time to a range and first time firing the 522. I decided to setup at 25 yrds, I think any farther out I would need magnified optics.

Right now I just have the Sig iron sights, I was disappointed to find that I needed to adjust the windage on the rear sight all the way to the right and elevation all the way up, even with that I still needed to aim very slight right and cover the target with the tip of the front sight. I forgot my allen wrench to adjust windage up front,next time.

Im wondering if this is a sign of a canted gas block ?? Also is there a small spacer available to raise the rear sight?

I used cci blazer bulk,I didn't keep track but I would say I shot over 100 rounds without any issues. Standing with an elbow on the bench seemed to be the most comfortable position for me, a bipod would be nice. I started off with a 10"? target and then the guy next to me gave me his paper with 2 untouched 6" targets that I used for my last 40 shots.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/yamahablue/photo-34.jpg

ANG Tactical
05-27-2012, 5:19 PM
It is common on SIG rifles. Believe it or not, my 556 is worse but this fixes it and makes it tight 110%.

My 556 had the forearm wobble too. I talked to Colorado Guns and they said that the Sig 550 gas block has a ceramic coating, I forget what it has normally. I replaced mine with the 550 gas block and it tightened that puppy right up.

This thread is making me depressed. I really wish I would have also purchased a 522 when I had the chance.

nitroxdiver
05-28-2012, 8:25 AM
Samson rail all the way. The 522 fake gas block is indexed to the bbl with a small hex head screw. Many I've seen are not truly squared up when tightened, which means some odd windage adjustments to zero. With a Samson rail, you can remove the stock sig sights and mount any set you want on the rail. I went with Hk 416 diopter sights on mine. Perfection.
The Samson rail has two small adjustment screws that index the barrel nut and allow you to get the rail perfectly square with the upper reciever. It's available from brownells.

SoCal Gunner
05-28-2012, 12:05 PM
I have one and really like it. Mine is a first generation so it did not come with sights. Also mine had the old recoil spring rod and had to be upgraded by SIG to the new type. They sent me one of these for free and it took all of 5 minutes to install. I have a Leapers 4x RGB tactical scope on mine and it is a tack driver. Mine has NEVER failed on any ammo whatsoever.

Can you tell me more about the "old recoil spring rod" upgrade? Is there a serial number range? I too have one that didn't come with sights, but I don't know if that's all it takes to be classified as "old".

What is the issue with the recoil spring rod?

loosewreck
05-28-2012, 1:45 PM
Now I wanna know if I have the "canted gas block" lol, is that something thats easy to see or does it really show at the range when trying to 0 the sights?

If you're using sights mounted in the GB dovetail, it will be pretty obvious to the eye when try to zero your sights. If yours is canted Sig will fix it for free.

Can you tell me more about the "old recoil spring rod" upgrade? Is there a serial number range? I too have one that didn't come with sights, but I don't know if that's all it takes to be classified as "old".

What is the issue with the recoil spring rod?

In the original bolt design the rods used an e-clip to keep everything captive. The clips being so small, sometimes had a tendency to fail. If you're still not sure call Sig's CS, if you have one of the older ones they'll send you the redesigned one free of charge.

Sig CS (http://www.sigsauer.com/CustomerService/)

02Caltaco
05-29-2012, 10:14 PM
If you're using sights mounted in the GB dovetail, it will be pretty obvious to the eye when try to zero your sights. If yours is canted Sig will fix it for free.


Im using the Sig front sight that mounts to the dovetail on the gb. I guess the fact that I've had to adjust the rear sight so far to the right tells me that the gb is off unless something else could cause this?

loosewreck
05-29-2012, 11:51 PM
If you have to push a sight to its full adjustment, something is usually wrong. However, if the gun is still shooting correctly, the situation may be acceptable to some. LOL, just ask some of the AK guys :D

The GB on the 522 I had was pretty badly canted, I had to drift the rear all the way to one side and the front all the way to the other, luckily the damn thing was zeroed in that setting.

After a while I just couldn't live with it co-witnessing in the lower left 1/3 of my RDS as well as just looking all cock-eyed, so I called Sig and they took care of it without any hassel to me (well maybe except finding a big enough box). They did a fantastic job of re-timing the barrel, I should have sent it out sooner. I even asked if I could purchase a couple of manuals for 2 Sigs I purchased used and they just sent them for free. Their CS is still pretty top notch, don't hesitate to call them if you have a problem.

02Caltaco
05-30-2012, 10:21 PM
I'm going to try to make it to the range this weekend, mess with the sights and then decide if I want to send it to Sig.