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AragornElessar86
04-16-2012, 12:50 PM
I'm going to be starting to buy a series of bolt action rifles in various calibers for long-range shooting. I'm specifically interested in finding a line of bolt-actions that is essentially the same gun across calibers, including .22LR. The Ruger M77 is currently at the top of my list for that reason, but I've heard that Savage's guns are more accurate. I'm pretty new to bolt guns at this level. I've shot them since I was a kid, but never paid all that much attention to which one I was shooting or what specific features it had. So what lines should I check out and why do you like them?

Oh, almost forgot my #1 requirement: MUST BE 100% MADE IN THE U.S.A.

Short Action Precision
04-16-2012, 1:38 PM
Remington 700's or Savages can all be had with the same type of stocks in multiple calibers. The Savage mark 2 in 22lr might be a hair different but not a lot. The Remington 700 40x in 22lr is identical to its bigger brothers. Be prepared to pay a lot for the Remington though.

GettoPhilosopher
04-16-2012, 2:03 PM
Weren't you just telling me you weren't buying any new guns this year? ;)

Might help if you clarify what calibers. .22lr is for practice and Appleseed, I assume. I'm also assuming .308. What else?

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AragornElessar86
04-16-2012, 2:35 PM
Right now I'm looking at what I consider the "big three": .223, .308, .30-06. And then .22LR as I said. Not really sure why I care so much that the guns all be "the same", but I do for some reason.

Budd
04-16-2012, 2:47 PM
Not enough of a difference between .308 and .30-06 to justify a complete different rifle in my opinion. Just stick to .308, .223. 22.

ExtremeX
04-16-2012, 3:02 PM
Not enough of a difference between .308 and .30-06 to justify a complete different rifle in my opinion. Just stick to .308, .223. 22.

+1

I would pass on the .30-06 personally. Replace that with a .300 Win Mag, 7mm, or .338 Lapua

.223 and .308 would be a wise choice.

I assume to get the same fit and feel you would be sourcing optics from the same vendor in different magnifications?

Sounds like an expensive venture =)

russ69
04-16-2012, 3:52 PM
I have a Ruger 77/22 and a matching Mark II in .223. It was a good idea at the time but it really serves no purpose.
For long range shooting, always start with a 308 then learn how to shoot it. Putting together a good rifle/scope and learning how to use it should take you a couple of years and that should pretty much bust the bank for a little while. Plus learning how to handload and the reloading equipment that goes with it is going to take some time.
The 22LR is a totally different deal, you'll want to buy the best 22LR you can afford. For me that means an Anschutz, Fienwerkbau or Walther, YMMV. A good American 22LR is a custom shop Remington or an older Winchester model 52 but they are not as good as the German guns, so you'll have to decide if you want the best or you want an American gun.

AragornElessar86
04-16-2012, 8:15 PM
Russ, what's the accuracy look like on that Mark II?

Mr. Burns
04-16-2012, 8:38 PM
Just buy 1 optic and switch it between calibers. For .308 .300 win mag and .338 you could just get the Remington MSR but I don't think that is as wide a caliber category as you would like.

freonr22
04-16-2012, 8:41 PM
Why dump the 30-06 in favor of the .308?

drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
04-16-2012, 8:57 PM
Why dump the 30-06 in favor of the .308?

Ballistically, they are almost identical. The 308 action is shorter and therefore stiffer. The 30-06 has greater powder capacity but IMNSHO that is an insignificant difference. Match brass for the 308 I think, might also be easier to find.

BTW, I shoot a 30-06 so I'm not bashing it. These days, the 308 has a lot of advantages the 30-06 used to have.

Just my opinion of course.

drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
04-16-2012, 9:00 PM
Just buy 1 optic and switch it between calibers. For .308 .300 win mag and .338 you could just get the Remington MSR but I don't think that is as wide a caliber category as you would like.

if you want to burn a lot of ammo re-sighting in, do this!

drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
04-16-2012, 9:10 PM
I'm going to be starting to buy a series of bolt action rifles in various calibers for long-range shooting. I'm specifically interested in finding a line of bolt-actions that is essentially the same gun across calibers, including .22LR. The Ruger M77 is currently at the top of my list for that reason, but I've heard that Savage's guns are more accurate. I'm pretty new to bolt guns at this level. I've shot them since I was a kid, but never paid all that much attention to which one I was shooting or what specific features it had. So what lines should I check out and why do you like them?

Oh, almost forgot my #1 requirement: MUST BE 100% MADE IN THE U.S.A.

Long range shooting is typically slow paced shooting. Have you considered a single shot system like the T/C Encore? Available in every caliber mentioned in this thread, they are extremely accurate and American Made. Sounds like they would meet all of your criteria except the bolt part. Not to mention, less expensive. I believe they also have a switch barrel bolt action now, but I'm not familiar with it beyond the advertisements I've seen.

Mr. Burns
04-16-2012, 9:49 PM
if you want to burn a lot of ammo re-sighting in, do this!


ummmm...... or just keep a range book :facepalm:

drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
04-16-2012, 10:03 PM
ummmm...... or just keep a range book :facepalm:

ummmmm...... point taken.

AragornElessar86
04-16-2012, 10:31 PM
Mr. Burns, I've definitely been considering the single optic w/ range book option, at least as I'm getting started.

Drdarrin, I'll look into that more, seems like an interesting system.

Thanks for all the input guys, gets me pointed in a more definite direction for sure.

ExtremeX
04-16-2012, 10:37 PM
If you can find an optic would be happy with for all rifles then a range book would be a wise choice. I would get at least get 1 really nice scope to you get something that tracks well so you get predictable results.

Tracer666
04-17-2012, 3:28 AM
Not enough of a difference between .308 and .30-06 to justify a complete different rifle in my opinion. Just stick to .308, .223. 22.

M1A vs M1 Garand, sometimes its just the rifle in basin that decides the caliber... Dont know if I made sense but I love the mini-14 in .223 but dont like the mini-30 in 7.62x39... Guess what Im tryin to say is sometimes the rifle helps make the round rather than lets say, "I want a .308 in this rifle" but down the road you think dam I should of got this set up in .223 rather than .308,, I thnk im just rambling.... Sorry guys...:gene:

AragornElessar86
04-17-2012, 8:18 AM
Tracer, that totally makes sense and it's something I hadn't thought of.

russ69
04-17-2012, 9:41 AM
Russ, what's the accuracy look like on that Mark II?

I have an older "boat paddle" stainless steel with synthetic stock. The stock trigger was terrible, around 11 pounds pull. I had the gunsmith set it to 3 pounds. After that, it worked pretty good. With handloads, it is a very good one, with half inch 5 shot groups.