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mikehaas
04-24-2007, 10:41 AM
NRA Members' Councils of California
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Updated Bill Schedules, 4/24/2007
11:40 AM, 04/24/2007

Some of the previous bill schedule information published at...
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml
...has been updated or corrected as follows:

AB334: Previously, we reported that AB 334 would next appear before the Assembly, date unknown. The state schedule now reflects that AB 334 will appear before the Assembly Appropriations Committee on Wednesday, April 25, 2007. Please contact the committee members and urge a NO vote on AB 362. More information is available at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab334

AB362: Previously, we reported that AB 362 would appear before the Assembly Appropiations Committee on Tuesday, April 24, 2007, but the hearing is actually scheduled for Wednesday, April 25, 2007. Please continue to contact the committee members and urge a NO vote on AB 362. More information is available at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab362

AB821: AB 821 will appear before the Assembly Appropriations Committee on Wednesday, April 25, 2007. Please contact the committee members and urge a NO vote against AB 821. More information is available at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab821

ONE-CLICK service has been established for these issues at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml#oneclick

Mike

JGarrison
04-24-2007, 11:01 AM
Mike, how does AB 1218 help us? I can't figure it out. The site says it would allow dealers to sell unsafe handguns, but I don't see how it says that in the bill.

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/asm/ab_1201-1250/ab_1218_bill_20070223_introduced.html

hoffmang
04-24-2007, 11:16 AM
JG,

Today an FFL can not purchase an unsafe handgun from a CA citizen to sell in California. AB 1218 would allow a CA FFL to purchase a used handgun - regardless of its listing on the "unsafe" handgun list and resell it in CA.

I don't have time right now to go re-read it, but that's my memory and the explanation I've heard from the NRA.

Edit: Here is the current text as ammended: http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_1201-1250/ab_1218_bill_20070410_amended_asm_v98.html

The original text you linked to was a placeholder.

-Gene

JGarrison
04-24-2007, 11:31 AM
JG,

Today an FFL can not purchase an unsafe handgun from a CA citizen to sell in California. AB 1218 would allow a CA FFL to purchase a used handgun - regardless of its listing on the "unsafe" handgun list and resell it in CA.

I don't have time right now to go re-read it, but that's my memory and the explanation I've heard from the NRA.

Edit: Here is the current text as ammended: http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_1201-1250/ab_1218_bill_20070410_amended_asm_v98.html

The original text you linked to was a placeholder.

-Gene

Ahh, got it. Thanks, I suck at bill reading, lol. So it still just applies to CA, a dealer can't get a gun that is not on the list from out of state and sell it, correct? What the heck is the letter from DOJ they are talking about though? Anyone care to try and explain it? I'm lost...

(j) The sale, loan, or transfer of a pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed upon the person to a dealer if all
of the following conditions are met:
(1) The person selling, loaning, or transferring that firearm is
not a person who is licensed pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with
Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the
regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(2) The pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person was manufactured prior to January 1, 1995.

(3) The make or model of the pistol, revolver, or other firearm
capable of being concealed upon the person was never submitted for
testing pursuant to this chapter.
(4) The manufacturer of the firearm discontinued manufacture of
that make or model of firearm prior to January 1, 1995.
(5) The pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person was lawfully possessed by a California
resident prior to January 1, 1995.
(k) The sale, loan, or transfer of a pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed upon the person by a dealer who
received that firearm pursuant to subdivision (j), if that firearm
has with it a notification in a form prescribed by the Department of
Justice stating "This firearm has not qualified for inclusion on the
roster of pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being
concealed upon the person that may be sold in this state compiled by
the Department of Justice pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision
(b) of Section 12125 of the Penal Code," because it was not submitted
for testing pursuant to this chapter and is therefore not on the
roster set forth in Section 12131.

mikehaas
04-24-2007, 4:07 PM
Thanks to hoffmang and other Legal Beagles here for helping to shine light on such questions. These days, I simply don't have the time to field many questions on to NRA. Often, one or more of the really smart folks here "figure it out" anyway.

I've often seen the problem being leginfo.ca.gov - the CA state website is frequently late-to-update or simply wrong. And practices like placeholder bills - targets for later "gut & amends" - also cause this kind of confusion. Asking NRA about such questions is a waste of their valuable time. The unreliability of the CA state website is why this notice exists on most of OUR pages:

NOTE: Legislative information will normally be posted here before appearing on the California state website. Important related information will only appear here. When the sources disagree, this page should be considered the more current and reliable of the two.

My advice is believe http://calnra.com/legs.shtml. It's usually right because it comes double-checked, direct from our lobbyist or our attorneys, through yours truly. When corrections are necessary, I make them ASAP (as above). There's no more direct link between what happens in Sacramento and the internet than what we provide. Hot info has been know to appear there within the hour of happening at the capitol.

And if calgunners are also present, well, it doesn't get any better than that. :-)

Mike

chris
04-24-2007, 4:49 PM
e-mails sent mike.

DrjonesUSA
04-24-2007, 9:01 PM
Mike:

Many thanks again for all this work!

One-click emails have been sent for all three AB's!!!