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whiskeyhotel
04-14-2012, 6:11 PM
Ever since I was a kid in the 60s I've always dreamed of owning a lever action rifle. And not a Daisy Red Rider BB gun either.

Well, after finding out the bad news about Remlin/Marlington rifles, and discovering an unbelievable shortage of Rossi lever guns at local stores, I finally went online to gunbroker.com and found this...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WPH_ekpX2RA/T4oXmzlBSpI/AAAAAAAAGxo/-Ask5dNSQm4/s800/DSC_9156.jpg

A NIB, old stock Winchester 1892 in 44 Mag. The SRN indicates a 1996 manufacture date. It was made by Miroku in Japan and what I've read about the Japanese Winchester's excellent fit and finish is absolutely true. An FFL in WA has been sitting on this for years after closing his gun store and focusing on doing transfers only.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IazJN4HNNrM/T4oXmY5Y5eI/AAAAAAAAGxg/VpMQg7hvLSQ/s800/DSC_9149.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UOuRB6jpX88/T4oXi3F1M4I/AAAAAAAAGww/qKAic8Jdf-A/s800/DSC_9118.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EgTUOBL1Nl4/T4oXlPeSPMI/AAAAAAAAGxQ/fcSuUymV4Ks/s800/DSC_9139.jpg

I've been reloading some 44 mag target loads and hope to get out to Chabot tomorrow to give it its inaugural firing. :)

Dummy rounds feed and eject perfectly, dropping about 3' behind my right shoulder. Hopefully that will make brass pick up a lot easier.

Finally, a pic of my multi-generation defense team:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SPLYiuTKL7Y/T4oXtLu3QyI/AAAAAAAAGyA/PNVfanbZDVA/s800/DSC_9151.jpg

hemiguy55
04-14-2012, 6:18 PM
nice purchase! super clean!

zfields
04-14-2012, 6:24 PM
Congrats, I just recently took the lever gun leap also. Already want another one.

SunriseF150
04-14-2012, 6:36 PM
Nice. I've got a 44mag lever on my want list.

223556
04-14-2012, 6:39 PM
Beautiful looking lever action you got there!
Maybe there is room in my safe for one ....

Bigtwin
04-14-2012, 7:11 PM
Very nice! i have been wanting a lever rifle for some time but just have not found the one I wanted yet!

Plus a few other gun projects have taken center stage lately for me.:(

NYY
04-14-2012, 7:19 PM
nice man! Yeah i have a model 94 .30-30 and I love it!

Capybara
04-14-2012, 7:37 PM
She is a beauty, with a Japanese accent. Congrats!

VegasND
04-14-2012, 8:14 PM
Very nice, beautiful. I really love the 1892 -- great rifle.

My .44 lever gun isn't nearly so great. It's a Rossi.

zfields
04-14-2012, 8:29 PM
Very nice, beautiful. I really love the 1892 -- great rifle.

My .44 lever gun isn't nearly so great. It's a Rossi.

I'm considering one of the Rossi 44 or 357's. I just wish they used nicer wood on them.

winnre
04-14-2012, 8:43 PM
Now I want one.

r8dr rider
04-14-2012, 9:14 PM
Nice...what do u mean by bad news on the Remington/Marlin?

whiskeyhotel
04-14-2012, 9:22 PM
Thanks, guys.

Very nice, beautiful. I really love the 1892 -- great rifle.

My .44 lever gun isn't nearly so great. It's a Rossi.
I was looking high and low for a Rossi, but none of my local stores could find a 44 mag one at any of their suppliers. Even the big online stores like Buds didn't have any. There were a few Henry's but I'm not too keen on the looks of those...a little too chunky for my taste. lol

I saw this Winchester and took a day to convince myself that it was worth the extra $100-150 over a used Marlin 94 in 44 mag. :)

whiskeyhotel
04-14-2012, 9:30 PM
Nice...what do u mean by bad news on the Remington/Marlin?
Marlin was bought out by Remington's parent company in 2009 or thereabouts and the Marlin workers were let go. Remington started to build the leverguns with their employees but there is a mountain of complaints for poor workmanship and quality on these "Remlin/Marlington" made rifles. It's been so bad that Remington has suspended production of these rifles in 2012 while they get their act together. Check out marlinowners.com and feel their pain. haha

I actually got to play with a stainless Marlin 94 at my LGS, and the fit between the stock and tang was +- 1/16" and the action felt like a rusty pair of scissors. Not a pretty sight.

zfields
04-14-2012, 9:34 PM
Marlin was bought out by Remington's parent company in 2009 or thereabouts and the Marlin workers were let go. Remington started to build the leverguns with their employees but there is a mountain of complaints for poor workmanship and quality on these "Remlin/Marlington" made rifles. It's been so bad that Remington has suspended production of these rifles in 2012 while they get their act together. Check out marlinowners.com and feel their pain. haha

I actually got to play with a stainless Marlin 94 at my LGS, and the fit between the stock and tang was +- 1/16" and the action felt like a rusty pair of scissors. Not a pretty sight.

I got lucky with mine. The Remlins' are hit or miss for sure.

Ubermcoupe
04-14-2012, 9:40 PM
Now I want one.

LOL - Ainít that the truth.

Nice looking Lever Gun OP!

winnre
04-14-2012, 9:55 PM
Remember the movie Winchester '73, where they had the prize gun that had a plate on it as being one in a thousand because the parts fit so well? Do they still do that?

G-Man WC
04-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Very nice looking lever ya got there son.
-g

coy80176
04-14-2012, 10:14 PM
Every arsenal should include a lever gun...Lucas McCain would approve;)

whiskeyhotel
04-14-2012, 10:21 PM
I'm considering one of the Rossi 44 or 357's. I just wish they used nicer wood on them.

Funny thing about the stock. When I brought the gun home I showed it to my 14 yo son. I let him hold it and the first thing he said was that the stock felt like plastic. He's never seen a nicely finished wood stock so had no idea that wood could be so smooth. haha.

No real surprise since the only other rifles I own are an M&P 15-22 and M&P 15 Sport. Even my handguns all have plastic/rubber grips. :)

ACRfan
04-14-2012, 10:41 PM
OP, I never really wanted a lever, now that I see that beautiful Winchester of yours I think I might need one!

zfields
04-14-2012, 10:47 PM
Funny thing about the stock. When I brought the gun home I showed it to my 14 yo son. I let him hold it and the first thing he said was that the stock felt like plastic. He's never seen a nicely finished wood stock so had no idea that would could be so smooth. haha.

No real surprise since the only other rifles I own are an M&P 15-22 and M&P 15 Sport. Even my handguns all have plastic/rubber grips. :)

Hah, I wont post my GBL, that sucker has nice wood on it. But yes, that smooth , high build poly on the wood gives it a plastic feel.

POLICESTATE
04-14-2012, 10:51 PM
That's funny, a rifle made in a country where people can't own one. Nice rifle though! Much nicer than the Marlin I used to have. How much did it cost?

ZX-10R
04-14-2012, 11:10 PM
Very nice. I would love to get a lever action.

whiskeyhotel
04-14-2012, 11:33 PM
That's funny, a rifle made in a country where people can't own one. Nice rifle though! Much nicer than the Marlin I used to have. How much did it cost?

Apparently it's the same factory that has been building Browning rifles, including their B92, for decades. They definitely know what they're doing...well, at least back in '96 they did. :p

The seller had it listed as a Buy-It-Now for $795, so I did what was commanded of me. haha

Old West, in El Cerrito, had a new 92 for $1200, and the next closest one on gunbroker was $100 more. So I knew it was a deal. Of course once I added on shipping transfer fees, DROS and tax I was up to just over a grand. Irvington isn't the cheapest place to transfer to, but they're a five minute drive for me so they make up for it in convenience.

451040
04-14-2012, 11:49 PM
Nice. Congrats!

johnthomas
04-15-2012, 12:12 AM
A few months ago, my son's father-in-law gave him a Marlin 3030. About ten years old, still in the box, never fired. Took it out last month, what a babe to shoot.

fighterpilot562
04-15-2012, 1:09 AM
Nice i am jealous! i also wanted wanted a level action rifle

whiskeyhotel
04-15-2012, 8:43 AM
A few months ago, my son's father-in-law gave him a Marlin 3030. About ten years old, still in the box, never fired. Took it out last month, what a babe to shoot.

I can see myself passing this gun down to my son, but no chance in H*** it'll be in unfired condition when that time comes. haha

MrExel17
04-15-2012, 8:48 AM
OP, congrats! Thats pretty awesome..

tujungatoes
04-15-2012, 8:53 AM
Congrats on a nice rifle. I just got my first lever gun a couple months ago. Winchester 94 in .45 colt.

whiskeyhotel
04-15-2012, 7:46 PM
Congrats on a nice rifle. I just got my first lever gun a couple months ago. Winchester 94 in .45 colt.

A couple of weeks before I found my Winchester I was Target Masters in Milpitas and they had a Rossi 92 large loop in 45 Colt. I passed it by since I don't reload 45 LC. But after seeing how few Rossis there were on the market I called them back the next day to check the price only to be told that it had been sold that morning. :facepalm:

whiskeyhotel
04-15-2012, 7:51 PM
I took the rifle out to Chabot this morning and it fed and fired flawlessly. Everything from handload 180g LRNFP, to 240g LSWC, to factory 240 JHP. Only the JHPs stung when fired. haha

Overall, the rifle is awesome. My eyesight with buckhorn rear sights, not so much. I will say that at 100 yards I did keep all my shots on paper, but only 1 shot in three hit the 6" bullseye. Still it was a lot of fun.

I need to spend more time on the 20yd line to get better at the open sights.

ott1
04-15-2012, 8:27 PM
Henry rifles are still made in the good ol' US of A.

zfields
04-15-2012, 8:38 PM
Henry rifles are still made in the good ol' US of A.

Same with Marlin

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arsilva32
04-15-2012, 9:05 PM
very nice looking lever gun friend.

jyo
04-15-2012, 9:07 PM
The Japanese Browning and Winchester lever guns are actully much nicer made than the USA guns! Yeah, the truth hurts---that's a super nice rifle you got there!

StratORcaster
04-15-2012, 9:08 PM
Nice! My father gave me his Model 94 30-30 last yr! Very cool indeed! Fun to shoot!!

whiskeyhotel
04-16-2012, 4:06 PM
A buddy of mine is trying to convince me to install a Marble tang peep sight. But I'm not too keen on drilling and tapping a hole in the tang of my brand new rifle...at least not just yet. haha

The one accessory I will be getting is a Kirkpatick Leather butt cover (http://www.kirkpatrickleather.com/accessories/holster/rifle-butt-cover-52). The curved steel butt plate is very slick and hard to get a good mount with.

SR-71 BLACKBIRD
04-16-2012, 4:14 PM
Very nice. A lever action is also on my bucket list.

tacticalcity
04-16-2012, 4:17 PM
Nice!

MARLANDO
04-17-2012, 8:13 AM
Nice! My father gave me his Model 94 30-30 last yr! Very cool indeed! Fun to shoot!!

What else did he give you ? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/smilies/hide.gif

pricedo
05-22-2012, 4:57 PM
I own Amadeo Rossi M92s (no bolt safety) in .357 Mag, .44 Mag & .454 Casull cause I can't afford the outrageously priced Miroku Winchester leverguns. These Rossi guns are about 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the new Miroku built Winchester leverguns and are alot closer to the original JMB design and don't have the tang safeties and rebounding hammers of the new Miroku made guns.
The new Japchesters may legally have the Winchester name but the Rossis are righteous 92s with none of the unnecessary lawyer safety encumbrances.
I've fired Miroku Japchesters at the range that my friends own and they fired my Rossis and we all thought the Rossis were more accurate.
The Brazilian jungle mystery wood stocks on my Rossis don't look half bad either.
There's no way I'm paying $1000-$1500 for a Japchester just cause it has a walnut stock and says Winchester on the barrel.
The new Miroku made Winchester model 71s in .348 Win and the new 86s are priced into the stratosphere.
If I'm going to pay that kind of money I'll buy a Turnbull which doesn't have all the outrageous unnecessary safety infrastructure and are much prettier than the Miroku guns and are MADE IN THE USA if that still means anything to anybody any more........it sure as heck does to me.

tango5
05-22-2012, 5:35 PM
She sure is pretty! I have a Winchester model 1894, serial number dates its manufacture date to 1899. Im the 3rd generation to own it, and will go to my boys when my day comes.

760knox
05-22-2012, 5:40 PM
Very nice! How much did that run you? I would think $$$ wouldn't have mattered because that's something your <3 has been set on. Congrats on the sweet lever gun :cowboy:

MrPlink
05-22-2012, 5:45 PM
Very nice!

I actually jusy tried one of those out about a week ago. Lots of fun!

whiskeyhotel
05-22-2012, 5:45 PM
Very nice! How much did that run you? I would think $$$ wouldn't have mattered because that's something your <3 has been set on. Congrats on the sweet lever gun :cowboy:

$795 was the seller's buy-it-now price on gunbroker. It was a good deal up until I paid the transfer fee, DROS and CA sales tax on it.

760knox
05-22-2012, 5:49 PM
I would agree so until all of those extra fees :mad: Get us a range report and some pics of it in action!!!

whiskeyhotel
05-22-2012, 6:10 PM
I would agree so until all of those extra fees :mad: Get us a range report and some pics of it in action!!!

Yeah, I paid a $75 transfer fee at Irvington Arms, but if you figure in the cost of gas for two round trips to a cheaper, out of area LGS it's almost a wash.

As for a range report, it has fed and fired everything I put in it. From factory Remington JHPs to 20 year old 240g LSWC reloads I had done for my S&W M29.

After shooting some hotter loads I opted to install a Kirkpatrick leather butt cover, which made the rifle easier to keep on my shoulder (that steel butt plate is too slippery). But the finishing touch was adding a strip or gel shoe insole inside the cover for a ghetto recoil pad. Works like a charm. haha

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7M3qgf9rdeU/T5maixEBCZI/AAAAAAAAG5k/Qtt4pBvwtqI/w400-h266-n-k/DSC_9159-2.jpg

It doesn't like the mild target loads I shoot out of my M29, but 11 gr of Unique (which chrono'd at 1600fps) did a lot better. My biggest issue is just maintaining a clear sight picture with the semi buckhorn sights.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sOrvhImKLMI/T5tAXxv8q1I/AAAAAAAAG6s/mIr0Sxel7jc/w383-h286-n-k/IMG_0419.JPG

My buddy keeps telling me to install a Marble tang sight, but I've got other things to spend money on (AR stuff, haha) first, and I wasn't too keen on drilling into my brand new rifle anyway. :D

Meety Peety
05-22-2012, 6:15 PM
Very nice rifle! Love the wood on that thing. I've been itching for a levergun a lot lately, been trying to buy back my old one from the guy I sold it to, no luck just yet ;)

whiskeyhotel
05-22-2012, 6:22 PM
Very nice rifle! Love the wood on that thing. I've been itching for a levergun a lot lately, been trying to buy back my old one from the guy I sold it to, no luck just yet ;)

The wood is mid-90s polyurethane finished walnut. Nice for what it is, but nothing like the old maple stock of my uncle's 70s vintage 240 Weatherby. And it's definitely leaps and bounds above the construction grade wood that the recent "Remlin" leverguns have sported.

760knox
05-22-2012, 7:44 PM
Yeah, I paid a $75 transfer fee at Irvington Arms, but if you figure in the cost of gas for two round trips to a cheaper, out of area LGS it's almost a wash.

As for a range report, it has fed and fired everything I put in it. From factory Remington JHPs to 20 year old 240g LSWC reloads I had done for my S&W M29.

After shooting some hotter loads I opted to install a Kirkpatrick leather butt cover, which made the rifle easier to keep on my shoulder (that steel butt plate is too slippery). But the finishing touch was adding a strip or gel shoe insole inside the cover for a ghetto recoil pad. Works like a charm. haha

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7M3qgf9rdeU/T5maixEBCZI/AAAAAAAAG5k/Qtt4pBvwtqI/w400-h266-n-k/DSC_9159-2.jpg

It doesn't like the mild target loads I shoot out of my M29, but 11 gr of Unique (which chrono'd at 1600fps) did a lot better. My biggest issue is just maintaining a clear sight picture with the semi buckhorn sights.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sOrvhImKLMI/T5tAXxv8q1I/AAAAAAAAG6s/mIr0Sxel7jc/w383-h286-n-k/IMG_0419.JPG

My buddy keeps telling me to install a Marble tang sight, but I've got other things to spend money on (AR stuff, haha) first, and I wasn't too keen on drilling into my brand new rifle anyway. :D

Cool deal! yeah sometimes you gotta just put the recoil pad on...and yeah I would hold off on drilling into a new rifle.