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Squid
04-12-2012, 11:35 AM
otherwise almost completely AR action (except for trigger linkage, and a hump in stock to accommodate the recoil tube.

Anyone want to get some tracing paper and overlay a typical Monte Carlo rifle and AR to see how much hump would happen and stretch out a trigger linkage (I don't know exactly how a AR trigger works).

MrPlink
04-12-2012, 11:53 AM
Its been done, dont think it made it to market though. Cant recall the name the company. Black something.. I think.

Hammerhead is a better solution IMO

hammerhead_77
04-12-2012, 11:59 AM
So, this has been around before. Check out http://californiarifles.com for an example. Other people have taken Remington 1100 shotgun stocks and modified them to fit the AR platform. The problem is you need to move the trigger assembly back or you can't reach it. That means modifying the lower...and now you really don't have an AR, since you can't change it back.

Another approach would be a stock kit that includes a new trigger and encloses the original trigger...a linkage like you see on the spade grips comes to mind.

The AR platform is just not well adapted to this approach...which is why we have bullet buttons. If you just gotta have full capacity mags, featureless with a monsterman grip or just go get a SU-16 for plinking.

javalos
04-12-2012, 12:17 PM
We need to get past the "looks" as anti-gun liberals are hung up on and push the truth about the AR-15 that it is a sporterized rifle now, no longer viewed as an "assault weapon" by many. Remington for instance produces the R-15 for the sporting field.

Harrison_Bergeron
04-12-2012, 12:22 PM
Blackstar BSR-15

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/6ppc/BlackStar/blackstar15_full_2.jpg

unusedusername
04-12-2012, 12:32 PM
Where is the buffer tube in that stock :confused: ?

chead
04-12-2012, 12:50 PM
Why not just get a Kel-Tec at that point?

kimo308
04-12-2012, 12:51 PM
That's just brutally wrong. It looks like a dog missing it's hind legs.

Droppin Deuces
04-12-2012, 12:55 PM
Blackstar BSR-15

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/6ppc/BlackStar/blackstar15_full_2.jpg

Whoa..Ew, WT..F? What is that?

ptgarcia
04-12-2012, 12:56 PM
Blackstar BSR-15

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/6ppc/BlackStar/blackstar15_full_2.jpg


I think this is pretty cool. What makes this better than the Kel-Tec is it still accepts AR uppers.

Arnelcheeze
04-12-2012, 2:57 PM
http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/IWDAR15_files/shapeimage_7.png
how about this?
http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/IWDAR15.html

Merc1138
04-12-2012, 3:05 PM
The Blackstar never made it past the design stages for obvious reasons. Would have been cool if it could have been made to work though.

Freagan
04-12-2012, 3:13 PM
Blackstar BSR-15

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/6ppc/BlackStar/blackstar15_full_2.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VxsfidX6oxQ/TkFWrMVRUdI/AAAAAAAACWA/-hAZIlEbl64/s1600/YAO-MING-SCARED-HECK-NO-FACE-AFRAID.jpg

tygerpaw
04-12-2012, 5:44 PM
I think the Bullet Button and Monster Man / Fin grips killed this project. Kind of like the FAB-10.

Merc1138
04-12-2012, 5:45 PM
I think the Bullet Button and Monster Man / Fin grips killed this project. Kind of like the FAB-10.

Yeah, that too. $45 worth of parts vs. however much the blackstar lower would have cost. Seems like a similar reason the U-15 was discontinued(even though I still want one).

TNP'R
04-12-2012, 5:51 PM
Blackstar BSR-15

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/6ppc/BlackStar/blackstar15_full_2.jpg

I'd take this over what the CA laws would make me do to an AR. Kinda like a saiga only of the ar-15 variety.

Full Clip
04-12-2012, 6:02 PM
I would have bought a couple Blackstars if they had done a production run, though that trigger guard looks like shizz. I went featureless with MMs instead.

CSACANNONEER
04-12-2012, 6:06 PM
I think the Bullet Button and Monster Man / Fin grips killed this project. Kind of like the FAB-10.

What killed the FAB10 was the sunsetting of the federal AWB in 2004. Before that, they were being marketed to the entire country.

Cucv
04-12-2012, 6:13 PM
I'd take this over what the CA laws would make me do to an AR. Kinda like a saiga only of the ar-15 variety.


Ill take one!

Obviously a Plant
04-12-2012, 10:13 PM
Para made an AR upper called the TTR with a recoil spring above the action- same setup as a FAL with a folding stock. That would let you put ant stock you want on, and leave you to figure-out a trigger linkage.
I think CDNN still has some complete rifles, but for more money than I have to spend on a "project".
http://site.cdnninvestments.com/CDNN2012-2/index.html
page 41

strongpoint
04-12-2012, 11:22 PM
Para made an AR upper called the TTR with a recoil spring above the action- same setup as a FAL with a folding stock. That would let you put ant stock you want on, and leave you to figure-out a trigger linkage.

rock river's current line of piston-driven AR carbines and pistols uses a similar system, but i don't think the company sells the uppers separately.