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Quickdraw Mcgraw
04-09-2012, 11:53 AM
So I started a thread about kelltech SU 16 an got BASHED by the almighty calguns crew...saying stuff like "YEAH GUNS BLOW UP" and others saying "AR 15's blow up" well were not looking for guns that shot squib rds were looking for guns that FLAT OUT DON'T WORK after firing normal pressure ammo.

SO COME ON GUYS POST YER PICS OF ALL GUNS THAT SELF DESTRUCT like the old MISSION IMPOSSIBLE messages!!

I'll start....BOOM!! No squid, factory ammo, firing pin breakage resulted in an out ofhttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i262/brendanm707/keltechblowup.png battery discharge. Heres yer pic Somthing is wrong...mabye super glue?

Freagan
04-09-2012, 12:02 PM
Never had (or even seen) a gun explode in real life, but I did find some pics online :D

http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/64139.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8006/18575023.jpg

http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/64140.jpg

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/blowup_images/kaboom1.jpg

http://www.thegunzone.com/m1akb/762d15.jpg

kris smith
04-09-2012, 12:03 PM
Is that an mr1

russ69
04-09-2012, 12:16 PM
Is that an mr1


What ever it was, it's junk now.

ACRfan
04-09-2012, 12:19 PM
WoW!!

Freagan
04-09-2012, 12:30 PM
http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/M-16boom2.jpg

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/blowup_images/kaboom2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/SVORay/Barrett2.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/wildcardjc/IMG_0049.jpg
Wow, it looks like this one seriously injured the shooter: "suffering deep lacerations in both hands and 4 broken bones in one. "

Somewhat graphic picture warning!! This was the after math left by the rifle in the last picture



http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/wildcardjc/IMG_0042.jpg

hefedehefe
04-09-2012, 12:35 PM
So far no AK's

ExtremeX
04-09-2012, 12:37 PM
So far no AK's

Ill get my buddy to post his.... His AK blew up at Angelas Range, took some picts too. Pretty lucky he wasn't injured.

Freagan
04-09-2012, 12:42 PM
So far no AK's

Here yo go!

o9oITR_KZok

Merc1138
04-09-2012, 12:47 PM
So far no AK's

3OXnX-MBXjQ
lfIOi6Z16zQ

TNP'R
04-09-2012, 12:47 PM
I hate this thread. Makes me paranoid.

mif_slim
04-09-2012, 12:51 PM
I hate this thread. Makes me paranoid.

Good, now send me your entire firearm collection so I can properly despose of it for you. :D I'll even pay shipping fee.

TNP'R
04-09-2012, 12:54 PM
Good, now send me your entire firearm collection so I can properly despose of it for you. :D I'll even pay shipping fee.

Lol no thanks.

tujungatoes
04-09-2012, 1:07 PM
So far no AK's

It happens. I've had two go in my hands. One a headspace issue on an AK pistol(not mine), and one an ammo issue in an M76(mine). The 7.62x39 wasn't scary. The 8mm letting go was freaky.

M76 case failed at the head.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/tujungatoes/2011-06-25_21-37-01_483.jpg

Blew the top cover out/off and sent it flying about 30ft. The bolt carrier came halfway out through the top rails.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/tujungatoes/2011-06-25_21-37-21_538.jpg

Peter.Steele
04-09-2012, 5:38 PM
So I started a thread about kelltech SU 16 an got BASHED by the almighty calguns crew...saying stuff like "YEAH GUNS BLOW UP" and others saying "AR 15's blow up" well were not looking for guns that shot squib rds were looking for guns that FLAT OUT DON'T WORK after firing normal pressure ammo.

SO COME ON GUYS POST YER PICS OF ALL GUNS THAT SELF DESTRUCT like the old MISSION IMPOSSIBLE messages!!

I'll start....BOOM!! No squid, factory ammo, firing pin breakage resulted in an out of battery discharge. Heres yer pic Somthing is wrong...mabye super glue?



Looks like they messed up the heat treating on the plastic. :rolleyes:

FX-05 Xiuhcoatl
04-09-2012, 5:46 PM
*tagg* :popcorn:

mif_slim
04-09-2012, 6:31 PM
I think I figured why the SU-16 blew up, because it was made in China by a knock-off brand, KellTech. LOL.

Freagan
04-09-2012, 6:48 PM
http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/destroyed-garand.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/cimg0234-tm-tfb.jpg

http://www.videogames.org/cobb50kaboom2.jpg

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_00463.jpg

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_00477.jpg

Freagan
04-09-2012, 7:03 PM
Ak74 barrel cracked on the first round
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i359/chubbs47/ak743.jpg

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i359/chubbs47/ak742.jpg

http://www.dsarms.com/images/Mvc-016s.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/kaveman9/BlownFAL1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/kaveman9/BlownFAL2.jpg

cannon
04-09-2012, 7:21 PM
Nooooooooo, not a Garand!

Freagan
04-09-2012, 7:30 PM
Nooooooooo, not a Garand!

http://www.firearmsforum.com/I11010.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/garang_kb2-tm-tfb.jpeg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss31/Bert2368/photo-74.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss31/Bert2368/photo-76.jpg

mn0KBzK2Kho

icenix
04-09-2012, 7:49 PM
This thread does make one paranoid, lol. Just how often do guns go boom, in a bad way, and is it usually due to bad or cheap ammo?

LovingTheYear1911
04-09-2012, 8:15 PM
Boy am I glad I shoot Tulammo (sarcasm).

Freagan
04-09-2012, 8:16 PM
http://home.earthlink.net/~armalite/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cetme-6-sm.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~armalite/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cetme-4-sm.jpg

http://www.goldismoney2.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7363&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1302737146

http://www.goldismoney2.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7359&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1302736751

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/018-tfb.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/img_0943-tm-tfb.jpg

ExtremeX
04-09-2012, 8:18 PM
Not cool, this thread is making me paranoid too. I think its about time I upgrade my eye protection to something a bit more beefy.

I just put a Saiga 7.62x39 in jail, not cool seeing one that blew up in this thread.

Ill have to wear this while firing my AK for the first time lol.

http://www.conney.com/wcsstore/Conney/images/fullsize/36344.gif

louscamaro91
04-09-2012, 8:23 PM
It happens. I've had two go in my hands. One a headspace issue on an AK pistol(not mine), and one an ammo issue in an M76(mine). The 7.62x39 wasn't scary. The 8mm letting go was freaky.

M76 case failed at the head.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/tujungatoes/2011-06-25_21-37-01_483.jpg

Blew the top cover out/off and sent it flying about 30ft. The bolt carrier came halfway out through the top rails.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/tujungatoes/2011-06-25_21-37-21_538.jpg

I remember when your M76 did that at the Fresno BP. Pretty scary.

Agent 0range
04-09-2012, 8:26 PM
Well, thank you all for ruining my love of cheap reloads!! Never again.

2nd Shot
04-09-2012, 8:29 PM
I think this thread goes to show that any gun or any make, no matter how cheap or expensive, wood, polymer, steel, or aluminum, in any caliber, will blow the F up in the wrong circumstances, without exception. Good reminder to be observant of everything going on...

Also lol:

Arab: "Allahu Akbar!" *fires AK full auto*
Allah: *sigh* "I'm so tired of this bull****" *blows up ak*

Freagan
04-09-2012, 8:37 PM
http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ar-15-kaboom.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/6920boltcarriersplitf-tfb.jpg

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/Wolverinefan44/157.jpg

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/Wolverinefan44/148.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/5-tm-tfb.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9985/dscn0097fp1.jpg

Javierv73
04-09-2012, 8:42 PM
Theres your problem.

Freagan
04-09-2012, 8:47 PM
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9932/dscn0100xw4.jpg

http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/mosin-nagant-cracked-receiver.jpg

http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/mosin-nagant-cracked-receiver-2.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7631/n70000110302658791357ir1.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/125/n70000110302658801609cj4.jpg

http://files.uzitalk.com/images/user_posts/45_banana1.jpg

mod1217
04-09-2012, 8:49 PM
I hate this thread. Makes me paranoid.

Me too makes me want to fieldstrip my rifle everytime it got FTF and FTE
:hide:

tujungatoes
04-09-2012, 8:53 PM
Man...all that Garand carnage is just heart breaking.

I remember when you M76 did that. Pretty scary.

Yeah that wasn't the best thing that ever happened to me. Although I'm happy to say that after some minor surgery the M76 is alive and kicking. The top cover still needs work though.

TNP'R
04-09-2012, 8:54 PM
Me too makes me want to fieldstrip my rifle everytime it got FTF and FTE
:hide:

I was thinkin the same thing lol.

ExtremeX
04-09-2012, 8:57 PM
One positive thing to take from this thread is about maintenance and observation.


When cleaning or maintaining your firearm is a golden time to check for funny business. Look for anything abnormal in terms of wear, cracks, potential issues.


All of the AR failures make me cringe, I wonder if that's from bad loads, bad parts, or from neglect/poor maintenance.

Freagan
04-09-2012, 8:59 PM
Even .22LR aren't exempt

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2010_07_28_190232-tfb.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2010_07_28_190312-tfb.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6PbD56mSkS8/SoAHjiHwFmI/AAAAAAAAA_U/U82PgHnVHuw/s200/ar7kaboom.jpg

CSACANNONEER
04-09-2012, 9:01 PM
So I started a thread about kelltech SU 16 an got BASHED by the almighty calguns crew...saying stuff like "YEAH GUNS BLOW UP" and others saying "AR 15's blow up" well were not looking for guns that shot squib rds were looking for guns that FLAT OUT DON'T WORK after firing normal pressure ammo.

SO COME ON GUYS POST YER PICS OF ALL GUNS THAT SELF DESTRUCT like the old MISSION IMPOSSIBLE messages!!

I'll start....BOOM!! No squid, factory ammo, firing pin breakage resulted in an out ofhttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i262/brendanm707/keltechblowup.png battery discharge. Heres yer pic Somthing is wrong...mabye super glue?

Again, when I was talking about a few ARs blowing up, I was refering to guns without squibs firing FACTORY Remington .223 that was produced without flash holes. Did you properly inspect the ammo that blew your Keltec up? Guess what, Keltecs, like every other halfway decent firearm, don't blow up with "normal pressure" ammo. I'm not a huge Keltec fan but, I think you really need to look at all the different types of guns in this thread and realize that none of these blew up due to their inferior quality. In each case, there was something else wrong.

tujungatoes
04-09-2012, 9:09 PM
A lot of the rifles in here look like victims of barrel obstructions. Check for squibs!

mod1217
04-09-2012, 9:09 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/wildcardjc/IMG_0049.jpg
Wow, it looks like this one seriously injured the shooter: "suffering deep lacerations in both hands and 4 broken bones in one. "

Somewhat graphic picture warning!! This was the after math left by the rifle in the last picture



http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/wildcardjc/IMG_0042.jpg

Just Imagine if this rifle happens to be a BullPup :eek:

TNP'R
04-09-2012, 9:15 PM
I guess i'll take my bore light with me next time I go just to make sure.

Freagan
04-09-2012, 9:19 PM
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k365/SiliconWolverine/kaboom/carbon15kb.jpg

http://paul.223.tripod.com/Firearms/Long_Arms/AR-15s/Hesse_Lower/Hesse_Buffer_Close_Up.GIF

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/Talquin/DSC_0100.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/Talquin/DSC_0099.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4389867-tm-tfb.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4389865-tm-tfb.jpg

Merc1138
04-09-2012, 9:34 PM
Just Imagine if this rifle happens to be a BullPup :eek:

A .50bmg bullpup?(that's what that rifle was, a BOHICA) Even without it blowing up I wouldn't want to fire such a configuration.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=258040

CSACANNONEER
04-09-2012, 9:46 PM
A .50bmg bullpup?(that's what that rifle was, a BOHICA) Even without it blowing up I wouldn't want to fire such a configuration.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=258040

??? Bohicas are not bullpups. LAR Grizzly are 50BMG bullpups.

Even with my years of not speaking highly of Bohicas and the Angeles KB, I have no problem shooting one. I really think the Angeles KB was due to a poorly maintained lower and possibly operator error. The action proved itself in that KB. The injuries occured due to the shoter putting his hands over hole that ended up venting the gasses off.

Exactly what configuration are you talking about?

Merc1138
04-09-2012, 9:51 PM
??? Bohicas are not bullpups. LAR Grizzly are 50BMG bullpups.

Even with my years of not speaking highly of Bohicas and the Angeles KB, I have no problem shooting one. I really think the Angeles KB was due to a poorly maintained lower and possibly operator error. The action proved itself in that KB. The injuries occured due to the shoter putting his hands over hole that ended up venting the gasses off.

Exactly what configuration are you talking about?

I guess I should clarify. I didn't mean to imply that bohica rifle was a bullpup, rather that the rifle was a .50bmg bohica and that I personally would not shoot a .50bmg bullpup rifle like the previous poster that I quoted mentioned.

Come on now, you think I'd mistake a bullpup for what is clearly not a bullpup when I even linked to the thread with more pics of the rifle?

(me fail english? thats unpossible!)

CSACANNONEER
04-09-2012, 9:54 PM
I guess I should clarify. I didn't mean to imply that bohica rifle was a bullpup, rather that the rifle was a .50bmg bohica and that I personally would not shoot a .50bmg bullpup rifle like the previous poster that I quoted mentioned.

Come on now, you think I'd mistake a bullpup for what is clearly not a bullpup when I even linked to the thread with more pics of the rifle?

(me fail english? thats unpossible!)

That's why I was so confused.

Merc1138
04-09-2012, 9:57 PM
That's why I was so confused.

I was probably more confused after I read your statement and thought "wtf, does he think I'm an idiot? Wait... I actually typed that..."

mod1217
04-09-2012, 9:58 PM
A .50bmg bullpup?(that's what that rifle was, a BOHICA) Even without it blowing up I wouldn't want to fire such a configuration.


I was refering to the damage to the rifle and the injuries it did to the shooter not the rifle itself.

I was merely saying that if the damage to the rifle is that severe and the rifle happens to be a bullpup just imagine what would happen to the face of the shooter

Merc1138
04-09-2012, 10:01 PM
I was refering to the damage to the rifle and the injuries it did to the shooter not the rifle itself.

I was merely saying that if the damage to the rifle is that severe and the rifle happens to be a bullpup just imagine what would happen to the face of the shooter

Yeah... that's why I wouldn't want a round that big going off right next to my face and underneath my glasses. Not that I'm specifically afraid of .50bmg, or a bullpup, I just don't like the combination.

Freagan
04-09-2012, 10:14 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/john45_66442/SakoKB2.jpg

http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1101978274688.jpeg

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/images/open_photos/CPix1-Wrecked-Rifle.jpg

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/images/open_photos/CPix6-Blown-Action.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/john45_66442/SakoKB1.jpg

skkeeter
04-09-2012, 10:21 PM
Yeah... that's why I wouldn't want a round that big going off right next to my face and underneath my glasses. Not that I'm specifically afraid of .50bmg, or a bullpup, I just don't like the combination.

Now you got worried about my DTA SRS in .338 LM!!!!!!

Freagan
04-09-2012, 10:37 PM
Actually the really graphic stuff I have seen while searching for all these pictures, are mangled hands that are so far destroyed there is literally no possibility for repair. It really makes me want to find some hardcore durable gloves to wear while shooting, But in all honesty, some of damage I have seen from the larger calibers it wouldn't matter if you had gloves on or not, a lot were shredded to pieces!

Another note, after reading some of the stories and examining the evidence they presented, not all of these "kabooms" were from reloads. Sometimes accidents just happen, and even the best manufacturers of ammunition are not immune to simple mistakes that can have large consequences. But obviously most of these are from personal reloads, and the mistakes from a tiny lapse in attention had life changing effects.

So stay careful out there, and can anyone recommend me some VERY durable gloves for shooting?

blap59
04-09-2012, 11:11 PM
This is why as a left handed shooter, all of my semi-automatics are left handed. I don't want an open port a few inches from my face. Even though chunks from the solid side can still break and fly into my face, I don't feel it would be as bad as the ejection port side.

send it_hit
04-10-2012, 1:11 AM
this whole thread makes my hair stand on end...

i've said it several times, but i'll say it again.

this hobby we share becomes exponentially more dangerous, when we forget it involved danger to begin with.

stay safe friends!

PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE
04-10-2012, 2:15 AM
This thread really wakes you up and realize stuff happens (if you know what I mean), a little paranoia has kicked in but its of the welcoming type.

zfields
04-10-2012, 2:22 AM
Actually the really graphic stuff I have seen while searching for all these pictures, are mangled hands that are so far destroyed there is literally no possibility for repair. It really makes me want to find some hardcore durable gloves to wear while shooting, But in all honesty, some of damage I have seen from the larger calibers it wouldn't matter if you had gloves on or not, a lot were shredded to pieces!

Another note, after reading some of the stories and examining the evidence they presented, not all of these "kabooms" were from reloads. Sometimes accidents just happen, and even the best manufacturers of ammunition are not immune to simple mistakes that can have large consequences. But obviously most of these are from personal reloads, and the mistakes from a tiny lapse in attention had life changing effects.

So stay careful out there, and can anyone recommend me some VERY durable gloves for shooting?

I would trust my own handloads before a factory load. I know exactly how much powder ( and that there actually IS powder ) in each round I make, along with verifying the seating depth, and case length.

mif_slim
04-10-2012, 7:01 AM
I think the OP originally started the thread to bash on SU that they explode, apparently, lots of other firearms explode too...

Long Rifle
04-10-2012, 7:06 AM
So stay careful out there, and can anyone recommend me some VERY durable gloves for shooting?

A lot of motorcycle riding gloves are very beefy, but still offer good dexterity. In fact, I'm thinking about using my old riding gloves when shooting even though it's been 12 years since I sold my CBR.

Manolito
04-10-2012, 7:14 AM
The obstructed barrels are pretty easy to pick out. The excessive pressures are pretty apparent. The firing out of battery and the other accidents don't appear to be preventable.

I have only seen one failure and it was hand loads and one round didn't clear the barrel and the scond round was fired. dramatic but no injuries.

We are dealing with contained explosions pretty easy to see the potential for failure. Some of those over pressure shots were amazing keep safe and enjoy the sport.
Bill

Sicarius
04-10-2012, 8:43 AM
Screw it, I am picking up knitting... hehe.
Kevin

joefreas
04-10-2012, 8:59 AM
http://www.thegunzone.com/m1akb/762d15.jpg

It looks like this round was loaded with C-4.

TNP'R
04-10-2012, 11:25 AM
I think the OP originally started the thread to bash on SU that they explode, apparently, lots of other firearms explode too...

Apparently he knows of some guns that explode "mission impossible" style. If a gun just self destructs for no reason i'd like to see it.

SURVIVOR619
04-10-2012, 11:46 AM
For those who gave some suggestions on how to minimize the potential for this occurring, I thank you. Jeez those photos are nerve wracking!

ThemBastards
04-10-2012, 11:58 AM
For those who gave some suggestions on how to minimize the potential for this occurring, I thank you. Jeez those photos are nerve wracking!

Damnit... I just skimmed for the photos


:hide:

osis32
04-10-2012, 12:30 PM
I'm gonna show this to everyone I go shooting with so they know not to te use rounds and to clear and function check after something doesn't fire properly.

FX-05 Xiuhcoatl
04-10-2012, 4:26 PM
http://www.firearmsforum.com/I11010.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/garang_kb2-tm-tfb.jpeg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss31/Bert2368/photo-74.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss31/Bert2368/photo-76.jpg

mn0KBzK2Kho

wow :ack2:

Root66
04-11-2012, 10:24 AM
Handguns do it too.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/root66/Explode.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/root66/Explode02.jpg

SNCaliber
04-11-2012, 11:05 AM
holy crud this thread scares the hell out of me

mif_slim
04-11-2012, 11:32 AM
According to OP's original post...

I had a Glock, it was perfect and fine. After I shot it, I took it home, cleaned it and oiled it up really nice. I put it into my safe. The next day I was prepping to go out to the range again and when I open my safe, this is what happen to my gun...I dont know how!??! I mean it was fine the day before and for sure no one shot be after I cleaned it!
:p

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a105/mif_slim/glock21kb1sh.jpg

Zartan
04-11-2012, 11:49 AM
Was that a blown out SCAR on page 1?! Ouch