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Moonshine
04-01-2012, 4:05 PM
I was wondering about which would be best for a super compact back country survival situation... Yeah the new Ruger Takedown and Marlin come to mind but I want more compact.

With the buckmark hunter you've got a very nice handgun that accurate vs the AR-7 you have a rifle with a stock to stabilize it. I rather like the idea of the buckmark with a red dot but would it be able to take small game far out enough to make it useful as a survival gun in the bush?

thenut2000
04-01-2012, 7:39 PM
AR-7 hands down. It's more accurate.

Rhythm of Life
04-01-2012, 7:42 PM
Honestly in a survival situation I could imagine building a stock for the browning.

I'd go AR7.

And plan to eventually once my C&R craze dies.

sholling
04-01-2012, 8:55 PM
Of those two I'd go with the AR-7 but would much rather have a Marlin 70PSS "Papoose" or 10/22-TD takedown. I'd mount a top quality 4x or Weaver 2.5-7x28 and leave it mounted. With the Henry you need to remove your scope (possibly losing zero) to stow the receiver in the stock but it's by far the cheapest.

http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-1022TD/Thumbs/DSC04053.jpg
Ruger 10/22-TD

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/img_selfloading_model70PSS_70pss_Case.gif
Marlin 70PSS

KandyRedCoi
04-01-2012, 9:08 PM
AR-7...yes she will be mine...one day

Army
04-02-2012, 4:51 PM
Problem with the AR7, is that it was never designed to be shot a lot. Sight it in, then stash it until you really really need it (or leave it in the bail-out kit on the B-52 :)

I would go with the Browning, as it is built to take more shooting and abuse.

bohoki
04-02-2012, 6:29 PM
not a big fan of the ar-7 ive had 3 still have one and it works pretty good but like les stroud it would take a bit of skill to survive with that survival rifle

i would rather have a m6 from springfield lr/410

bohoki
04-02-2012, 6:30 PM
not a big fan of the ar-7 ive had 3 still have one and it works pretty good but like les stroud it would take a bit of skill to survive with that survival rifle

i would rather have a m6 from springfield lr/410

usmcchet9296
04-02-2012, 7:22 PM
AR 7 is good because its light and packs small but prolly isnt a regular shooter like others have said. The Marlin and the new 10/22 are rifles you can take backpacking and take to the range ann are built like tanks. Personally of the 2 the 10/22 TD to me offers the best of both worlds but if I ever have money id also get the AR 7 along with the 10/22TD.

orthopod
04-02-2012, 9:40 PM
Of those two I'd go with the AR-7 but would much rather have a Marlin 70PSS "Papoose" or 10/22-TD takedown. I'd mount a top quality 4x or Weaver 2.5-7x28 and leave it mounted. With the Henry you need to remove your scope (possibly losing zero) to stow the receiver in the stock but it's by far the cheapest.

http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-1022TD/Thumbs/DSC04053.jpg
Ruger 10/22-TD

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/img_selfloading_model70PSS_70pss_Case.gif
Marlin 70PSS

Do you own any of these Scholling? If you wanted to turn a regular 10/22 into a survival/pack rifle how would you do it? I am just curious at this stage as I already plan to turn my 1st 10/22 into a small tactical sniper:)...like a Remington 700 police little brother. But in case I ever needed to turn my 10/22 into a pack rifle in a pinch I may pick up some parts in the future to have handy.

prime mover
04-03-2012, 7:22 AM
The guy I got my 10/22 from cut a couple inches off the front of the stock, it has a floating barrel and he had a hole in a backpack the barrel would stick out looked like an antennae, he would ride a dirt bike and hike with it like that.

sholling
04-03-2012, 9:18 AM
Do you own any of these Scholling? If you wanted to turn a regular 10/22 into a survival/pack rifle how would you do it? I am just curious at this stage as I already plan to turn my 1st 10/22 into a small tactical sniper:)...like a Remington 700 police little brother. But in case I ever needed to turn my 10/22 into a pack rifle in a pinch I may pick up some parts in the future to have handy.


I've shot the AR-7 once and the Marlin rifle the 70PSS is based on (the Model 60) many-many times, but not the take down 70PSS Papoose. The Model 60 is a nice 22. I own a safe full of custom 10/22s (6 or 7 plus parts to build 2 more when I get around to it) but the 10/22TD is so new that I haven't gotten to touch one yet. If I bought a takedown for myself it would probably be the 10/22TD because I know 10/22s so well. The only changes that I'd make are a trigger job and the addition of a top quality low powered scope. I'm not sure how you'd effectively convert an existing 10/22 into a repeatable takedown rifle so I'd just save up and buy one.

Here's an overview of 22 survival rifles (http://www.chuckhawks.com/survival_rifles.htm) from Chuck Hawks.

Here's a review of the Marlin (http://archives.gunsandammo.com/content/marlin-papoose).
A review of the 10/22TD (http://gunblast.com/Ruger-1022TD.htm).

xMWTN-xQo_g

Quickdraw Mcgraw
04-03-2012, 10:28 AM
I personally think the buckmark is already a pretty heavy sidearm an ya go and add a reddot to it an its gonna be REALLY heavy.

Check out Smith and Wessons 3"1/2 317 airweight. Now thats is a Backpack/survival gun an fires 8shots an weighs somthing like 10oz. I lil pricy, but totally in its own class!!

robcoe
04-03-2012, 10:49 AM
I was wondering about which would be best for a super compact back country survival situation... Yeah the new Ruger Takedown and Marlin come to mind but I want more compact.

With the buckmark hunter you've got a very nice handgun that accurate vs the AR-7 you have a rifle with a stock to stabilize it. I rather like the idea of the buckmark with a red dot but would it be able to take small game far out enough to make it useful as a survival gun in the bush?

Just between those 2, the Henry AR7