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Ogre8472
03-30-2012, 8:56 PM
So after talking to some friends a few think anything above a 3-9 power is over kill. I just happen to think thats a basic starting point. I personally like to hunt squirrels. The highest I go for the tree squirrel is 9. But the ground squirrels ive gone as high as 16 power. 24 on my .22 mag. Only hecause it can reach out to 140+ yards with the right ammo.
What do you all think?

Carsgunsandchics
03-30-2012, 9:00 PM
I run a 6x24 on my 10/22 but I don't typically play at less than 50yds

JNunez23
03-30-2012, 9:05 PM
I use a 4x32 plinking scope on my 10/22, but is really only effective up to 100 yards. The highest I would go is 3-9x if you feel you will be taking longer shots..

HeHateMe
03-30-2012, 9:09 PM
You can never have enough scope.

covingtonhouse
03-30-2012, 9:17 PM
SFor squirrel, rats, rabbit etc from a fixed position probably no more than 16x due to field of view issues. Moving/shooting I go 4x cause they are typically moving, and snap shots are more the norm. Target work I go 18x at 50 and 100yds. Took many a ground squirrel and rabbit as a kid with a bolt action Remington with a 4x32 scope. Local cattle rancher paid $1 a tail for ground squirrel bounty and the rabbits were unwelcome in my friends dads raspberry fields.

TheBest
03-30-2012, 9:19 PM
4-12x on my 795.

pennys dad
03-30-2012, 9:30 PM
I like starting at 1.5 or 2 after that I like keeping the scope under 32mm

ThE_LoNgShOt
03-30-2012, 9:37 PM
4X16X40 on my Savage Mark ii TR

Ogre8472
03-30-2012, 9:55 PM
Took many a ground squirrel and rabbit as a kid with a bolt action Remington with a 4x32 scope. Local cattle rancher paid $1 a tail for ground squirrel bounty and the rabbits were unwelcome in my friends dads raspberry fields.

Lucky
:King:
The best i got as a kid was a quarter a crow from protecting my aunts garden with my pellet gun.

sholling
03-30-2012, 10:02 PM
First off quality is far more important than magnification. For my 22 collection I have good scopes ranging from a fixed 4x32 to 3-9x32RF (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?sku=374668&Q=&O=productlist&WEC9X32RRM=&is=REG&A=details), to 6-24x42 AO (http://swfa.com/Weaver-6-24x42-Classic-V-Rifle-Scope-P588.aspx), to a fixed 24x40 (http://swfa.com/Weaver-24x40-T-Series-Rifle-Scope-P2869.aspx). It just depends on what I use a given 22 for. My next scope purchase will be 4-16x42 (http://swfa.com/Weaver-4-16x42-Classic-V-Rifle-Scope-P585.aspx) for flexibility. I like a 4x32 shotgun or RF scope, 2.5-7x28RF, or a 3-9x32RF/AO for plinking and survival. On the other hand my passion is benchrest and for that I like a good quality 6-24x42 or a 24x40 or even a 36x40.

I do own 2 cheapies but they will eventually be replaced with Weaver Classic scopes.

randomBytes
03-30-2012, 10:03 PM
2-7x33 but wasn't on your list

jbush
03-31-2012, 12:59 AM
I put a 3x9 on my 17 hmr when I bought it and then about 8 months later I customized a 10/22 to punch paper and misc shooting 50 yds plus. I put a Mueller 4x14 on the 22. I like the 4x14 so much better I'm going to order another when money allows for my 17. So much better when you get out to 75 or 100 yds.

drifter2be
03-31-2012, 1:10 AM
It really depends on what range you shoot at in my humble opinion. My first 22lr I had a fixed 4X, but I was only shooting out to 50 yards max. I pretty much shoot at 50 yards minimum now and even at as far as 150 yards and I probably wouldn't be able to put the rounds in the outer circle of the target without my 3-9x set to 9 at 150 yards.

Mssr. Eleganté
03-31-2012, 2:39 AM
My only 10/22 has a Sightron fixed 24X scope and my Remington 40XUS has a Weaver fixed 36X scope. All of my vintage scoped .22s have 4X Weavers except for my Winchester Model 75 with a 24X Unertl.

The high magnification scopes are pretty neat, but only if you are shooting from a rest. Off hand they will make you car sick.

roushstage2
03-31-2012, 2:43 AM
My 10/22 has a 4x (and the farthest I'll shoot it is ~50 yards), the XT-22 has a 3-9x and the 795 has a 3-9x.

ejhc11
03-31-2012, 6:58 AM
I like starting at 1.5 or 2 after that I like keeping the scope under 32mm

Totally agreed 100% - anything over 32mm is a overpowering a 22LR rifle in usage, look and weight.

Best is the Weaver rimfire scope 2.5-7x28 at less than 9oz.

I didn't want to spring on the $50 rebate deal on the current Nikon rimfire scopes 3-9x40mm - just think the 40mm is waaay too big for a small rimfire rifle. The 4x32mm Nikon would be a better choice but I prefer lower power starting also.

htfan
03-31-2012, 8:28 AM
I would think this poll/discussion would depend a lot on the type of 10/22 we are talking about.

Stock vs. Custom Tack Driver

MongooseV8
03-31-2012, 8:48 AM
You can never have enough scope.

FTW

The War Wagon
03-31-2012, 8:50 AM
I use an old Comp M personally. That FIRST one they made, that has about 12 hours of battery life. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/icons/icon11.gif

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/The_War_Wagon/100_7631.jpg

It'll git 'r' done though. :cool:

Ogre8472
03-31-2012, 9:18 AM
I would think this poll/discussion would depend a lot on the type of 10/22 we are talking about.

Stock vs. Custom Tack Driver

I didnt start this thread for 10/22s. I did it for ALL .22lr rifles. If you read the first post its about the question of scope overkill. Ive seen a good spread of scope powers and usages.

More folks in here use their lr for long range target than i would have thought. Good for them if thay can do it. :cool:

MyOdessa
03-31-2012, 10:41 AM
All magnifications in the poll have place on .22 LR, just depends on what weapon is being used for.

htfan
03-31-2012, 11:13 AM
I didnt start this thread for 10/22s. I did it for ALL .22lr rifles. If you read the first post its about the question of scope overkill. Ive seen a good spread of scope powers and usages.

More folks in here use their lr for long range target than i would have thought. Good for them if thay can do it. :cool:

I'm with you on this. I could have replaced my "10/22" with "22lr" in my other post.

It all depends on the rifle/shooter/purpose :oji:

kellanmeigh
03-31-2012, 11:17 AM
Old Weaver .22lr scope on my old 10-22

The Old Warhorse :43:

Izzy43
03-31-2012, 12:33 PM
I own a number of .22s so I have a variety of scopes for different purposes.

Three 6.5-20X
Two 3-9X
One 8-32X
One 7-21X
One 6-24X

Two factors determine my scope choices: My aging eyesight and use. For target work I prefer higher magnification. For plinking and 25 yd target work the 3-9X is perfect. I currently have more scopes than rifles so I'm in the process of thining the herd.

hatidua
03-31-2012, 12:47 PM
I like to stretch things out a bit in terms of distance so an important factor for me is how much elevation adjustment a given scope has. I currently shoot two .22 rifles (Sako Quad and CZ 453 Varmint) and both of them wear a Leupold Mark-4 16x, which when coupled with a 20MOA base will get me out to 427 yards with subsonic ammo before hold-over becomes necessary.

thedrifter
03-31-2012, 4:43 PM
Weaver T-36 kidd said I agree with above you can never have too much scope only too little skill, some 22's can punch out a 1/2" group or less at 100 yards I'm lucky enough to have one, but ill admit most of the time my bad wind call push me to around a 3/4 group get me in prone and its still a good looking group

wjc
03-31-2012, 5:36 PM
I don't have one on my M&P 15-22 yet but my gun shop is trying to find me a 3X9X33 Rimfire EFR to mount on it for varmints.

Supposedly Leupold is not making them and they are kind of tough to find (don't believe it).

thompson pump
03-31-2012, 5:47 PM
The 22 lr is accurate i shoot it past 100 yards touching in a 2 inch group

Ogre8472
03-31-2012, 6:12 PM
Wow. I'm loving the input here guys:hurray: keep it coming!

I admit i hadn't thought of a .22lr doing much beyond 100 yards. I guess it just goes to you its the person pulling the trigger that does the hard stuff.

Now that ive seen some input here im planning on adding a scope well a better scope to my new Savage 64fxp. Ive never had a semi-auto with a scope befor but this is going to be my new squirrel gun so I'm probably going to stay in the medium power for this. Maybe 4-12x. Anyone know a good MD scope in that class?

dangerranger
03-31-2012, 8:05 PM
my favorite hunting scope is a weaver 6x fixed, but for ground squirrels its 6x24!

Timberwolf
03-31-2012, 8:35 PM
My old Sears 22 sports a 2-7 Leupy, my Sav Mk II precision rifle has a Nikon 6-18X40.

CSACANNONEER
03-31-2012, 8:44 PM
It depends on the rifle, it's use and the shooter's ability. While I prefer irons for many guns, I've had a 6.5-20X scope on the .22 I built for metalic silhoutte since 1986. Other rimfire rifles have irons, 1X red dots, 4x, 4-12X, etc.

orthopod
03-31-2012, 9:02 PM
Is 3-9x40 not enough for silhouette? I am getting my first 10/22 this week and my local range (Sunnyvale Rod and Gun) does silhouette and I would like to try it out. This 10/22 will be used for target shooting exclusively (no hunting unless I was in a situation where I absolutely needed to hunt varmint) and as a new shooter I don't know what I am going to like best...benchrest, silhouette, etc. so I would like to get something that is good for more than one thing. I was thinking of getting the Nikon 3-9x40 (maybe the EFR?) while they have the $50 off promotion but am open to all good advice.

checkenbach
03-31-2012, 9:02 PM
6-24x42 on my CZ and Weatherby, both are used for sillywet and varmint steel games, and the occasional 100 yd benchrest match, no hunting.

orthopod
03-31-2012, 9:07 PM
6-24x42 on my CZ and Weatherby, both are used for sillywet and varmint steel games, and the occasional 100 yd benchrest match, no hunting.

Thank you. Feel free to keep the suggestions coming guys and I will look them up online in terms of price.

Ogre8472
03-31-2012, 9:12 PM
So I decided to stick with what works best for me and took a Tasco World Class 3-9x40 off and air gun ive had it sitting on and swapped it with the 4x15 Tasco. :) it looks great now. I cant wait to get to the 50 and try it out. Pic to follow soon. :)

Ogre8472
03-31-2012, 9:16 PM
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x465/ogre8472/2012-03-31_21-13-40_682.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x465/ogre8472/2012-03-31_21-14-12_30.jpg

Gatotsu77
03-31-2012, 9:20 PM
Currently my only rimfire (and only rifle, though that will change in the next year or so) has a Hawke 6-24x44 Varmint scope mounted to it. (Savage Mark II BTVS) I haven't even gotten to test out the new scope since mounting it, as I blew out my back big time in November. (had a 4-16x40 mounted previously) For shooting from the bench, the higher magnification is nice. If I were shooting off-hand, I'd probably keep this scope dialed down to 6x, and perhaps still feel like I've got too much magnification. My new rimfire (H&K Umarex MP5 A5) which I will be picking up on 4/5 will be sticking with iron sights. Match the optic to the weapon and intended purpose, and you'll be fine. Putting a 6-24x44 on my MP5 would be silly at best.

the_midwesterner
03-31-2012, 9:56 PM
Rocking a Leupold VX-I

mkane
04-01-2012, 8:09 AM
36x and wanting more

cudakidd
04-01-2012, 10:24 AM
Overkill? What's that?;)

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/cudakidd/ruger/CIMG4883.jpg

Mstnpete
04-01-2012, 10:32 AM
With Red Dot.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/amgguy/IMG_0006-2-1.jpg

With 3x9x32 scope.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/amgguy/IMG_0006-3-1.jpg


Dater of High Profile Chicks <---- under the screen name -- must be April fools joke!....lol

PUBLIUS51
04-01-2012, 10:50 AM
Gents,
In my opinion, I like as much scope as I can get. In fact, I mounted Extra Tall Rings on my Savage .17 with heavy barrel in order to accommodate my Mueller 8.5-25X50.
This Savage is great out to 200 meters dead on. Wonderful to look at and comfortable. Just a beautiful gun. Have a look at her. Ain't she pretty?

Ogre8472
04-04-2012, 10:38 AM
Bump just to see if there are any more thoughts. :)

Merc1138
04-04-2012, 11:44 AM
As much scope as you can get, depending on your application.

The higher the magnification, the smaller the field of view(generally). But if you're just shooting at paper targets or something, it doesn't matter if your FOV at 100 yards is only 2ft. I've never gone varmint hunting(and have no plans to) but I know I'd never want to use a scope with a magnification so high that the FOV becomes unusable for finding a target. The exit pupil diameter is another problem with really high power scopes, and as a result makes the position of your eye behind the scope so critical that being slightly off can make the thing useless.

The last 22 I built has a mueller APV on it, which isn't bad for the price(definitely better than the utg, barska, ncstar, bsa, etc. junk), but doesn't come close in image quality to the leupold vx-3(4.5x14) that resides on my .308 even though they're roughly the same magnification range and same objective lens diameter.

That being said, I have a sightron SII 36x showing up eventually for something that will be completed eventually. Why? Curiosity on my part. Even though I don't find the mueller APV to be garbage, I'm just not sure I'd trust their higher magnification scopes to be worth a crap at 100 yards and I wanted a high magnification scope just for the sake of having experience with it(but not wanting to start with something that'll end up being a waste of money).

testarija@yahoo.com
04-05-2012, 9:39 AM
hello my fellow Savage 64 owner. I have a 6x24 on my AR15 and I just love to zoom in on my target so I ended up getting the same for my Savage. And 50 yards for the Savage is no challenge with any scope so you mind as have some extra magnification for a 100 yard target.

Walter Mitty
04-05-2012, 1:18 PM
I have a 3x9 on mine, but only because I had it as a spare scope just lying around.

Ogre8472
04-12-2012, 7:02 AM
Just as I had hoped, theres some great information in here. :) Thanks to everyone that gave a suggestion or input in this thread. Im sure it will be referenced at least once or twice in here and will be helpful to those seeking the advice.

BBJohnnyT
04-12-2012, 7:49 AM
A 40mm or larger scope looks ridiculous on a little 22, IMO. I have a small Leupold 1-4x20mm on one rifle and Nikon 2-7x32mm on another. Those are plenty of scope for the little 22 caliber. Anything larger just adds weight and is ungainly for anything but target shooting from a bench rest (but that's boring).

My other three .22 rifles have the Williams peep sight on them, two with the front firesight and one with a gold bead. Scopes are fun, but peep sights are my favorite because they're fast, adds no weight and can hit anything out to 100 yards.

Stoopy
04-12-2012, 7:52 AM
Bushnell 4200 6-24x50 on a 25 MOA base. I have to back down my magnification all the way to 6 crank all my elevation and use a lot of hold over to get out to 300 yards with it. I have just enough adjustment to be able to dial 200 yards without using hold overs. Quality is very important if you are going to shoot longer distances.

Stoopy
04-12-2012, 7:54 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4dd51-ec79-8bc9.jpg

bombadillo
04-12-2012, 8:19 AM
Go to natchezss.com and look at the truglo infinity scopes for $69.99. They are a 6-24x44 with a fine target crosshair and are a great .22lr scope with an adjustable objective from 15 yards to infinity. I use them on anything from an AR to my .17hmr and they've held up to a lot of abuse for the money. They also have mil-dot but I don't like using that for smallbore.

deadcoyote
04-12-2012, 9:04 AM
I have a 4-16 on my Savage 93FVSS.

Eljay
04-12-2012, 9:13 AM
A 40mm or larger scope looks ridiculous on a little 22, IMO. I have a small Leupold 1-4x20mm on one rifle and Nikon 2-7x32mm on another. Those are plenty of scope for the little 22 caliber. Anything larger just adds weight and is ungainly for anything but target shooting from a bench rest (but that's boring).




Nonsense. I have a 4x40 scope on my 10/22 and it's just about perfect for general use - not so much magnification that it's irritating while standing but it lets me see what I'm shooting at 100.

22popnsplat
04-12-2012, 9:37 AM
For straight target work i like the weaver t36 , for hunting with a 22 I would go with varible 4-12xao. On all my scopes i like to have a adjustable objective

RandyD
04-12-2012, 9:57 AM
It depends on the rifle, it's use and the shooter's ability.

Cannoneer is on point.

I shoot competition with a .22 in smallbore prone matches with an Anschutz 2013, and I use a fixed 24X Leupold scope and some competitiors use a 36X. The rifle is accurate enough that the magnification facilitates making more precise shots. In smallbore prone competition, the shooting position is fixed and very steady and the target is also fixed. Using 24X with a shooting coat on, my heart beat makes the crosshairs dance up and down through the 10 ring.

My field rifle is an Anschutz Sporter model 54 and I use a Leupold variable scope, 4.5 X 14 40mm. That has worked out very well for me for many years. Again the rifle is very accurate, which justifies having a good quality scope with higher magnification.

I mounted a Leupold M8 2.5X on my daughter's cricket .22. She can hit anything within 50 yards with that rifle-scope combination.