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rrr
04-17-2007, 8:24 AM
“My heart nearly stopped when I heard that more than 30 people had been killed at Virginia Tech today.

In an instant, the hopes and dreams of students were destroyed by a cowardly and terrible act of insane violence. My deepest condolences go to all those touched by this violence.

"It is my deep belief that shootings like these are enabled by the unparalleled ease with which people procure weapons in this country. And I believe this will reignite the dormant effort to pass common-sense gun regulations in this nation.”

Senator Feinstein is the author of the 1994 federal Assault Weapons Ban, which prohibited the manufacture and importation of 19-types of military-style assault weapons and dozens of others by physical characteristic.
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It's never going to change her mind but if all responsible gun owners in Calif contacted her office and told her how you resent that fact that she is using this criminal act to further her anti-gun agenda, and that criminals will never obey the law, at least she would know that she faces opposition and just can't ride on the emotions of this event to push through more gun laws.

San Francisco
One Post Street, Suite 2450
San Francisco, CA 94104
Phone: (415) 393-0707
Fax: (415) 393-0710

The following counties are served by the San Francisco office: Alameda, Butte, Colusa, Contra Costa, Del Norte, El Dorado, Glenn, Humboldt, Lake, Lassen, Marin, Mendocino, Modoc, Monterey, Napa, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, San Benito, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Shasta, Sierra, Siskiyou, Solano, Sonoma, Sutter, Tehama, Trinity, Yolo, Yuba.


Los Angeles
11111 Santa Monica Blvd., Suite 915
Los Angeles, CA 90025
Phone: (310) 914-7300
Fax: (310) 914-7318

The following counties are served by the Los Angeles office: Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, Ventura.


San Diego
750 B Street, Suite 1030
San Diego, CA 92101
Phone: (619) 231-9712
Fax: (619) 231-1108

The following counties are served by the San Diego office: Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, Imperial, San Diego.


Fresno
2500 Tulare Street, Suite 4290
Fresno, CA 93721
Phone: (559) 485-7430
Fax: (559) 485-9689

The following counties are served by the Fresno office: Alpine, Amador, Calaveras, Fresno, Imperial, Inyo, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, Mono, San Joaquin, San Luis Obispo, Stanislaus, Tulare, Tuolumne.

SemiAutoSam
04-17-2007, 8:40 AM
I made several calls to various offices and was prepared with correct City's and zip codes that were in the area I called.

We need to stack the deck in this war its the only way we will get the attention of those that claim to be our representatives

rrr
04-17-2007, 8:54 AM
I made several calls to various offices and was prepared with correct City's and zip codes that were in the area I called.

We need to stack the deck in this war its the only way we will get the attention of those that claim to be our representatives

Agreed. The libs and news media are going to use this this crime to produce maximum emotion for more laws. they can't get away with it if every gun owner makes themselves heard.

If we don't, we'll lose.

SemiAutoSam
04-17-2007, 8:55 AM
I read this little blurb to the Girl that answered the phone.

Lets see if I have the facts straight...

Va has a one gun a month law to stem gun related crime =
He followed the law and bought 1 gun a month. Did this stop this heinous crime from happening? Nope.

VT does not allow firearms on campus =
Did this stop Mr. Crazy from bringing guns on campus? Answer again is No

Laws on books against murder/assault =
Did this stop Mr. Crazy from killing 30+ ppl and injuring others? No again.

So, can someone tell me how more restrictions/laws is going to stop some crazy lunatic from doing this in the future?

Allow students to CCW on campus = Well with this plan of action, you at least give the students/victims an option to defend themselves and others. These poor victims didnt even have an option other than to run or jump out of windows.

We cannot prevent crazy non-law abiding ppl from doing whatever evil they are intent on doing, the will always find a way.

what we can do is allow others to take action and prevent and minimize the damage

bbq_ribs
04-17-2007, 10:06 AM
"It is my deep belief that shootings like these are enabled by the unparalleled ease with which people procure weapons in this country. And I believe this will reignite the dormant effort to pass common-sense gun regulations in this nation.”


You mean "criminals" and not "people" - right Mrs Feinstein?

Arrrgh. I cannot stand that backstabbing woman. I can't believe that she hasn't been forced off of the ethics committee after the Metro exposed her & her husbands' shady dealings. The mainstream media just ignored the issue that she's a SNAKE.

I got another one of the NRA-ILA letters. Last night, I checked the box for the highest amount I could afford at the moment and sent in a check.

billym
04-17-2007, 12:42 PM
She needs to go once and for all.
We must work to get her out of office evry way we can.

Serpentine
04-17-2007, 1:01 PM
The way I see it, the only way this lunatic at VT could have been stopped, is if someone at the scene were able to FIGHT BACK! I'd like to see some laws, and rights recognized, that would support that ability.

Prc329
04-17-2007, 1:13 PM
I emailed her this

Senator Feinstein,

I read your comments on the tragedy that unfolded in Virginia Tech. While I appreciate your sympathy for what happened i have to disagree with you on how to address this issue. More gun control is not the answer. I am sure you are aware Virginia Tech had outlawed the ability for lawful students to legally carry a firearm on campus or have a firearm on campus at all. I believe situations like this create a opening for situations of these sort to occur. If the shooter had any fear of being stopped by a law abiding citizen that was legally armed the situation may not have occurred. He had the knowledge he would be the only individual that would have a gun and there for the ability to move from room to room without fear of being confronted.

I believe we have more then enough gun control laws in this country and we need to concentrate on instilling proper values in our children and following up on problem cases when they are identified. It came out in the papers today about how this individual was referred to a councilor. The problem was known yet was instead allowed to grow into the tragedy that occurred.

I am pretty sure your mind is made up on your feeling about gun control but the tragedy that unfolded in Virginia Tech a "gun free zone" shows that gun control does not work.

Thank you for your time and I look forward to a reply

Let's see if I get a reply :)

JALLEN
04-17-2007, 1:20 PM
This letter went out to my elected reps this morning:

"It is now well passed time to deal with the unfortunate gun laws that help bring about yesterday's tragic loss of life at Virginia Tech.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200209%5 CNAT20020917a.html

Having folks with concealed carry permits, over age 21, background checks, no criminal records, no drug/alcohol issues, with training, makes all the sense in the world, and offers the ONLY hope of stopping these rampages before they get too far. Right now, hundreds of thousands of folks, adult, responsible people, HAVE concealed carry permits in most states, but are prohibited from carrying weapons on school campuses. Moreover, a significant number of college students today are veterans. Virginia has good laws regarding concealed carry, but bans carrying weapons on college campuses. Someone should have pointed that out to the shooter!

The police cannot hope to respond in time under any circumstances. There would never be enough manpower, enough budget, to count on that.

I was a student at University of Texas in the mid-60's. The sniper in the University Tower was stopped by an off-duty Austin policeman, along with a civilian accomplice, who saw what was happening and took it upon himself to do something, while the shooter was distracted by folks on campus who had gotten their deer hunting rifles out of their trucks.

I have spent the last 20+ years wishing that a concealed carry permit holder had been munching a cheeseburger at the McDonalds in San Ysidro when James Huberty opened up. Susan Gratia Hupp, a doctor and now a State Representative in Texas, watched her parents murdered in Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, unable to do anything to prevent it, because her pistol was in the glove compartment of the car, as it was illegal to carry it into the restaurant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKG6Nch7iBA. (Notice Senator Schumer sitting there looking like something he ate didn't agree with him.)

We need "shall issue" concealed carry laws, and repeal of laws forbidding weapons on campuses, which, thanks to those laws, are now free-fire zones for the deranged. As hard as it is for those who favor gun banishment to understand, gun laws only affect law-abiding citizens, not criminals who are going to get their hands on guns no matter what laws are passed, and use them as they wish unless they are deterred, or stopped.

We have far, far less to fear from concealed carry than we do from not being able to stop these deranged folks when they begin their rampages.

California has some of the most idiotic gun laws of any jurisdiction in the civilized world. Can I count on you to help pass "shall-issue" legislation that would require the Sheriff to issue concealed weapons permits to citizens who demonstrate good moral character, no criminal record, or record of drug/alcohol abuse, and complete training programs?

Can we throw out the hodge-podge of law making it nearly impossible for a typical citizen to determine which weapons are legal in California and which are not? An overwhelming majority of states do not restrict citizens from owning so-called “assault weapons” without the slightest problems. Those states chose not to make criminals of law-abiding citizens, and California should do likewise."

I would have added, but found it after mailing the letters, a reference to Neal Boortz point, that more of these school/mass killings are stopped by civilians, not police. The sniper shooting of the San Diego SWAT that ended the McDonalds massacre in San Ysidro, after 77 minutes, is the only exception I can think of. The Texas Tower killing spree of Charles Whitman was stopped by an off-duty Austin cop with a civilian acomplice, 96 minutes after it began. This isn't to dis the police by any means; there will never be enough manpower and budget to be everywhere at once.

whomper
04-17-2007, 1:58 PM
I'll shoot her an email.

FWIW, in the UT Shootings, the first responders were hunters who had deer rifles in their trucks. The fella who shot Whitman was Austin PD. I dunno if he was on/off duty. He shot him with his revolver, then grabbed his partners 12 gauge and put another in him for good measure.

JALLEN
04-17-2007, 2:16 PM
I'll shoot her an email.

FWIW, in the UT Shootings, the first responders were hunters who had deer rifles in their trucks. The fella who shot Whitman was Austin PD. I dunno if he was on/off duty. He shot him with his revolver, then grabbed his partners 12 gauge and put another in him for good measure.

I was a UT student back then; hunters who had deer rifles in their trucks was just about everybody! In the Texas hill country of my youth, most high school parking lots had more weapons hanging on racks in pick-ups than most police departments.

Here is the version of the closing moments I found: http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/whitman/tower_6.html

I recall that one of the reasons Whitman didn't have more people to shoot at was that it was the 100th Aniversary of Shultz's Beer Garden, a very popular watering hole on those days, and it was Nickel Beer Day that day, or maybe that week.

shark92651
04-17-2007, 2:19 PM
I don't think fear of someone else having a gun would of stopped this guy, since he obviously was ready to die anyway. I think a better way to word this would be that someone would have had an opportunity to defend their own lives and those around them if they had not been denied their legal right to carry.

Buddydog
04-17-2007, 3:11 PM
Here is my letter. I just faxed....

Dearest Senator Feinstein,

As a tax paying citizen of California I humbly ask that you reserve making any further anti-gun comments. You clearly do not have a grasp on the fact that the intended effect of these gun laws clearly do nothing more than prohibit law abiding citizens from expressing their constitutionally granted rights.

To use the tragedy in Virginia as a soapbox to espouse your anti-gun platform is shallow and disgusting. Clearly the perpetrator of this crime aimed to take out as many people as possible before ending his life. He could have done this in a number of ways including explosives, fire or a steak knife. Unfortunately for all gun owners, he chose to use a gun.

Quit while you are ahead, California gun laws are already looked at as ridiculous by the rest of the country.

Sincerely,


Geoff Higgins

frommycolddeadhands
04-17-2007, 3:19 PM
Here is my letter. I just faxed....

abiding citizens from expressing their constitutionally granted rights.


one note: constitution does not grant us rights, it defends our rights.

rrr
04-18-2007, 7:56 AM
For anyone contacting Fenstein or any other representive.

Emails carrry very little weight

phone calls, faxes and mailed letters are better.

bruss01
04-18-2007, 9:54 AM
Here's mine:

Senator Feinstein,

Should we have crazy people or criminals have free and easy access to firearms? I don't think that serves anyone's interest. However there are problems with gun control schemes. We cannot rightfully punish the lawful for the deeds of the lawless. We cannot deprive citizens of their lawful constitutional rights.

While the Virginia Tech massacre is a sorrowful and tragic event, let's take a moment to see what existing gun control did and did not do. There is a background check to keep mental patients and felons from legally obtaining a gun. The shooter was neither a mental patient nor was he a convicted felon, so he passed the background check. Virginia has a law restricting handgun purchases to one per month. Again, the shooter purchased 2 handguns, one month apart in compliance with the law. Up to this point everything that occured was legal and proper. The man who was to become the VT shooter was troubled, but then many people are troubled, who are in no way a danger to themselves or others. But he did take a gun onto campus, where guns are prohibited by school policy. That policy did not stop him. He opened fire on classmates and instructors, violating many other laws, from minor offenses such as firing a gun within city limits and carrying a concealed firearm w/o a permit all the way up to assault and murder. These laws did not stop him from committing his deadly deeds.

What did the anti-gun policies accomplish? It assured that none of the victims were armed and able to rise to their own defense. It assured that those who follow the law fell prey to those who disregard the law. It assured the shooter of a "fish in the barrel" safe zone, knowing he would be able to slay dozens of people before he would be stopped. By disarming the faculty, staff and students, gun control laws and policies indirectly resulted in a much higher body count than would have occured if even one student or instructor had been able to return fire and stop the murderer before he had been able to fire even a handful of shots.

I am pretty sure your mind is made up on your feeling about gun control but the tragedy that unfolded in Virginia Tech a "gun free zone" shows that gun control does not work and is actually, in tangible terms, doing more harm than good.

Respectfully yours -

mcubed4130
04-18-2007, 1:54 PM
Whatever happened to term limits? These same gun control nuts like Fienstien have been in office almost my entire life. Man, no wonder things never get better, because we have the same old people doing things the same old way. They should have 2 terms in ANY public office and then that's it, not a lifetime job of trying to make CA a socialist country.

Technically speaking... Feinstein's job to is make the rest of the country into a CA style socialist country.

Our own state senate and state assembly are the ones making CA into a socialist playground. And it's amazing how few people even know the names of their state senator and state assembly people - but then again, thats probably because state senators are limited to (2) terms 8 years total; and state assembly is (3) terms 6 years total.

As for why federal representatives have no limits, we can grumble at the Republicans for not getting the job done in the mid 1990s (they didn't get the 2/3rd majority due to in-fighting)... but then conversely we can just outright hate the Democrats for never even attempting such a noble task.

-M3

chris
04-18-2007, 4:44 PM
this is my letter to the useless senator we have. i cannot stand that woman at all.


Dear Senator Feinstein,

I have read your comments on the tragic events at Virginia Tech. I'm appalled that you would use this tragedy to further useless gun-control. This is not the time to further an agenda that will have no impact on criminals obtaining firearms.

Another thing that the person who did this purchased his firearms legally. since no laws were broken in obtaining these firearms no more legislation is needed.

What should have happened was campus officials heeded the warning signs of this person. but they did not. I ask you not to push for more gun-control instead I ask you to push for legislation or anything that can stop this type of tragedy from happening again.

Ford8N
04-18-2007, 5:53 PM
I have written this ruler twice and both times I did not even get an agree to disagree letter. Nothing, nada. I was even polite and cordial, no redneck rants or raves. So I give up. Although I might write a letter to humor myself.;)

jaymz
04-18-2007, 8:04 PM
Too bad her heart only "nearly" stopped.:mad: