Paladin
04-17-2007, 08:23 AM
The recent tragedy of the Virginia Tech massacre makes the Trolley Square mall shooting in UT very relevant. There, the BG was better armed using both a shotgun and a handgun as well as having a backpack full of ammo. Yet the number of killed (4 + BG) and injured (4?) was far less partly because an off-duty LEO was packing in violation of the mall's "No Weapons" policy. The outcome in the Trolley Square incident is our best defense against the antis who will try to use the VT incident to pass new "gun control" laws and increase the number of "gun-free zones."
Naturally, the antis don't want the facts of the Trolley Square shooting widely known. If you go to the Wikipedia article re it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting) you will see a note that they are considering merging the shooting article with an article about the BG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulejman_Talovic). Surprise! That bio article does NOT mention either the mall's "no weapons" policy or the fact that an off-duty LEO was the one who stopped the massacre. Even the Trolley Square article does not make it clear that the first person to engage the BG was the off-duty LEO. Neither does it mention that the mall has a "no weapons" policy that required CCW permit holders to disarm before entering the mall.
If you are a contributor to Wikipedia, go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trolley_Square_shooting , "Proposed Merger" and "Oppose" and let them know that the shooting should stand on its own so that students and researchers interested in it won't have to sort through the bio info to get the facts of the incident. The Tyler courthouse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Courtroom_Shooting) and Beltway shootings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks) get their own articles and so should the Trolley Square.
Under "CCW Prohibited," they need a citation for Trolley Square mall's No Weapons policy. Try: http://johnrlott.tripod.com/uploaded_images/HPIM0240-724381.jpg noting policy/rule #10. Be sure to add that to the main article as well. If it wasn't for one off-duty LEO choosing to disobey the mall's policy, that BG would have had an "open season" on shoppers until on-duty LEOs showed up. However, if that mall had a "No Weapons Without a Permit" policy, other innocent people may have had a chance to defend their lives.
Also, I was unable to find a Wikipedia article re the Tacoma Mall shooting (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002641156_mallshooting23m.html) where a GG CCW'er tried to talk a BG active shooter into stopping and was shot in the chest w/an AK for his efforts. Not a good case for CCWs, but still deserving of a Wikipedia article.
Naturally, the antis don't want the facts of the Trolley Square shooting widely known. If you go to the Wikipedia article re it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting) you will see a note that they are considering merging the shooting article with an article about the BG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulejman_Talovic). Surprise! That bio article does NOT mention either the mall's "no weapons" policy or the fact that an off-duty LEO was the one who stopped the massacre. Even the Trolley Square article does not make it clear that the first person to engage the BG was the off-duty LEO. Neither does it mention that the mall has a "no weapons" policy that required CCW permit holders to disarm before entering the mall.
If you are a contributor to Wikipedia, go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trolley_Square_shooting , "Proposed Merger" and "Oppose" and let them know that the shooting should stand on its own so that students and researchers interested in it won't have to sort through the bio info to get the facts of the incident. The Tyler courthouse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Courtroom_Shooting) and Beltway shootings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks) get their own articles and so should the Trolley Square.
Under "CCW Prohibited," they need a citation for Trolley Square mall's No Weapons policy. Try: http://johnrlott.tripod.com/uploaded_images/HPIM0240-724381.jpg noting policy/rule #10. Be sure to add that to the main article as well. If it wasn't for one off-duty LEO choosing to disobey the mall's policy, that BG would have had an "open season" on shoppers until on-duty LEOs showed up. However, if that mall had a "No Weapons Without a Permit" policy, other innocent people may have had a chance to defend their lives.
Also, I was unable to find a Wikipedia article re the Tacoma Mall shooting (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002641156_mallshooting23m.html) where a GG CCW'er tried to talk a BG active shooter into stopping and was shot in the chest w/an AK for his efforts. Not a good case for CCWs, but still deserving of a Wikipedia article.