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Yerman
03-22-2012, 6:44 PM
Hey everyone.

I just got an M-223 scope for my AR and I'd like to buy a 24" upper for it so I can keep my Eotech on my 16" and swap out the upper with the M-223 for long range shooting.

Here is the question...the M-223 has an elevation adjustment for a 55gr .223 round for 100-600 yards. Id like to use this adjustment to its fullest capability so id like to shoot a 55gr bullet. From my research, I see that a 1:9 twist is best for 55gr but I am having trouble finding a long barrel 1:9 twist.

Can you guys help out? I'm thinking longer is better so a 24" complete upper in 1:9 twist would be nice. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Munny$hot
03-22-2012, 7:04 PM
Go with Stag's 6H in 1/8 that will work great with 55gr as well as 62gr.

Yerman
03-22-2012, 7:10 PM
This is the chart I am going by...

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q173/bwurfel/6704c969.jpg

Yerman
03-22-2012, 7:23 PM
Go with Stag's 6H in 1/8 that will work great with 55gr as well as 62gr.

Thanks for the reply. Do you know if a bipod can go on a 6h?

baih777
03-22-2012, 7:31 PM
Harris bipod fits.

freonr22
03-22-2012, 7:40 PM
http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17554&cat=259&page=1

tpat663
03-22-2012, 8:31 PM
I looked everywhere for a 24" upper and finally just build my own. I got my barrel from blackholeweaponry. If your not in the position to build your own I would recommend the Stag, I love my Stag.

milotrain
03-22-2012, 9:05 PM
The white oak. No question.

russ69
03-22-2012, 9:14 PM
My heavy barrel Bushys shoot 55 grains pretty good (1/8 twist).

Yerman
03-22-2012, 9:54 PM
What about a bipod on the WOA?

Thanks for all replies. I'm liking the Stag as well...especially because I have a stag model 3 lower

milotrain
03-22-2012, 10:39 PM
It'll take standard handstops so I bet you could adapt a bipod to mount on the float tube. I don't really know why you would want one on an AR though. It really depends on what you want to do with it.

Yerman
03-23-2012, 7:20 AM
It'll take standard handstops so I bet you could adapt a bipod to mount on the float tube. I don't really know why you would want one on an AR though. It really depends on what you want to do with it.

Strictly for shooting tight groups on paper on a bench. I have a 16" upper with a Eotech when I want to play Rambo.


Thanks for all the comments guys...keep me comming

milotrain
03-23-2012, 11:46 AM
Bipods are a sort of 1/100 use item. There is almost always something better than a bipod for the purpose, and if you are on a bench then there is always something better than a bipod.

But the AR isn't really a very good bench gun. I know, you already have a lower but a good accurate 24" upper is $650. You could buy a more accurate bolt gun for that.

OutlawStar
03-23-2012, 11:55 AM
I had a 24" bull barrel from RRA: very solid and quality parts. I ordered it just after christmas and it took about 3 months to get to me though.

ExtremeX
03-23-2012, 12:08 PM
I got a stainless fluted 24" in 1:8 and I get fantastic results with 55gr rounds so it opens up more options for you. I would settle on 1:9 or 1:8, either one will do.

The Stag or RRA upper is a great option if you want to keep the cost down a little.

If I knew who made my barrel id buy another, it may have been Citadel...

I’ve been looking at blackholeweaponry as well; I plan on getting my next barrel from them for an 18” SPR style build.

White Oaks has been recommended a lot, but I never personally used one.

My original plan for my target rifle was to get a Stag upper, but when I came across the barrel I have now, I ended up building the upper myself and I’m glad I did. If I had to do it again, I would build it myself with the components I want.

GL on your search, my 24” target AR with a 4-16x50 optic gets more love than my carbine right now. Its very accurate and fun to shoot. What power is your M-223 Nikon?

GSwain
03-23-2012, 12:14 PM
I have a 24" dpms in stainless, and love it. Far more accurate than I am.

deadcoyote
03-23-2012, 12:18 PM
I had a 24" bull barrel from RRA: very solid and quality parts. I ordered it just after christmas and it took about 3 months to get to me though.

Rock River makes a good 24", just make sure you get the 1:8 as they sell it in a 1:12 as well for really light bullets.

tundraotto
03-23-2012, 12:28 PM
The white oak. No question.

+1million

tundraotto
03-23-2012, 12:29 PM
What about a bipod on the WOA?

Thanks for all replies. I'm liking the Stag as well...especially because I have a stag model 3 lower

the Varmints have bipod/sviwel studs

Spaceghost
03-23-2012, 12:33 PM
I have a Stag 6H and am very happy with it's performance. Using plinker ammo, actually factory seconds, it rocks.
Last time I took it out, I was on the 50 yard line because I took some new shooters with me. I got bored and started putting the 1 inch circles to repair shoot'n'see targets all over my target down range. I hit the one I was aiming for np. This is with a standard trigger, and a 3-9 scope. I can't wait to start some hand load development and get a better trigger.

Spaceghost
03-23-2012, 12:33 PM
I have a Stag 6H and am very happy with it's performance. Using plinker ammo, actually factory seconds, it rocks.
Last time I took it out, I was on the 50 yard line because I took some new shooters with me. I got bored and started putting the 1 inch circles to repair shoot'n'see targets all over my target down range. I hit the one I was aiming for np. This is with a standard trigger, and a 3-9 scope. I can't wait to start some hand load development and get a better trigger.

chicoredneck
03-23-2012, 12:34 PM
This is the chart I am going by...

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q173/bwurfel/6704c969.jpg

This chart is not accurate. I really wish people would stop posting it. Pick the type of bullet(s) you wish to shoot and go to the manufacturers website. They will list a reccomended twist rate. 1/9 will cover most bullets up to around 70grns, but not all. 1/8 will cover just about any bullet on the market for a magazine fed 223. A 1/12-1/14 is all you need for most 55gr and under 223 bullets, but not all. Even most 60gr bullets will stabalize fine in a 1/12. The 1/7 twist is really not needed unless you want to shoot tracers or 90+gr VLD bullets.