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Ratboy
03-21-2012, 2:31 PM
now I need sights as it came with none at all. I'm thinking Iron Sights to begin with and maybe a red dot later. I'm open to suggestions!

This is my first AR. I've been reading about them here and trying to learn before it arrived. I still have a lot to learn!

I'm going to try to not go too crazy with the modifications...

rplusplus
03-21-2012, 2:32 PM
:useless:

MBUS? Carry Handle?

I am one who likes to get used to irons before optics. YMMV.

Congrats.

Johnnyfres
03-21-2012, 2:33 PM
Congrats on the purchase. Time to go shoot it. Got any pics? we like pics :)

h0use
03-21-2012, 2:41 PM
nice rifle! post some pics!!

Ratboy
03-21-2012, 2:46 PM
ok, here's the EBR pr0n. ;)

Johnnyfres
03-21-2012, 2:52 PM
Sweet you got the good model.

I like the Aimpoint optics. Saving up for mine now.

wsmc27
03-21-2012, 2:57 PM
...

I am one who likes to get used to irons before optics. YMMV.

Congrats.

:iagree:

Learning/knowing irons is very very good idea.

OP, have FUN and be safe! :)

G60
03-21-2012, 3:26 PM
A set of Daniel Defense or LMT fixed sights would do you well.

Botach still has the LMT set for $70, and when I ordered from them a couple weeks ago they were in stock and at my door in 2 days.

You've got a gas block front sight mount, so magpuls will melt on it.

Ratboy
03-21-2012, 3:42 PM
^ that's good to know as magpuls were what I was looking at.

Thanks!

Ratboy
03-21-2012, 3:53 PM
ok, iron sights ordered!

J.D.Allen
03-21-2012, 4:49 PM
I read a very favorable article about this rifle a few days ago. The author basically put it through a three day torture test using it for training. He put quite a few rounds down the pipe all in a really dusty environment in the desert in AZ and didn't clean it the whole time. He said he didn't have a single malfunction, even though the rifle lacks a dust cover.

Apparently the reason why S&W can charge less for it is because they bought the machinery to actually manufacture a lot of the parts in house instead of purchasing them.

I'm really thinking seriously about getting one of these...

S470FM
03-21-2012, 5:18 PM
gun porn is always good. I'd also recommend shooting well with irons before using glass.

glock7
03-21-2012, 6:59 PM
Iron sights and a Red dot all a boy or girl needs....enjoy

mod8guy
03-21-2012, 8:33 PM
Even though you already ordered, these Diamondhead flip ups are awesome

Kinsel83
03-21-2012, 8:38 PM
Congrats on the purchase! Those are great shooters.

NYsteveZ
03-21-2012, 8:54 PM
Congrats! S&W makes some NICE ARs. You see what I own, but I had an M&P sport (cheapest model), and I was HIGHLY impressed. If anyone is thinking about one, I would say go for it. The dust cover and forward assist is not a big issue at all. The dust cover is nice to have in a jungle or sandbox, but for most environments, you will survive without one. The forward assist is nice to have, but again, anyone who was in the Marines will tell you-The way to clear a weapon jam is "TAP (the bottom of magazine) RACK (charging handle to rear) BANG (attempt to fire).
+1 for shooting iron sights first. Nice gun, enjoy!

Quinc
03-21-2012, 9:24 PM
You can get some good ideas from here:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=378883&highlight=quinc

clutchy
03-21-2012, 10:45 PM
I'll never understand why they put those stupid rail blocks on there instead of an FSB...

Speedpower
03-22-2012, 12:04 AM
A set of Daniel Defense or LMT fixed sights would do you well.

Botach still has the LMT set for $70, and when I ordered from them a couple weeks ago they were in stock and at my door in 2 days.

You've got a gas block front sight mount, so magpuls will melt on it.

The gas block is just for looks, none functional except for the picatinny rail as .22LR does not function on a DI system, so no gas there, it won't get hot enough to melt plastic!

Flowmini98
03-22-2012, 12:47 AM
Nice gun..ive been looking at this model myself

Jel
03-22-2012, 2:30 AM
I read a very favorable article about this rifle a few days ago. The author basically put it through a three day torture test using it for training. He put quite a few rounds down the pipe all in a really dusty environment in the desert in AZ and didn't clean it the whole time. He said he didn't have a single malfunction, even though the rifle lacks a dust cover.

Apparently the reason why S&W can charge less for it is because they bought the machinery to actually manufacture a lot of the parts in house instead of purchasing them.

I'm really thinking seriously about getting one of these...

I've heard good things about the Sport model, which I believe you are referring to.

However the OP has different model as shown by the pic he posted.

Ratboy
03-22-2012, 8:05 AM
Mine is called the M&P15ORC "Compliant" model I guess, couldn't find another name, just a bunch of numbers.

Looking forward to taking it out to Chabot. Maybe this weekend if I have time.

I need to order some .223/556 and some more magazines since it only came with one.

calif 15-22
03-22-2012, 8:16 AM
Mine is called the M&P15ORC "Compliant" model I guess, couldn't find another name, just a bunch of numbers.

Looking forward to taking it out to Chabot. Maybe this weekend if I have time.

I need to order some .223/556 and some more magazines since it only came with one.

Congrats on the purchase. I was looking at the M&P15T before buying my DDM4 V4. The M&P15 models are great guns. I went with Troy folding sights on mine as well as a Aimpoint Pro and am very happy with both add ons. I really like the Aimpoint Pro for its battery life and comes with mount included for $450.

I found some useful M&P info here when I was researching: (It's a M&P15 specific forum)
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p15-rifle/


For Mags you should look to either of these guys:
www.riflegear.com (Very quick shipping and really nice 10/20 Pmags)
or
www.44mag.com (I just bought some 10rnd black mags for the range from these guys)

For online ammo I found this site that list most of the major online ammo guys: (I've bought from Ammunition To Go and from Target Sports both good to deal with)

http://www.topammunitionsites.com/

Good luck and be safe . . .

J.D.Allen
03-22-2012, 8:19 AM
I've heard good things about the Sport model, which I believe you are referring to.

However the OP has different model as shown by the pic he posted.

You are correct, the one he posted has a dust cover and forward assist. I didn't notice that. Anyway I think the quality would still be the same...

wsmc27
03-22-2012, 12:05 PM
The gas block is just for looks, none functional except for the picatinny rail as .22LR does not function on a DI system, so no gas there, it won't get hot enough to melt plastic!

:confused::confused:

What does .22LR have to do with it?

OP didn't get a S&W 15-22, so maybe it's a real DI with gas?

Jel
03-23-2012, 12:39 AM
The gas block is just for looks, none functional except for the picatinny rail as .22LR does not function on a DI system, so no gas there, it won't get hot enough to melt plastic!

What are you talking about? His is a 5.56 rifle, not a .22LR.

Jel
03-23-2012, 12:42 AM
Mine is called the M&P15ORC "Compliant" model I guess, couldn't find another name, just a bunch of numbers.

Looking forward to taking it out to Chabot. Maybe this weekend if I have time.

I need to order some .223/556 and some more magazines since it only came with one.

You got the C right...it stands for Compliant. The OR stands for Optics Ready.

I'm hoping to be out at Chabot as well...hopefully on the day that has less rain. I just picked up the S&W M&P OR Upper and put it on my S&W lower that has been sitting for a couple years. Now I have a complete rifle.

Ratboy
03-27-2012, 10:55 AM
Thank you for all the advice and suggestions! I picked up some CA compliant magazines and was hoping to go out this weekend but... well, botach dropped the ball and after six days I've been told that the sights I ordered are on backorder... ugh. It would have been nice to know that the day I ordered them!

My local store has nothing that for me either. I'm trying to be patient.

knkali
03-27-2012, 4:07 PM
Congrats Ratboy, I bought a S&W MP 15 optics ready too.

I went straight for the red dot Aimpoint 4MOA H1.

I'll be riding your coat tails Ratboy since this AR is a new game to me too. I have 7 more days till PU

Zartan
03-27-2012, 5:47 PM
Troy flips!

Ratboy
04-22-2012, 7:56 PM
well, finally got some sights on it and picked up some magazines and an assortment of ammo to see what works and what, if any, doesn't.

Then life got in the way and I have not had a chance to go to Chabot. I don't want to go to an indoor range so it's sitting here getting drool on it.

I picked up some mbus for it. They don't match but that's ok, maybe I'll change the furniture.

I have broken it down a few times and familiarized myself with it fairly well.

I have now been looking at how to properly mount a 2-Point on it. I bought a 1-2 point magpul for it but damn, I cannot break that castle nut to put on the 1 point mount. So now I'm looking for a front mount since it has one on the stock. For me a 2 point is fine. I just need a way to carry it comfortably when I go take a class with it.

Ratboy
04-22-2012, 7:56 PM
double post.

smittty
04-22-2012, 8:37 PM
now I need sights as it came with none at all. I'm thinking Iron Sights to begin with and maybe a red dot later. I'm open to suggestions!

This is my first AR. I've been reading about them here and trying to learn before it arrived. I still have a lot to learn!

I'm going to try to not go too crazy with the modifications...

Congrats!

I suggest bypassing the iron sight stag and put that money towards a better optical sight.

You don't need buis's. Trust me!

And you don't need QD mounts for your opticial sight.

Do your homework before buying a red dot or other optical sight. Few extra $$ makes a difference.

A very good mid price optic is the Burris AR332. It would fit perfectly on your M&P rifle.

Good luck,

Agent 0range
04-22-2012, 9:21 PM
Congrats!

I suggest bypassing the iron sight stag and put that money towards a better optical sight.

You don't need buis's. Trust me!



I couldn't disagree more. What happens if the optic goes down? These things can break, batteries will die, etc...then what? That's why you have BACK UP iron sights. Every shooter should be proficient with iron sights prior to using any type of optics. I do, however, agree that a little extra money should be spent on good optics like a Trijicon, Eotech, Aimpoint or even a PA. But the time it takes to save that money up is a good time to practice with irons.

MrExel17
04-22-2012, 9:21 PM
Looks good , congrats!

Agent 0range
04-22-2012, 9:23 PM
Oh, and OP...how about some new pics with your sights?:drool5:

NorCalK9.com
04-22-2012, 10:46 PM
Nice rifle.
I learned to use irons before anything else, but with that said... Let me ask you something. If youre gonna teach your kid to drive and you own both a manual and a automatic car, which are you gonna start him/her on?
That should be the same with a rifle. Its easier to learn all the trigger pull, stance, stop flinching, etc etc first with a red dot/scope and then learn iron sights after you master all the rest! Thats my .02.. Good luck op

Jel
04-23-2012, 12:19 AM
Nice rifle.
I learned to use irons before anything else, but with that said... Let me ask you something. If youre gonna teach your kid to drive and you own both a manual and a automatic car, which are you gonna start him/her on?
That should be the same with a rifle. Its easier to learn all the trigger pull, stance, stop flinching, etc etc first with a red dot/scope and then learn iron sights after you master all the rest! Thats my .02.. Good luck op

Like most of the other posters, I also agree with learning the basics first with the basics being iron sights.

I like your analogy, however, I am reversed in its thinking.

Teach someone to drive stick. Can that person now also drive automatic? Most likely yes. Teach someone automatic. Can that person now also drive stick? Mostly likely no.

The same can't be said for the other way around.

Either way, OP, learn both and get proficient with both.

Congrats again on the new AR.

p2rider426
04-23-2012, 7:49 AM
:useless:



I am one who likes to get used to irons before optics. YMMV.

Congrats.

I pulled the scope off my 10-22 and AR to master the irons. Really glad I did too

NorCalK9.com
04-23-2012, 11:51 AM
@p2rider
And was it easy to learn?
if the mods here werent so ummm how do you say this without getting banned? Afraid of a few cuss words theres a video that gives a great breakdown on irons vs reddot/scope for noobs. Im gonna pm it to op.

p2rider426
04-23-2012, 12:03 PM
@p2rider
And was it easy to learn?
if the mods here werent so ummm how do you say this without getting banned? Afraid of a few cuss words theres a video that gives a great breakdown on irons vs reddot/scope for noobs. Im gonna pm it to op.

Think you could PM it to me too?

Well it was pretty easy to get decent on the irons with my AR, but it is proving to be difficult to master. My goal is to be able to hit a squirrel-sized object within 100 yards off-hand with irons first shot, nearly every time. I can do it about every other shot, usually using the previous shot kinda like a tracer, where I see where it hits and correct from the miss. I have been shooting my AR with irons only from day 1, but my 10/22 came with a scope and it recently failed on me, so I pulled it off and I realized I couldn't shoot with the irons on it for ****. So back to square one with the rifle too.

Agent 0range
04-23-2012, 1:51 PM
Nice rifle.
I learned to use irons before anything else, but with that said... Let me ask you something. If youre gonna teach your kid to drive and you own both a manual and a automatic car, which are you gonna start him/her on?
That should be the same with a rifle. Its easier to learn all the trigger pull, stance, stop flinching, etc etc first with a red dot/scope and then learn iron sights after you master all the rest! Thats my .02.. Good luck op

Heh! I actually bought an '85 Mazda 626 (manual) from my uncle for $500 when I was 15. I insisted on learning how to drive that rather than my mom's automatic (much to my father's dismay). I grew up shooing irons starting at a young age and it paid off when I joined the Marines. I was one of two experts graduating boot camp. Too bad I was a mortar man and not a sniper! Maybe I'm just old school though! To each his own.

NorCalK9.com
04-23-2012, 11:05 PM
@agentorange
Thats just too cool bud. Most people cant be that cool lol. Iron sights are easy, and as I said before thats how I learned as well. But its still easier to learn all the complicated stuff and once its mastered then learn the easy iron sights.