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emy
03-19-2012, 1:09 AM
Anybody familiar with the UK straight pull AR in UK. Saw it on youtube. If I build a straight pull AR do I need a BB, Featureless , or will it be classified like a bolt gun with mag?

Freagan
03-19-2012, 1:27 AM
Here you go:
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norcalscot
03-19-2012, 3:45 PM
Interesting.

The UK ban on semi-automatic rifles with calibers larger than .22LR has lead to some rifles that seem strange to our eyes. Try firing that thing rapidly while standing up and you'd have problems I would imagine....

Thanks for sharing!

TNP'R
03-19-2012, 3:51 PM
Yeah I was checking out straight pull AR's on youtube a few weeks back. Crazy what they have to put up with.

Bhobbs
03-19-2012, 3:53 PM
Yeah I was checking out straight pull AR's on youtube a few weeks back. Crazy what they have to put up with.

It may be crazy but they still get +10 round mags.

bloodhawke83
03-19-2012, 3:54 PM
Where did they get the upper receiver? I want one NOW!!!.

bohoki
03-19-2012, 3:58 PM
definetly no bump firing that

need a left side charger that way he wouldn't have to shift his grip

S470FM
03-19-2012, 4:07 PM
lame.

m16
03-19-2012, 4:12 PM
lame.

Nope. Not lame at all.

If I lived there and that's what I could legally own, you bet your *** I would have one.

romeo26
03-19-2012, 4:19 PM
wouldn't that be a bolt action ar?

I sort of want one!

TNP'R
03-19-2012, 4:22 PM
It may be crazy but they still get +10 round mags.

I get to have +10 mags.:p

glocklover
03-19-2012, 4:22 PM
lame.

:rolleyes:

American's in free states say the same thing about bullet buttons and grip wraps.

I've been thinking about doing a build like this, instead of a bolt gun.

An AR with a left side charging handle, no DI tube. I wonder if anyone has done one, and runs it with detachable mags.

AK all day
03-19-2012, 4:22 PM
Yet still have +10 mags and you can actually REMOVE the mag! Haha but that does suck, pretty much a bolt action AR lookalike

glocklover
03-19-2012, 4:23 PM
I get to have +10 mags.:p

dude, you have no say, you "out of state" goober!!!:43:

glocklover
03-19-2012, 4:25 PM
Yet still have +10 mags and you can actually REMOVE the mag! Haha but that does suck, pretty much a bolt action AR lookalike

I'd rather have that, than to only beable to have a bolt action.

stix213
03-19-2012, 5:26 PM
I seen an AK like that in the private party sales on this site! All the evil features you want, no limit to mag capacity (as long as you already gotz em), and no bullet button.

S470FM
03-19-2012, 5:59 PM
makes me thankful to live in California, I wouldn't want to own a bolt action AR. Interesting point, but it's because of the UK that we have the 2nd amendment. I may get a lot of flak for this, but I'm thankful I live in CA

Capybara
03-19-2012, 6:16 PM
Just goes to show, it's all relative. A lot of people in other countries where all private firearms possession is illegal would look at that clip and say, "wow, these are just citizens shooting their own rifle? Amazing." It's all relative.

As much as our California gun laws are lame, 10 round mags and BBs are not that bad in the majority of scenarios. Yes, restrictive, arbitrary and unconstitutional, but our situation looks pretty good if you compare us to the U.K. or Australia and our situation looks amazingly free compared to the countries where all firearms are outlawed.

I hope that people remember this when they go to the polls in November, I hope that they vote for ANYONE other than Obama. Santorum and Romney are questionable on gun rights but I think that Obama is worse.

TNP'R
03-19-2012, 6:20 PM
Just goes to show, it's all relative. A lot of people in other countries where all private firearms possession is illegal would look at that clip and say, "wow, these are just citizens shooting their own rifle? Amazing." It's all relative.

As much as our California gun laws are lame, 10 round mags and BBs are not that bad in the majority of scenarios. Yes, restrictive, arbitrary and unconstitutional, but our situation looks pretty good if you compare us to the U.K. or Australia and our situation looks amazingly free compared to the countries where all firearms are outlawed.

I hope that people remember this when they go to the polls in November, I hope that they vote for ANYONE other than Obama. Santorum and Romney are questionable on gun rights but I think that Obama is worse.

A lot of people see people shooting their guns and say Wow they are shooting guns? They shouldn't be allowed to shoot them. If you go to forums that's not firearm based and talk to europeans a lot of them are strongly anti gun. Especially when there's been a school shooting or something they come out of the wood work to bash us for our gun ownership.

S470FM
03-19-2012, 6:21 PM
well said. take Mexico for example, with a few rare exceptions, guns are banned--look at the drug war. unarmed people are being slaughtered.

Prc329
03-19-2012, 6:28 PM
Interesting, looks to me like its basically an AR15 with no gas tube and a side charging upper.

Colt-45
03-19-2012, 6:29 PM
How about the TAC 21 chassis?

http://mdttac.com/img/img01.jpg

http://mdttac.com/products.html

Not my cup of tea but bolt action.

Capybara
03-19-2012, 7:27 PM
I know what you mean. I am a huge fan of Top Gear and I work for a Euro-based company. I do find it funny how Europeans regard us and our attitude about guns, they think that we are all Cowboys, obsessed with violence, prudes with gun fetishes. But you also have to realize that they are going on their third and fourth generations of post WWII populations over there who live in largely socialist societies, where highly restrictive gun laws have been in place for generations. When it is all that you have known for your whole life, you don't know any better.

Their version of freedom is quite different than ours, they live in nanny states where the government tells you what to do more than here and regulates everything, which is sadly what we, especially in California, are becoming.

A lot of people see people shooting their guns and say Wow they are shooting guns? They shouldn't be allowed to shoot them. If you go to forums that's not firearm based and talk to europeans a lot of them are strongly anti gun. Especially when there's been a school shooting or something they come out of the wood work to bash us for our gun ownership.

Colt-45
03-19-2012, 11:17 PM
I know what you mean. I am a huge fan of Top Gear and I work for a Euro-based company. I do find it funny how Europeans regard us and our attitude about guns, they think that we are all Cowboys, obsessed with violence, prudes with gun fetishes. But you also have to realize that they are going on their third and fourth generations of post WWII populations over there who live in largely socialist societies, where highly restrictive gun laws have been in place for generations. When it is all that you have known for your whole life, you don't know any better.


This is something I've thought about before. Once firearms are banned in a society it's hard for them to be able to trust themselves with firearms again. We know better than that but I can see how it might be a scary thing for a lot of people to accept. We should not allow for it to get that bad here in CA.

TNP'R
03-19-2012, 11:21 PM
This is something I've thought about before. Once firearms are banned in a society it's hard for them to be able to trust themselves with firearms again. We know better than that but I can see how it might be a scary thing for a lot of people to accept. We should not allow for it to get that bad here in CA.

Shouldn't allow it any where in the U.S firearms are a part of our culture and we can't let that part of our culture fade.

arsilva32
03-20-2012, 12:40 AM
Nope. Not lame at all.

If I lived there and that's what I could legally own, you bet your *** I would have one.



oh no not lame at all , im totally happy with these restrictive laws and were heading the same direction as them. wont that be great?

Moonshine
03-20-2012, 8:31 PM
As much as I dislike the gun laws in California you have to admit it is a beautiful state... In just a short motorcycle ride I can be at lake Tahoe, in Yosemite national park, on highway 1 headed down along the ocean, in napa valley tasting world class wines, or sight seeing in San Francisco... And thats just short trips ill save my longer rides into socal for anothe post heh! I'd be hard pressed to leave this state after growing up in a rural red state.

TNP'R
03-20-2012, 8:40 PM
As much as I dislike the gun laws in California you have to admit it is a beautiful state... In just a short motorcycle ride I can be at lake Tahoe, in Yosemite national park, on highway 1 headed down along the ocean, in napa valley tasting world class wines, or sight seeing in San Francisco... And thats just short trips ill save my longer rides into socal for anothe post heh! I'd be hard pressed to leave this state after growing up in a rural red state.

Meh been there done that, I'll take less gun laws over sight seeing any day.CA is a cool place to visit but not to live.

Intimid8tor
03-20-2012, 8:55 PM
I know what you mean. I am a huge fan of Top Gear and I work for a Euro-based company. I do find it funny how Europeans regard us and our attitude about guns, they think that we are all Cowboys, obsessed with violence, prudes with gun fetishes. But you also have to realize that they are going on their third and fourth generations of post WWII populations over there who live in largely socialist societies, where highly restrictive gun laws have been in place for generations. When it is all that you have known for your whole life, you don't know any better.

Their version of freedom is quite different than ours, they live in nanny states where the government tells you what to do more than here and regulates everything, which is sadly what we, especially in California, are becoming.

I've been catching up on top gear lately and it is funny how they refer to Americans. The did give us props for success in WWII but their view is not a positive one. Though I do know Jeremy Clarkson likes guns.

Glad to see ingenuity alive and well so people there can own something.

bob7122
03-20-2012, 9:05 PM
strangely, i like that ...

five.five-six
03-20-2012, 10:49 PM
I am dreaming of building one.... got to get it past wifey, but I bet I will have one within a year or 2

rw7nkHAGDL8

probably one of the least lame rifles on the planet

emy
03-21-2012, 12:15 AM
where does the straight pull AR fall under CA law?

scotty99
03-21-2012, 12:41 AM
It's not semi-auto so the AWB does not apply. Keep it to a legal OAL and you can have all the evil features you want.

Quiet
03-21-2012, 1:06 AM
Anyone know why these "bolt-action" rifles can't be imported into the USA?

5.56x45mm SA-80 (L-98A1) Cadet rifle
http://www.historyofwar.org/Pictures/L98A1_cadet_rifle.jpg

m16
03-21-2012, 1:06 AM
I am dreaming of building one.... got to get it past wifey, but I bet I will have one within a year or 2

rw7nkHAGDL8

probably one of the least lame rifles on the planet

That is pretty slick how he cycles that thing.

mag360
03-21-2012, 2:15 AM
I wish it was possible to design a gun where the first trigger pull chambers a rounnd, the next fires it, the next chambers a round. So it is now essentially a bolt action with your index finger. What do you think? 2 pulls per shot.

five.five-six
03-21-2012, 1:56 PM
That is pretty slick how he cycles that thing.


what's even sicker, is that that gun will do this:

http://accurateshooter.net/GOTW/eliseotargx320.jpg