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03-17-2012, 12:04 PM
i just got this from uncle. was wondering if i should re blue or not seems scrubbed.. thanks

Howie44
03-17-2012, 12:09 PM
i just got this from uncle. was wondering if i should re blue or not seems scrubbed.. thanks

Please sell it to me before you have it re blued. I will give it a good home next to my other M39's, and will give you what it is worth.

af240z
03-17-2012, 12:58 PM
or me. i live closer :) haha

Crunch130
03-17-2012, 1:03 PM
Hold off on that decision until you post some pix.

af240z
03-17-2012, 1:16 PM
IMO, unless ALL the bluing is gone... I'd leave it alone.

mosinnagantm9130
03-17-2012, 1:40 PM
IMO, unless ALL the bluing is gone... I'd leave it alone.

Leave it alone even then, it's a Civil Guard rifle.

Fate
03-17-2012, 1:46 PM
PLEASE GO BUBBA A REFURB MOSIN INSTEAD. Leave the poor Civil Guard rifle alone that defended Finland from Russia, Germany and Britain during WWII. It earned its battle scars in the trenches. Please don't dishonor that with a reblue.

Finland stands alone.

af240z
03-17-2012, 2:10 PM
PLEASE GO BUBBA A REFURB MOSIN INSTEAD. Leave the poor Civil Guard rifle alone that defended Finland from Russia, Germany and Britain during WWII. It earned its battle scars in the trenches. Please don't dishonor that with a reblue.

Finland stands alone.
Well, technically, Russia and Britain... Finland allied itself with Germany for most of the war, and allowed German troops to use Finland as a staging point... and when USSR strong-armed them to expel Germans from Lapland after their invasion of Finland in 1944.

I guess they technically fought Germans... but it wasn't defensive. It was more like "get out of our country or USSR will make our lives miserable"

glennsche
03-17-2012, 3:52 PM
PLEASE GO BUBBA A REFURB MOSIN INSTEAD. Leave the poor Civil Guard rifle alone that defended Finland from Russia, Germany and Britain during WWII. It earned its battle scars in the trenches. Please don't dishonor that with a reblue.

Finland stands alone.

häh?

finland wasnt alone, she was allied with the axis.

and when did the finns ever fight the british? i thought the brits even aided the finns against the soviets during the first phase of the winter war.

while i can see that as being co-belligerents against the USSR, the Finns would at some point have been technically at war with Britain, they didnt to my knowledge ever fight one another, since the units the Finns served in were in the east.

Fate
03-17-2012, 5:16 PM
häh?

finland wasnt alone, she was allied with the axis.

and when did the finns ever fight the british? i thought the brits even aided the finns against the soviets during the first phase of the winter war.

while i can see that as being co-belligerents against the USSR, the Finns would at some point have been technically at war with Britain, they didnt to my knowledge ever fight one another, since the units the Finns served in were in the east.

"Finland stands alone" is a famous quote.

Finland WAS alone during the Winter War. No allies came to her aid. F.D.R. made nice speeches about how long they held out vs. Russia, but never offered aid.

Mannerheim and Finland signed some pacts with Nazi Germany only because it was an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation. The threat from Russia was all Finland was concerned about.

Britain declared war on Finland in 1942. Was there actual combat between the nations? No...but the threat was there. Shipping lanes were definitely impacted and Finland suffered from a British blockade, IIRC.

After the Continuation War fought to a stalemate with Russia, Finland fought the remaining Nazis to get them out of Finland.

Flyin Brian
03-17-2012, 6:03 PM
i just got this from uncle. was wondering if i should re blue or not seems scrubbed.. thanks

...OK now that we got all that out of the way, back to the original item of interest:

Please post up some pictures of the barrel shank so we can see what this rifle is. If it has "Sk.Y." on it, it would be either a 28-30 or an M-39, both very nice rifles and usually great shooters. What year is it? What is the "b" for?

af240z
03-17-2012, 7:06 PM
I think he means B barrel:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM39.htm

Flyin Brian
03-17-2012, 7:48 PM
I think he means B barrel:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM39.htm

Well, since he mentioned "SKY" then it can't be a B barrel.

Bad Reputation
03-17-2012, 10:25 PM
ok i dunno why i said "b" but it is a sky... all the blueing is gone tho. here are some pics
but from what i gather.. i should just leave it alone??? thanks for all ur input.. hope the pics work...

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43446%3Enu%3D3235%3E5%3C3%3E88%3B%3E WSNRCG%3D35%3C%3B%3B%3B88%3A2326nu0mrj
http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43436%3Enu%3D3235%3E5%3C3%3E88%3B%3E WSNRCG%3D35%3C%3B%3B%3B9657326nu0mrj
http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43443%3Enu%3D3235%3E5%3C3%3E88%3B%3E WSNRCG%3D35%3C%3B%3B%3B88%3A3326nu0mrj
http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43435%3Enu%3D3235%3E5%3C3%3E88%3B%3E WSNRCG%3D35%3C%3B%3B%3B9658326nu0mrj
http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43352%3Enu%3D3235%3E5%3C3%3E88%3B%3E WSNRCG%3D35%3C%3B%3B%3B88%3A4326nu0mrj

Fate
03-17-2012, 10:30 PM
Nice looking Civil Guard M39. Love the figuring on the stock.

Antifreeze was used on rifles in the snow to keep them functioning. Unfortunately, it also took off the bluing.

I'm sure if she doesn't speak to you a more appreciative buyer would be easy to find.

mosinnagantm9130
03-17-2012, 10:30 PM
You have a civil guard contract M39, one of roughly 10,000 produced. This is not your typical big 5 refurb 91/30, it is much more uncommon.

I can't quite make out the year, but it should be a 42, 43, or 44.

It is worth much more as it sits right now, then if you re-blued it. I'd leave it be, just keep it oiled and rust free.

mosinnagantm9130
03-17-2012, 10:32 PM
To add: As fate said, it would be easy to find a buyer for this rifle, if you wanted to sell. M39's sell fast, non-refurb M39s faster, and Sk.Y M39s even faster still :D

Fate
03-17-2012, 10:38 PM
To put the quantities made into perspective, the US made ~230,000 Rock-Ola M1 Carbines. These are one of the rarest USGI carbines out there and carry a huge premium. They outnumber civil guard M39s 23-1.

Once you "pretty it up" it's value plummets. Hard.

safewaysecurity
03-17-2012, 11:46 PM
I had an opportunity to buy one a few months back in PRISTINE condition. I quibbled over $25.00 and once I had more money just a few days after I initially wanted to buy it the seller had already sold the rifle. I kick myself in the *** to this day for not having just grabbed it.

mosinnagantm9130
03-18-2012, 1:25 AM
I had an opportunity to buy one a few months back in PRISTINE condition. I quibbled over $25.00 and once I had more money just a few days after I initially wanted to buy it the seller had already sold the rifle. I kick myself in the *** to this day for not having just grabbed it.

Every gunnie has those moments...mine was if I should pay $79 to buy a 1944 Tula M44.... To this day, I still haven't found another. I found a 43 Izhevsk, but still no 44 Tula :(