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kauaibuilt
03-17-2012, 11:02 AM
Anyone with any experience with these? For those who move a lot or rent, what do you use for storage?

I want something more secure then what I have now but I move every few years and tend to rent anything from apts, condos, or houses and never really know what floor I'll be on. Once I ETS (for you military types) I can get a real safe but for now...

Right now Im leaning towards the Stack-On 10-gun double-door cabinet (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202996381/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=202996381&storeId=10051). Its CA DOJ security rated, but not fireproof, and will hold more than I need it to right now (they have a 16-gun version but not locally and shipping basically doubles its price).

http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_222865_999_01?rgn=0,0,1015,1497&scl=3.9394736842105265&fmt=jpeg&id=0Q6F_kNMpVwpCxL_kscaNM

Current arsenal:
3 AR's (maybe a 4th on the way)
1 scoped rifle
4 pistols
About 11k in ammo (22lr, 5.56, 9mm, .40)

X231
03-17-2012, 11:55 AM
I think it's very considerate that you would put all your guns in a nice box like that so the thief could cart it all out in one trip :D But seriously, I was burglarized years ago and had my guns stolen out of a "security cabinet" similar to the one you're looking at. It did take some time for them to pry open the door but they managed. If I had the cabinet bolted to the closet wall they MAY have not been able to open it. So if you don't want to bolt it to the floor at least bolt it to the wall and patch the wall when you move. I would like to have another security cabinet or cheap safe to store ammo in but my guns all go in a real safe. Check Dick's they usually have a cheap safe for around $350. On the other hand anything is better than nothing.

Whiterabbit
03-17-2012, 9:49 PM
I LOVE my stack on. I woodwork alot in my shop and I hate getting dust on some things. Makes a great cabinet to keep a few powders, all my gun cases, and any other accessories dust free and right next to my real safe. I'd hate to part with it. seriously.

I'm not all hardcore like many of the vocal people on this forum, but being frugal and not requiring capacity, I bought the Lowes special on sale. What was it, $350? $300? $400? somewhere in there. Anyways, for MY needs it is a great safe. Heavy enough to be cumbersome and difficult to steal (compared to stack on), easily bolts to the floor (when available), reasonable security. But it's not so heavy and bulky to make it difficult to 3-man lift wherever you want it to be. (after you take the guns and 11k rounds of ammo out!)

After you fill it with 11k rounds of ammo, that sucker isn't going anywhere for a casual thief.

You'll have plenty of room for all your guns. After maybe 2 more pistols it'll start to get crowded, after 1-2 more long guns it'll start to get crowded. But that's assuming you arrange everything for easy access. Cram them in there using gunsocks, you can fit WAY more than you've got.

Twystd1
03-17-2012, 9:54 PM
Those safes will keep out a thief without any tools.
Those boxes work great to keep family and friends out of your stuff.

BUT...
For an experienced thief... Not so much.
If he can get a crowbar or something to seriously pry on the doors.
He could be in the safe in as little as 30 seconds. I have done it myself in about a minute with a framing hammer and a flat iron
Thats what ya get when your kid locks a cat in the safe and looses the key..... (Not mine)

OH... And did I say.....don't loose your keys...........................................

And unless you have a grip of rim fire .22
I don't think you will get close to getting 11K rounds of centerfire ammo in that steel box.
Stack up your ammo boxes and give them a measure. You should be able to figure the cubic feet of room you need before you buy the safe.

Personaly. I like those for ammo and powder storage. And they are crap load better than setting your guns in a closet.
Twystd1

five.five-six
03-17-2012, 9:58 PM
how do you open it with one of these? I don't want my wife to get in my safe :eek:

http://www.bayareabags.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Dual-Voltage-Ceramic-Hair-Flat-Iron-TP30-.jpg

kauaibuilt
03-17-2012, 10:19 PM
11k rounds = 3k 9mm, 1k .40 (1k waiting on jack ross), 1.5k 5.56 (3k on brownells backorder), and 2-3k 22lr.

Thanks for the input guys. I might have to hit up lowes, home depot, and costco for a smaller (read: lighter) safe for the firearms but then maybe get this cabinet (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202996398/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=202996398&storeId=10051) for ammo, cleaning supplies, and the like.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/249/249941.jpg

mjmagee67
03-18-2012, 8:32 AM
My thoughts are it is better than just putting the guns in a closet. I have one, I bolted it to the wall so it won't walk off. I want to get a "real" safe soon. I live in a two story house and need to make some adjustments in the garage--then I will get to nice fire safe with NO electronic lock. But in the interim it is just what the do ordered.

e-zee
03-18-2012, 8:45 AM
I have one, I like it for what it is, but like others have said, anybody can break it open with a few tools. I plan on getting a safe soon and will keep my stack-on cabinet for storing other stuff.

oldrifle
03-18-2012, 10:34 AM
I have the 16 gun stack-on and it holds all my stuff nicely (for now). It's fairly secure. I'm not particularly worried about thieves breaking in where I live so it's a good solution for now. Because I'm up a flight of stairs, and because I plan on moving within the year a big heavy safe just wasn't an option.

kauaibuilt
03-18-2012, 3:51 PM
See, these last 3 posts is where Im leaning right now. Im not that worried about a break in - 4 houses on the same plot - the families all know and watch out for each other. Its better then having it in cases (hard or soft) and in the closet. Since I move so often its easy to take along with me and not have to rely on "others" to come in and move it for me and see whats in it. BUT its not as secure - however once I get settled I can keep it for supplies, ammo, etc to keep my kids hands off them and get a real safe for the fun stuff....


AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!

Although someone on another forum mentioned the snapsafe - it actually looks like a viable alternative.
http://www.snapsafe.com/titansafe.php

ptroxx
03-18-2012, 4:10 PM
THis is my sentry 14 gun safe I just got... Payed 350 at Home depot... its about 175 lbs and has a combo 3 pin lock....and it fits in my bedroom closet .
It has one shelf, but there is room for anothe rone to be added.. Im waiting on my shelf clips now so i can add another shelf

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2dd36b3127ccefff7df6e44a000000030O10AcNmTJk1ZNm QPbz4M/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D1/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/