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morthrane
03-15-2012, 2:41 PM
So I got an ACOG over a month ago, but haven't been able to mount it because the TWS dustcover rail I ordered a month ago is still backordered. Every week the status is "shipping next week". :facepalm: So annoyed I'd like to just cancel it all completely, but I've waited too long and can't return the ACOG now. (pretty sad, since the TWS rail was one of the reasons I bought the S308 in the first place...)

That said... suggestions for picatinny rail mounts-- other than the unobtanium TWS dustcover rail-- that are actually IN STOCK?

zfields
03-15-2012, 2:49 PM
Have you checked over vendors for TWS, I believe brownells sells them also.

zfields
03-15-2012, 2:50 PM
Also, there is a new company putting out similar mounts, I believe parabellum arms is the name.

morthrane
03-15-2012, 2:51 PM
A couple weeks back I contacted TWS directly about the backorder, and they confirmed. Kinda sucks, as the vendor has already charged my visa for the full pop. (is that even legal?)

zfields
03-15-2012, 2:53 PM
A couple weeks back I contacted TWS directly about the backorder, and they confirmed. Kinda sucks, as the vendor has already charged my visa for the full pop. (is that even legal?)

Huh, a friend was able to get one from a local vendor here a few weeks ago. I'll see if he has any instock.

BretByron
03-15-2012, 3:18 PM
http://armsofamerica.com/akscopemountsscopes.aspx
Sorry, I was thinking of something else.

http://dpharms.com/product_info.php?products_id=1000


Here is the one I have wich lines up w/ the front quad rail making a nice even flat top
http://dpharms.com/products/ak-47_accessories/beryl_style_scope_mount.html

SURVIVOR619
03-15-2012, 4:52 PM
I have that same one referred to by BretByron... Got mine from Carolina Shooters Supply for $35

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j362/SURVIVOR619/DSCN0069.jpg

atakacorp
03-15-2012, 4:57 PM
I have one I can sell you PM me if you are interested,Hell ,just pay for shipping, anything for my CG brother:)

atakacorp
03-15-2012, 5:02 PM
I have that same one referred to by BretByron... Got mine from Carolina Shooters Supply for $35

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j362/SURVIVOR619/DSCN0069.jpg

Nice, but donít you think scope is a little bit high?:43:

SURVIVOR619
03-15-2012, 5:08 PM
I get a good cheek weld, plus I can still use my irons...

morthrane
03-15-2012, 5:12 PM
http://dpharms.com/product_info.php?products_id=1000


Amusingly enough that part is listed as not available/in-stock. Apropos for this thread. :)

I have one I can sell you PM me if you are interested,Hell ,just pay for shipping, anything for my CG brother:)

gen 1 or gen 2, and is it the one specifically for the S308 ? I don't think the leaf sight I got will work with a gen 1.

atakacorp
03-15-2012, 5:21 PM
Man, why we all think that Russians that made AK ,scopes and red dots for this rifle don’t know s&%t, why we, myself included, trying to invent a bicycle again, I wasted so much time and money for all this nonsense ,mounts ,rails, rings cheekweilds and at the end I just went back to Russian(Belorussian) POSP,PSO,Rakurs,Obzor scopes, very good glass and you can use the irons too.

atakacorp
03-15-2012, 5:25 PM
Amusingly enough that part is listed as not available/in-stock. Apropos for this thread. :)



gen 1 or gen 2, and is it the one specifically for the S308 ? I don't think the leaf sight I got will work with a gen 1.

Dude,I'll sent you a pic ,I bought it long time ago for my AK,man save your money and get Russian red dot or scope from Kalinka,all this crap won't wark,cannt hold the zerro:43:
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/SAIGANOV/SGL3161PolyFolderPOSP4x24.jpg
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/SAIGANOV/SGL3144-SGL3161PKALeft.jpg
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/Saiga12/6.jpg

FiveSeven
03-15-2012, 5:37 PM
I have that same one referred to by BretByron... Got mine from Carolina Shooters Supply for $35


I bet after every time you want to clean your rifle and unscrew that rear screw over and over till it's permanently loose you'll trow that mount away.
+ The scope is to big and to high. Proper cheek support is important with any scoped rifle and there's' no way you get get proper cheek weld unless you are Jay Leno...... wait, that would be chin weld.

atakacorp
03-15-2012, 5:55 PM
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/Saiga12/IMG_6006.jpg
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/Saiga12/IMG_6005.jpg
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/Saiga12/IMG_6004.jpg
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/Saiga12/IMG_6002.jpg

Here ya go!!

If you want to go this way,please look at these ,MOLOT is the best IMO

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/AK_Siderails_BP02_NPZ_Molot_KV04-01.jpg
KVAR is good but heavier

stix213
03-15-2012, 6:15 PM
I just use the K-var side mount on mine. Haven't had any issues.

BretByron
03-15-2012, 7:50 PM
[QUOTE=morthrane;8225319]Amusingly enough that part is listed as not available/in-stock. Apropos for this thread. :)
Whoa! that page did not look like that earlier today:eek: sorry

NorCalK9.com
03-15-2012, 8:06 PM
I got the tws and I love the darn thing. It sits on my bulgy74 cant say anything as to how well its gonna hold up over time but my aimpoint sits nice n low with it.
let me know how the one on the s308 works out for you when you get it.

zfields
03-15-2012, 8:28 PM
NorCal,

You running the gen 1 or gen 2?

vintagedude88
03-15-2012, 8:42 PM
OP have you given much thought for the Midwest side rail?

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=433

Here's a review of it.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=502422&highlight=midwest

unusedusername
03-15-2012, 8:45 PM
Another option:

http://www.rsregulate.com/products.php

morthrane
03-16-2012, 12:52 AM
OP have you given much thought for the Midwest side rail?

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=433


Looks nice, too bad it says out of stock. :facepalm:

NorCalK9.com
03-16-2012, 8:34 AM
@z
Gen2

vintagedude88
03-16-2012, 9:47 AM
Looks nice, too bad it says out of stock. :facepalm:

Riflegear has it in stock. Just google.:)
http://www.riflegear.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=1422&SEName=midwest-industries-ak-railed-scope-mount&variantid=2001

f308gt4
03-16-2012, 10:38 AM
I have what may be a dumb question:

What's the difference between these mounts and other mounts available for much cheaper.

If you go to the Carolina shooters. Supply website, they have several mounts in the $30-$50 range. I imagine they must be of decent quality, since CSS is a reputable supplier.

f308gt4
03-16-2012, 5:18 PM
Anyone???

The mounts I am talking about are these:

Side mount, quick release, $34.95
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-147/AK47-SIDE-LOW-PROFILE/Detail

Another side mount, $49.95
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-1075/AK47-Saiga-Scope-Mount/Detail

Beryl style mount, $39.95
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-336/Saiga-rifle-AK47-Beryl/Detail

What advantage do the $100+ mounts have over these?

I just got a Saiga 308, and am looking for a mount to add a scope.

unusedusername
03-16-2012, 11:26 PM
The UTG mounts (the first one you posted) are made a not-so-strong metal. They are also really heavy.

I have one if you want it, I won't use it.

I don't have any information on the other two you posted.

f308gt4
03-17-2012, 9:21 AM
The UTG mounts (the first one you posted) are made a not-so-strong metal. They are also really heavy.

I have one if you want it, I won't use it.

I don't have any information on the other two you posted.

Sure, I'll try it if you are willing to let it go. Thanks! I'll send you a PM.

zfields
03-17-2012, 9:39 AM
I had the UTG mount on my Saiga for a while. It was ok, held zero, but I did have to crank down the tension screw just about everytime I took it off for cleaning. Ended up selling it with the rifle.


I wouldnt get another one. Damn thing sits way to high

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Kryb9j29aec/TkWs5QI3M_I/AAAAAAAAAVo/c2kbuREypoI/s883/saiga1.jpg

vintagedude88
03-17-2012, 8:27 PM
Side mount, quick release, $34.95
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-147/AK47-SIDE-LOW-PROFILE/Detail

I have the UTG on my S308. Works great. Centers perfectly over bore centerline unlike many other mounts out there. I you're using a scope with high magnification, its fine. However, if you're using a red dot or a low profile scope, it can be a bit high.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=140280&stc=1&d=1332040937

Another side mount, $49.95
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-1075/AK47-Saiga-Scope-Mount/Detail

Not sure of this one.

Beryl style mount, $39.95
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-336/Saiga-rifle-AK47-Beryl/Detail
I had the SGM Tactical version of this mount. The only problem with this is that you lose the use of your irons.

What advantage do the $100+ mounts have over these?
I like the new Midwest rail because it sits low which is great for a low profile optic. They also have rail for a 30mm red dot that is also good.