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ns3v3n
04-12-2007, 1:32 AM
man it's tight, the flash hider i mean. the stag 2h upper is 16" barrel right? i'm going mmg/detachable mags. so how the hell do i get that damn thing off?

Jicko
04-12-2007, 2:27 AM
man it's tight, the flash hider i mean. the stag 2h upper is 16" barrel right? i'm going mmg/detachable mags. so how the hell do i get that damn thing off?

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blacklisted
04-12-2007, 2:37 AM
You're going to have to use a pipe wrench attached to a winch which is mounted on a Jeep. You will need 23.45 feet of steel cable. I can not stress the Jeep part enough. Just chuck the whole thing in a huge vice between two blocks of swiss cheese (including the Jeep, of course).

creampuff
04-12-2007, 2:45 AM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=51729

I posted this awhile ago, I will assume that the STAG does not permanently weld/pin their flash hiders onto their 16" uppers, as they would have no reason to do so.

Sydwaiz
04-12-2007, 7:07 AM
If it's not pinned or welded, heat is your friend. If it is pinned and welded, a mill is your friend.

PIRATE14
04-12-2007, 7:38 AM
man it's tight, the flash hider i mean. the stag 2h upper is 16" barrel right? i'm going mmg/detachable mags. so how the hell do i get that damn thing off?

Eat your wheaties........I routinely spin them off all the time in front of a live audience..........:D

Sydwaiz
04-12-2007, 9:12 AM
Shock and awe works too. If you have a brass mallet, smack the front of it a couple of times then try and remove it. Or put a wrench on it and smack the wrench but be warned you might roll the edges over. Threads have a tendency to take a set and need a little persuasion to loosen up the crap in them holding them tight.

Tweak338
04-12-2007, 9:15 AM
cardboard + small pipe wrench on barrel
Crecent wrench on the flash hider..

at least thats how i did it

ghost
04-12-2007, 5:43 PM
mine was b**** too!if you have your upper with your lower as a complete rifle put the buttstock on the floor and straddle the rifle between your knees,then you can wrench the flash hider off.it work for me,hopefully it works for you.:D

rorschach
04-12-2007, 6:25 PM
You're going to have to use a pipe wrench attached to a winch which is mounted on a Jeep. You will need 23.45 feet of steel cable. I can not stress the Jeep part enough. Just chuck the whole thing in a huge vice between two blocks of swiss cheese (including the Jeep, of course).

Be advised, that steel cable must be at least 3/8" IPS Fibercore, and hooks must be Grade 80. If you cant find a 23.45' long piece, you might be able to use a 7.15m length.

The Jeep SHOULD be a M38A1, but a CJ3A MAY work in a pinch.

Mmmm swiss cheese....

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=63429&group_ID=349&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=468&title=AR-15%2fM16+COMBINATION+WRENCH

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=12799&title=SCG+AR-15%2fM16+ACCU-GRIP+BARREL+VISE+JAWS

http://www.wiltontool.com/OurProducts/index.cfm?navPage=1&VID=3&CID=1151

ns3v3n
04-12-2007, 6:56 PM
thanks guys, yeah i'm still in my 10 days period... so i might just try to heat it up and try that cardboard method. hope it works. thanks for the info guys.

creampuff
04-12-2007, 9:56 PM
thanks guys, yeah i'm still in my 10 days period... so i might just try to heat it up and try that cardboard method. hope it works. thanks for the info guys.
With ten days to go, it won't take long to order a barrel vise from midway. They are pretty cheap ($17).
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=608967

gn3hz3ku1*
04-12-2007, 10:19 PM
just do it with a wrench. stag 2h is not perm fixed..

have someone hold the upper and then twist one way. u can twist the other way with the wrench..

some might not like this cuz it might damage the upper

Blue
04-12-2007, 10:22 PM
I've got an upper receiver action block that you could clamp it into a vise with and then spin it off with a wrench. If you're near San Jose and want to do it that way shoot me a PM.

creampuff
04-12-2007, 11:12 PM
I've got an upper receiver action block that you could clamp it into a vise with and then spin it off with a wrench. If you're near San Jose and want to do it that way shoot me a PM.

Be careful - if you apply too much torque using a receiver vise, it may end up throwing off the indexing of the barrel to receiver ( I actually don't know what I mean when I say that..but it is the warning I always see with regards to using a receiver vise :) ).

It would be safer to use a barrel vise, or make one from wood blocks.

To be honest, this may just be internet hocus pocus advise from me..because I have only removed the FH from a CMMG upper, which required a good deal of torque even with the vise blocks. I don't know how tightly attached the FH are on the STAG uppers.

draconianruler
04-12-2007, 11:34 PM
Use a cresent wrench and then make sure you are turning in the right direction. I never had issues before using a small cresent wrench to remove the FH. PM me if you still can't get it off.

RAMCHARGER
04-13-2007, 9:46 AM
So like what do you put in the barrel to cover the threads?

swinterk
04-13-2007, 10:53 AM
Technical Ted and Tactical Tim (are they related?) helped me out with these two
links in a prior thread:

AR15 1/2"X28TPI muzzle threading meet Schuster 1/2"X28TPI Thread Protector.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=469030


Kel tec sells a nice thread protector that works very well and is in no way a muzzle break or flash hider. It's part 402 in the link below:

http://www.kel-tec.com/su16caparts.html

ns3v3n
04-13-2007, 6:11 PM
So like what do you put in the barrel to cover the threads?

i got one of those spike's tactical fake can from lan world hehe. that will be my thread protector.

mltrading
04-13-2007, 6:32 PM
DO NOT clamp your upper receiver! Too risky to damage upper receiver.

Get a set of barrel vise or use some kind of wood blocks to fix your barel. Then use whatever wrench to loose the FH.

ns3v3n
04-15-2007, 5:21 PM
is there anyone near fremont that can help me remove my flash hider off of my stag upper? not having much of a success doing it today. .

ns3v3n
04-15-2007, 5:46 PM
nm! got it! yeah! thanks for all your help guys. i really appreicate. quick question, what can i use to touch up the blued surface on the ar? i have a little nic on there.

A324
04-15-2007, 6:31 PM
nm! got it! yeah! thanks for all your help guys. i really appreicate. quick question, what can i use to touch up the blued surface on the ar? i have a little nic on there.


Get a Birchwood/Casey SUPER BLACK touch-up pen in flat black from Midway or Brownelles. About $5 or $6. Great for touchups

http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p581109reg.jpg




The super black touch-up pen is an easy and effective way to touch-up nicks, scratches and worn areas of black anodized aluminum or black painted surfaces. The pen contains a fast drying, lead-free paint with superior adhesion and durability that helps fill in deep scratches or worn areas.

These special formulations are for use on highly polished and matte finished alloy gun receivers, trigger guards, scopes, binoculars, cameras, flashlights, fishing reels and other sporting accessories. Use like a marking pen with no mess-simply rub on with "chisel point" felt tip.

dthoss
04-15-2007, 7:33 PM
man it's tight, the flash hider i mean. the stag 2h upper is 16" barrel right? i'm going mmg/detachable mags. so how the hell do i get that damn thing off?

Take it to the Gunsmith / Armorer at Gunrunners in Duarte.
He did a great job on my AR-15's.

Technical Ted
04-15-2007, 7:42 PM
Take it to the Gunsmith / Armorer at Gunrunners in Duarte.
He did a great job on my AR-15's.
Get North of the Grapevine much? Somehow I think the drive from Fremont to Duarte would be a bit of a hassle. Like almost 400 miles worth :p

ghost
04-15-2007, 8:00 PM
Get North of the Grapevine much? Somehow I think the drive from Fremont to Duarte would be a bit of a hassle. Like almost 400 miles worth :p

it wouldnt be worth the gas and drama for 5 minutes of working the flash hider off.

xenophobe
04-15-2007, 8:22 PM
25 replies on how to remove a flash hider....

Hahaha... there has to be a joke in this somewhere....j

How many calgunners does it take....

ns3v3n
04-15-2007, 8:38 PM
does the color match well with the color of the upper? or is it going be distinct little black spots?


Get a Birchwood/Casey SUPER BLACK touch-up pen in flat black from Midway or Brownelles. About $5 or $6. Great for touchups

http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p581109reg.jpg




The super black touch-up pen is an easy and effective way to touch-up nicks, scratches and worn areas of black anodized aluminum or black painted surfaces. The pen contains a fast drying, lead-free paint with superior adhesion and durability that helps fill in deep scratches or worn areas.

These special formulations are for use on highly polished and matte finished alloy gun receivers, trigger guards, scopes, binoculars, cameras, flashlights, fishing reels and other sporting accessories. Use like a marking pen with no mess-simply rub on with "chisel point" felt tip.

A324
04-15-2007, 8:46 PM
does the color match well with the color of the upper? or is it going be distinct little black spots?


Ya, it's good stuff and easy to use for minor cosmetic repairs. No little black spots, blends nicely but you must allow it to dry.