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mikehaas
04-10-2007, 9:10 PM
NRA Members' Councils of California
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Condor Lead Ammo Ban (AB 821) Passes AWPW Committee

04/10/2007 - AB 821 has passed the Assembly Water, Parks and Wildlife Committee. The bill currently involves issuance of "coupons" to purchase special all-copper ammunition for affected areas. Many problems exist with the legislation, not the least of which is "How do we pay for printing and distribution of coupons?" Standby for information about the next committee assignment.

NRA requests that gun-owners thank those lawmakers that opposed this bill in committee. The list of lawmakers and other info is available at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?summary=ab821.1&year=2007

For information on other pending CA gun-related legislation:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml

Mike

DrjonesUSA
04-10-2007, 10:12 PM
Thanks for the info and a bump!

stator
04-11-2007, 6:17 AM
This anti-gun bill about lead and Condors is stupid.

Something like 26 out of the 28 dead condors died from lead poisioning. One of the dead condors lead was traced back to a specific shotshells from a specific gunshop. If these facts are true (and our politicians are taking these as true) then it is quite obvious that condors cannot survive with food scrapes from hunters.

THUS, BAN THE HUNTER = BAN THE CONDOR.

I bet this is why they are careful to sidestep the hunter with all of these coupon issues for copper shot. How ironic this issue.

mikehaas
04-11-2007, 2:43 PM
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Haas
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:40 AM
To: Assemblymember LaMalfa
Subject: Thank you for opposing the LEAD AMMO BAN, AB 821, in Water, Parks & Wildlife

Thank you for opposing the LEAD AMMO BAN, AB 821, in Water, Parks & Wildlife.

Mike Haas
[email address]
CA resident since 1977
From: "Assemblymember LaMalfa" <Assemblymember.LaMalfa@assembly.ca.gov>
To: "Mike Haas"
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: Thank you for opposing the LEAD AMMO BAN, AB 821, in Water, Parks & Wildlife

Thank you for the message and the support. I will continue to fight against this and any other legislation that limits hunting and access to firearms or ammunition.

Doug LaMalfa
Assemblyman, Second District
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Send your own thanks - just click on the name in the table at:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?summary=ab821.1&year=2007

Mike

6172crew
04-11-2007, 3:39 PM
Took me a minute to find it but this is the list of folks who voted in our favor.

Joel Anderson R 77 (916) 319-2077 (619) 441-2322
Tom Berryhill R 25 (916) 319-2025 (209) 576-6425
Doug La Malfa R 2 (916) 319-2002 (530) 223-6300
Bill Maze R 34 (916) 319-2034 (559) 636-3440
Nicole Parra D 30 (916) 319-2030 (661) 334-3745

Mike is there any after action reports that you could give to the Calguns members? I for one made the calls, was there not enough noise from our side? Are they going to listen to us even if we are making those calls? I know the dust is still settling but Id like to know what needs to be done to keep these from even making it to the next step. Does the NRA leadership do after action reports so we can work on ways to get a better response tp our side of things?

Sorry but I just cant see how we can be beat out by a few tree huggers that are worried about a bird, even if its not the bird its a ammo/firearms ban.

mikehaas
04-11-2007, 7:50 PM
Took me a minute to find it but this is the list of folks who voted in our favor.

Joel Anderson R 77 (916) 319-2077 (619) 441-2322
Tom Berryhill R 25 (916) 319-2025 (209) 576-6425
Doug La Malfa R 2 (916) 319-2002 (530) 223-6300
Bill Maze R 34 (916) 319-2034 (559) 636-3440
Nicole Parra D 30 (916) 319-2030 (661) 334-3745

Mike is there any after action reports that you could give to the Calguns members? I for one made the calls, was there not enough noise from our side? Are they going to listen to us even if we are making those calls? I know the dust is still settling but Id like to know what needs to be done to keep these from even making it to the next step. Does the NRA leadership do after action reports so we can work on ways to get a better response tp our side of things?

Sorry but I just cant see how we can be beat out by a few tree huggers that are worried about a bird, even if its not the bird its a ammo/firearms ban.
It's only the first committee. Best thing we can do is get those ONE-CLICKs going, and call/email/write/fax the members of the Assembly Appropriations Commitee:
http://calnra.com/legs/asmapprops.shtml

Not many have sent ONE-CLICKs since I posted it this afternoon - we simply need to get more actually doing it. That and calling, faxing, writing, etc. Most of us aren't, I can tell you that. Gun-owners that spend hours on forums but don't take the time to contact the lawmakers - they really aren't helping the cause all that much.

We need to hammer them on NRA's talking points as well as the costs associated with the printing & distribution of the special-ammo coupons. It's the Appropriations Committee, right? They want DFG to absorb the cost, but DFG doesn't have the same opinion. California has more important thing to spend it's money on, etc.

Mike

PS. I didn't copy & paste the table like that because on the original page (the one I link to), the names link to their email addresses and there are links to the lawmakers websites and district info.

chris
04-11-2007, 8:14 PM
jeezzz people get off your butts and hammer these guys. i only sned e-mail and i will keep doing so. it's not much but more than some gun owners. last year we kicked their butt we need to do it again!!!!!!!

6172crew
04-11-2007, 8:41 PM
jeezzz people get off your butts and hammer these guys. i only sned e-mail and i will keep doing so. it's not much but more than some gun owners. last year we kicked their butt we need to do it again!!!!!!!

If we had a few of our offtopic guys helping out we might be in better shape.

For the amount of traffic on CalGuns you would think everyone here could at least send a email or one-click but throwing sticks at one another seems to take priority when its not a all out ban on firearms.

We had a pretty good deal last year but Im guessing everyone got a OLL so nothing to worry about until they try to list them.:rolleyes:

Sorry guys for those sending off the one-clicks I dont mean to sound like an arse but they are right when they say gun owners just dont vote.

otteray
04-12-2007, 3:56 PM
Is there any way to find out how many one-clicks have been sent?

6172crew
04-12-2007, 7:27 PM
Id like to know myself but Im sure putting out that type of info isnt cool.

Im just hoping we can start taking back the momentum the gun grabers have but it isnt a one man job and the NRA leadership cant do it themselves.. :cool:

Nahuatl
04-16-2007, 4:48 PM
Is it true the military is switching to lead-free ammo in 2008? I heard this from one of my favorite rumor-mongers this morning. He's right about half the time, which is amazingly high by internet standards.

grammaton76
04-16-2007, 4:49 PM
Future ammo will be depleted uranium, propelled by vespene gas.

...well, actually it won't. :)

Your rumor guy's story seems pretty far out there... I couldn't imagine the military making that big a switch inside of that short a timeframe.

xrMike
04-16-2007, 6:52 PM
Is it true the military is switching to lead-free ammo in 2008?Why would they do that? Are there condors in Iraq?

AW-FANATIC
04-16-2007, 7:09 PM
I saw something on the history channel the other day talking about ammo. In it they had a military guy talking about how they are planning on going to a lead free frangible ammo by 2008. I cant remember if they said it would be for all purposes or just for training though.

Dont Tread on Me
04-16-2007, 7:51 PM
one-click sent.