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Tripper
03-10-2012, 10:40 AM
I'm curious of how others would proceed under certain condition

Situation
you are carrying, having no intention of going to a bar or anything that you would have otherwise thought you may not be able to carry.
now, you enter a place, then after a secondary entry (that you cannot see what the funnel point is caused by) entry you are suddenly presented with a metal detector, or everyone is being wanded. being not able to see the metal detector or security prior to being literally between them.

what do you do?

It just seems kind of obvious to me to turn around at such a point.
the best I could come up with was, suggesting I need to go put my knife in my car.

JeepsRcool
03-10-2012, 10:45 AM
Its a private business the most they can do is ask you to leave or go put it in the car. I have been to bars with pat downs and metal detectors, I tell them I have a knife before they find it and they say to just go put it in the car.
As a side note, if it is legal to carry there I would ask them what they are looking for, IE if they have no signs and it would otherwise be legal to carry there. If they tell me no weapons I would say thanks and I will take my business elsewhere.

Tripper
03-10-2012, 10:56 AM
I dont particularly agree with the "If they dont allow weapons, i take my business elsewhere" in this case, because it IS being applied to everyone, meaning, everyone is going through the detector or wand, so, I feel that the criminals are not carrying either. No diff than an airport, everyone is subject to the metal detector.

my concern is startling them unnecessarily or bringing attention to myself.

it does seem having the knife is the best bet for 'redirection'

wildhawker
03-10-2012, 12:51 PM
Is TSA doing the screening? :whistling:

Connor P Price
03-10-2012, 12:59 PM
Is TSA doing the screening? :whistling:

Now THAT would make it a party!

Tripper
03-10-2012, 12:59 PM
no, its not an airport, or bus or train, or other mode of public transport
lol

there are simply so many time, you just dont know when 'screening' is going to occur
we always see the questions as to
'can you ccw at xyz sports stadium', 'johnny z concert', 'san diego zoo' 'garlic festival' or whatever, sometimes you just dont know, and wont really know till you find yourself faced with a metal detector

wildhawker
03-10-2012, 1:06 PM
It was a joke.

Tripper
03-10-2012, 1:10 PM
no it wasnt

Tripper
03-10-2012, 1:14 PM
really, i know it was
but it still a good question, as thats the only real places a person would know would be 'no guns allowed'

wayneinFL
03-10-2012, 3:05 PM
Usually when I come upon an unexpected search, I'll say I have to go put my pocketknife in the car. If it's someplace that's going to ask for ID or money, I'll say I left my wallet in the car.

They once had a drug test at work. I was first in line. I had no idea they were going to have me empty my pockets on the table in break room in front of everybody. I said, "I'm not going to just leave my wallet sitting out here on the table for someone to steal! I'm going to lock it up in my car." They tried to assure me it was safe, and I walked out with an air of indignation. My coworkers were all snickering because they knew the real reason I waked out.

A couple times I've actually wandered into a sterile area by mistake, not knowing they had security and without seeing any signs posting a gun-free zone.

Once was at the Virginia State Assembly building. I wasn't carrying, except for a pocketknife. I went in, wandered around the place for a half hour or so, then walked up behind a metal detector. I asked security about it. They asked where I came in. I told them which door, and I asked if they wanted me to go through the metal detector. She looked at another guard, and they shrugged and looked at each other. I said, "I should be fine, I left my gun in the car." She said, "you've already been all over the building, go ahead."

Another time was at a call center in FL years ago. I was escorted in a back entrance and worked several hours. Went looking for a restroom and walked up behind the armed security, metal detector, and x-ray machine. I walked back in, found the restroom and continued working.

Tripper
03-10-2012, 3:18 PM
seems having a knife covers things pretty good

Paladin
03-10-2012, 6:35 PM
Moderators: this thread probably belongs in the LTC Discussion subforum.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=179

Lives_In_Fresno
03-10-2012, 8:38 PM
seems having a knife covers things pretty good

If you are carrying (a firearm), you might also want to decide whether you really want to leave it in the car.

I would not leave mine in my car here, since people break into and steal cars here routinely...

kaligaran
03-11-2012, 1:06 AM
It sounds like the 'I left my wallet in the car' would work in every situation except the airport (which I have seen signs at airports saying that once in line for the detectors, you are not allowed to step out of line... which may not even be enforced).
Even if you don't plan on returning to the venue once you realize they require a screening.

Kauf
03-11-2012, 1:30 PM
It sounds like the 'I left my wallet in the car' would work in every situation except the airport (which I have seen signs at airports saying that once in line for the detectors, you are not allowed to step out of line... which may not even be enforced).
Even if you don't plan on returning to the venue once you realize they require a screening.

Yes but you should have the common sense to know not to carry at an airport. I get why people carry and I'm hoping to one day be one of them, but there are NOOOOO airports that allow you to carry. You should never come into a situation where you "forget" airports don't allow carrying.

Tripper
03-11-2012, 1:33 PM
Moderators: this thread probably belongs in the LTC Discussion subforum.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=179

Paladin, that was my first attempt but it said I don't have rights

Tripper
03-11-2012, 1:38 PM
If you are carrying (a firearm), you might also want to decide whether you really want to leave it in the car.

I would not leave mine in my car here, since people break into and steal cars here routinely...

They'd have to take my vehicle to get my gun out of it,
It is too difficult to do so without being noticed and would be very time consuming, so someone would be better off taking the vehicle elsewhere
Most common, run if the mill, break window, or slimjim type thieves don't know how to Hotwire a modern car

kaligaran
03-13-2012, 12:26 AM
Yes but you should have the common sense to know not to carry at an airport. I get why people carry and I'm hoping to one day be one of them, but there are NOOOOO airports that allow you to carry. You should never come into a situation where you "forget" airports don't allow carrying.

All I meant by mentioning airports is that it's the only place that getting out of a metal detector line is a problem. I'm hopeful that anyone with a ccw would know not to carry in an airport .

wildhawker
03-13-2012, 12:36 AM
All I meant by mentioning airports is that it's the only place that getting out of a metal detector line is a problem. I'm hopeful that anyone with a ccw would know not to carry in an airport .

Carry in a secure area of an airport in an entirely different thing than carry at or inside a non-secure area of an airport.

-Brandon

SilverTauron
03-13-2012, 6:30 AM
I've been in this situation before,although not with a metal detector per se.
Visited a rock concert and spotted some burly Samoan guy frisking people at the door.Not wanting problems ,I pull out my phone and pretend to make a call as I move quickly to my car.To all who care to see,I'm just another concert fan with an emergency to handle.When Joe Bystander sees a man running with a phone in his ear the last idea will be that it has to do with a firearm.

Lives_In_Fresno
03-13-2012, 7:40 AM
Carry in a secure area of an airport in an entirely different thing than carry at or inside a non-secure area of an airport.

-Brandon

Agreed. In fact, I have had no problem in unsecure portions of airports.

kaligaran
03-13-2012, 5:00 PM
Carry in a secure area of an airport in an entirely different thing than carry at or inside a non-secure area of an airport.

-Brandon

Perhaps I shouldn't post from my phone at 1:30 in the morning.
Yes, my post was in response to talking about the metal detectors, which is a secure area.