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mag360
03-07-2012, 11:05 PM
Where should I start if I'm interested in one. Read all about the LMT .308 MWS that the brits selected for their sniper program, and the Knights Armament M110 for the U.S. and decided I really want one. (definitely not the M110 due to $)

What about just buying a real nice upper and putting it on a .308 lower (assuming the pattern matches), would that be just as good?

Also, anybody know if the LMT .308 MWS is in stock from a calguns vendor by chance, have some cash burning a hole. Either I get a rifle or buy some platinum and stick it in the bank.

Any love for bullpups? like the kel tec RFB or desert tactical?

nikonuser
03-08-2012, 7:37 AM
Larue OBR .308 would be a good choice.
http://kitup.military.com/2011/05/snipers-like-la-rue-objective-battle-rifle.html

johncmng
03-08-2012, 8:09 AM
GAP 10 by Georgia Precision is a very fine rifle. Go to Snipershide and do a search. May have to wait a bit tho.

slopoke
03-08-2012, 8:13 AM
If you have the money, a LWRC R.E.P.R is something to consider.

shamu415
03-08-2012, 8:13 AM
The lwrc repr, GAP precision, dpms sass

PolishMike
03-08-2012, 8:15 AM
The lwrc repr, GAP precision, dpms sass

DPMS Sass in the same sentence? hah

Precision:
LMT w/ CL or SS barrel
Larue OBR
Knights M110

Those are the proven ones.

You will notice that none of these brands sell lowers/uppers separately. I think the only quality 308 brand that does is Noveske.

I doubt you will find an MWS in stock. They are 16-20 weeks at the moment.

AVID HUNTER
03-08-2012, 9:07 AM
Just got a LWRC REPR with the spiraled barrel and love it. Still need to put more rounds through it, but so far so good.

evol ways
03-08-2012, 10:13 AM
LMT MWS. Can't wait to get mine! Now need to find a good deal on a NightForce

Hoop
03-08-2012, 11:21 AM
Read all about the LMT .308 MWS that the brits selected for their sniper program

More of a designated marksman rifle not a sniper rifle.

As far as purchasing an upper or building your own yes you can and it will be accurate if you use good parts and assemble it properly. So I guess it depends on how much you want to spend, how long you want to wait, whether or not you need the unique features some of these rifles offer (POF LWRC=piston, LMT=barrel swap) and how confident you are in your mechanical abilities.

sffred
03-08-2012, 11:42 AM
Noveske N6 upper > LMT MWS > KA M110

HK Dave
03-08-2012, 11:52 AM
Larue OBR = GAP 10 > Noveske N6 > LMT MWS > KA M110 > LWRC REPR

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cabinetguy
03-08-2012, 12:27 PM
check the private firearms section, i have seen one floating around in there, as well as a repr. You can build a very accurate ar-10 or lr-308 platform rifle for less, I built mine for $1400 minus optics, but if I had the money I would not hesitate to buy a mws, repr, gap-10 or similar rifle, most likely the mws due to its modularity. The knights armory has an inflated cost due to their gov contracts, they dont feel the need for the civilian market.

thrillhouse700
03-08-2012, 1:18 PM
I just got my Ma-Ten running with no flaws. Hoping to get my hands on a rifle rest do a solid zero and then start actually trying to hit stuff instead of messing around. I am still learning about longer range shooting but my buddy is a better shot than me and at 100yds he was shooting holes on top of each other.

alfred1222
03-08-2012, 1:21 PM
Go with a REPR

Caseless
03-08-2012, 3:26 PM
Any love for bullpups? like the kel tec RFB or desert tactical?

Sure, lots of love for them. However, DT only makes bolt action bullpups.
RFBs are currently only available in 18-inch barrel carbine form. They are known to be 2 MOA on average. Kel-Tec hasn't announced when they will release the "target" adjustable trigger pack. Don't hold your breath for the upcoming 24-inch barrel RFB, either. Probably late 2013 before you can order one.

Larue is a safe bet according to most reports.

GoBig
03-08-2012, 3:41 PM
I have a POF in 308...it's been a great rifle.

BigNick
03-08-2012, 4:27 PM
My vote and my money went to Noveske.

Bete Noire
03-08-2012, 6:03 PM
I've got a 16" OBR. US Optics glass. It is an amazing rifle.

romeo26
03-08-2012, 8:32 PM
there is a mws at my local turners!

Jpach
03-08-2012, 9:35 PM
More of a designated marksman rifle not a sniper rifle.

As far as purchasing an upper or building your own yes you can and it will be accurate if you use good parts and assemble it properly. So I guess it depends on how much you want to spend, how long you want to wait, whether or not you need the unique features some of these rifles offer (POF LWRC=piston, LMT=barrel swap) and how confident you are in your mechanical abilities.

Most .308 ARs out there are pretty damn precise, so that isn't all that hard to come by. Since that is already taken care of by a quality barrel, what concerns me is reliability. I have seen many a .308 ARs that are quite finnicky, but when they work they shoot very well.

The LMT 308 is about as reliable as it gets, and it even beat the SCAR-H and HK-417 in the British reliability tests.



OP, do the right thing and get an LMT. If not, get an OBR.

I got my LMT from The Kentucky Gun Co for a good price, and it seems they have the best price out there nowadays at $2500. Give em a call.

SFgiants105
03-08-2012, 9:40 PM
I was in the WTB section for a .308 AR (I am looking for a POF though), and got an offer from Sharpasacrayon (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/member.php?u=29710).

I believe he is trying to sell his LMT .308 for somewhere between $2500 and $2750. Shoot him a PM if you still want the LMT.

HK Dave
03-08-2012, 9:55 PM
Once I scrounge up enough pennies, i'll be getting an LMT 308 to accompany my Larue OBR.

Safra460
03-08-2012, 11:46 PM
JP makes a very nice 308. It is the LRP07 and is running a side charging handle.
Very accurate and their handgun looks good too.

louscamaro91
03-09-2012, 4:02 AM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Armalite?
I have quite a few so I'm biased. Look at the National Match or Super SASS from Armalite. Awesome guns, mags are super reliable. Obviously as of now you would needs to purchase the uppers from Armalite and a different lower manufacture(I.E. Noveske, Aero Precision)

mls343
03-09-2012, 4:12 AM
Are you looking for only AR configurations for your .308 semi auto rifle?

If not, then there is the M1A. Some may not consider this option precision, although I happen to think they shoot real well.

Just another thing to consider...

Bete Noire
03-09-2012, 4:58 AM
I would recommend staying with the DPMS pattern guns that use SR25 mags instead of AR10 pattern guns that use Armalite mags. SR25 mags are everywhere and cheap compared to AR10 mags.

The Virus
03-09-2012, 5:33 AM
JP LRP-07 best you can buy

ZX-10R
03-09-2012, 5:36 AM
M700 with magazine mod and JAE stock will whup all these rifles listed in this thread.

Go that route.

motorwerks
03-09-2012, 8:52 AM
I have seen many a .308 ARs that are quite finnicky, but when they work they shoot very well.


I hear this a lot, and maybe I have just been lucky, but mine eats every single garbage (surplus that was linked together), or really nice round I've fed it. I'm close to 400 (would be much more if .308 were cheaper) with out 1 FTF or FTE.

I built on a Tactical machining lower with a dpms upper/BCG, Blackhole weaponry 18 inch barrel, and Geissele trigger its been REALLY accurate, much more so then I am. The plan is to take it to 800 and maybe 1000 at some point but thats going to be after some MUCH better glass, it would be really hard with m 10X

Samtech79
03-09-2012, 12:24 PM
Might look into an FNAR. Mine is easily the most accurate rifle I've even shot. Its a beast to clean but the performance is amazing. Feed it good ammo and you'll get board shooting through the same hole... Jk, it is super accurate though. More acurite than I am but I've managed a couple of dime size groups at 100 yards.

mag360
03-17-2012, 8:49 AM
I would recommend staying with the DPMS pattern guns that use SR25 mags instead of AR10 pattern guns that use Armalite mags. SR25 mags are everywhere and cheap compared to AR10 mags.

What are the best quality DPMS pattern guns?

Hoop
03-17-2012, 11:37 AM
Since that is already taken care of by a quality barrel, what concerns me is reliability. I have seen many a .308 ARs that are quite finnicky, but when they work they shoot very well.


Me too usually due to the way the barrel is chambered or out-of-spec receivers. Drop-in, check headspace against your bolt and go shooting is okay but having a barrel chambered to your bolt by a good smith is best.

Hoop
03-17-2012, 11:39 AM
What are the best quality DPMS pattern guns?

JP, Laure, LMT, GAP, Mega MA-TEN w/custom barrel, there are also smaller shops assembling custom rifles, lots of options out there.

elsolo
03-17-2012, 12:11 PM
Worrying too much about this brand vs. that brand rifle is a moot point for 99.9% of target shooters.

Spend the budget on a better scope and work up a nice load recipe for your particular rifle.

If you buy ammo rather than reload it, you'll never get the accuracy potential of ANY of these rifles.

CrysisMonkey
03-17-2012, 8:31 PM
DPMS Sass in the same sentence? hah

Precision:
LMT w/ CL or SS barrel
Larue OBR
Knights M110

Those are the proven ones.

You will notice that none of these brands sell lowers/uppers separately. I think the only quality 308 brand that does is Noveske.

I doubt you will find an MWS in stock. They are 16-20 weeks at the moment.


JP sells just the upper, and I think they will even build your upper. I built my LR-308 with a JP 22inch barrel. Not a good gun for door kicking, but it is more acuate on the long shots.

In many cases all you may have to do is call the manufacturer or reseller and see if you can order just the upper.

CrysisMonkey
03-17-2012, 8:34 PM
What are the best quality DPMS pattern guns?

I have a Tactical Machine TM-10 lower. Based on the DPMS lower. Excellent quality, and reasonably priced.