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NRai2001
03-04-2012, 2:28 PM
I m currently in love with the Kel Tec 2000, just discovered it hahaha.. I m in the Modesto, Ca area, is there any store or dealer that has these for sale or can aquire them? What is there current Ca status? I dont understand how AR15 and AK style rifles are ok but a 9mm carbine is not??

Scratch705
03-04-2012, 2:31 PM
all you need is a bullet button, i think the OAL meets the requirements but don't quote me on that.

JB-Norcal
03-04-2012, 2:53 PM
http://www.goldenstatetactical.com/asplkeltacsu.html
37.95 free shipping
or
DD's use to have them in stock CA compliant BB installed, give them a call
(716)937-7779

Dead*Reckoned
03-04-2012, 3:04 PM
It's overall length sits just shy of 30in at 29.5. The factory stock extension will cover that however, and it is a simple snap on part.

cwin
03-04-2012, 6:12 PM
Riflegear has some .40SW glock models in stock now for $379 and they are CA compliant.

dr_communist
03-04-2012, 6:22 PM
Great rifle. My 40s&w version has a bit of a kick to it. And comes factory 29.5 I had to get the snap on buttpad

Got mine from marksarmory.com

Gary13
03-05-2012, 10:55 AM
Alquist Arms in Turlock sells them, at least when they have them in stock. I am trying to buy one from them right now. I shot one a few weeks back and really want one. Good luck.

ScottsBad
03-05-2012, 1:26 PM
Yeah, they are cool. I've been wanting one in 9mm glock so I can use my glock magazines. If you wern't aware there are several models which use different types of mags. So pick the one that uses a magazine which is the same as a pistol you have or might want. I have had a very hard time finding one that uses the Glock mag.

I like that they fold in half... Really cool.

Richardr247
03-14-2012, 10:33 AM
I am also looking for a 9mm carbine. They are very hard to find. I've been looking for a
Kel Tec sub 2000, Hi point 995 ts, Thureon defense 9mm or even a rugar pc9 (those are all the 9mm carbines I know of) Also checked the places mentioned above but everyone is out of stock. Let me know if you find one of these in stock. Good luck

Grumpyoldretiredcop
03-14-2012, 10:38 AM
all you need is a bullet button, i think the OAL meets the requirements but don't quote me on that.

Or a grip wrap if you prefer a featureless configuration. Either way, as has already been mentioned, the buttstock extension is also required.

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/grumpyoldretiredcop/SUB2000/Mountinstallcompleteleftside.jpg

sdukeric
04-03-2012, 2:45 AM
Its not that hard to get one into California. Heres what I did.

1) Call up DD's ranch. If he does not have them in stock he will receive one and install the necessary bits that comply with CA. B.S.

2) Find one online and ship it directly to DD's ranch. He will then ship it back out to your FFL in Ca.

It's just a bit of a wait before you can shoot the thing..but it's worth it.

Marks Armory will do the same thing. But he usually doesn't have the stock extension.
DD's has the bullet button and extension in stock.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l140/gixxeric/IMAG0282.jpg

sdukeric
04-03-2012, 2:48 AM
FYI someone in socal is looking to trade a 9mm sub2000 for a 1911 of some sort.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=554194&highlight=sub2000

PEZHEAD265
04-03-2012, 8:18 AM
Or a grip wrap if you prefer a featureless configuration. Either way, as has already been mentioned, the buttstock extension is also required.

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/grumpyoldretiredcop/SUB2000/Mountinstallcompleteleftside.jpg

It looks like you can get your thumb round the back of the grip.If you can will that cause problems??Is the reason to go featureless is so you can shoot legal high cap mags???

KandyRedCoi
04-03-2012, 9:25 AM
doesnt look like a normal person can get his/her thumb around that paddle

and you go featureless not just for the mag capacity but also that fact that you dont have to use a BB...cus they suck LOL

Grumpyoldretiredcop
04-03-2012, 6:06 PM
It looks like you can get your thumb round the back of the grip.If you can will that cause problems??Is the reason to go featureless is so you can shoot legal high cap mags???

If you can get your thumb around that grip wrap so that you can fire the weapon with the web of your thumb BELOW the top of the trigger, you don't have normal human hands. :eek: If you were that sort of shapeshifter/alien/genetically modified creature, yes that would be a problem. For us normal humans, not so much. :43:

Yes, the reason for the grip wrap vs. a magazine lock is so that I can use the box full of Glock 22 standard magazines that I have in this carbine and so that I can use the standard magazine release. The Sovereign People's Republic requires that one renounce the use of opposable thumbs in order to do so. I believe that is in order to drag the user down to the level of most members of the California Legislature... (this :p for Sacramento!)

Jungleboxx
04-09-2012, 6:09 PM
So I don't mean to hijack the thread and I don't want a general caliber verse caliber, would you rather be hit by a pebble or a brick size comparison of these rounds. The S2000 is offered in .40SW and 9 Para.

Of these two calibers which one has better ballistics out of the 16" barrel?

I can't find to seem the different caliber specs for the sub 2000, just a generalized muzzle velocity for the 9mm.

Thanks

Ike Arumba
04-09-2012, 11:14 PM
I extracted some info from Ballistics By The Inch for the charts you can see at http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15087320&postcount=36 . By that reckoning, the 9mm gained around 16% in velocity and 34% in energy when going from a 4-inch to a 16-inch barrel. For the .40 S&W, the gain was about 18% in velocity and 39% in energy.

Jungleboxx
04-10-2012, 7:24 AM
I extracted some info from Ballistics By The Inch for the charts you can see at http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15087320&postcount=36 . By that reckoning, the 9mm gained around 16% in velocity and 34% in energy when going from a 4-inch to a 16-inch barrel. For the .40 S&W, the gain was about 18% in velocity and 39% in energy.

Page bookmarked, thanks for the info!